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Possible Child Protection Issue in Abusive Relationship - Please Advise

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NomRienDeRien · 14/06/2018 19:01

I have an old school friend with one DS who has found herself in yet another abusive relationship. Her current partner has been both financially and emotionally abusive - and fits the descriptor of "coercive control" to a tee.

Like many victims of abuse, she is caught in a FOG (fear, obligation, guilt) situation. She has made small moves to leave, but each time she is persuaded not to - either because he love-bombs her, or because she finds he has taken measures to ensure she doesn't have enough money to do so.

Over the years, I have supported her time and again; listened to her; pointed her in the direction of people and organisations she can contact. Over the years, she has found herself overwhelmed by what needs to be done to leave - and the repercussions of leaving - and goes back to him.

If it were just her, I would have stepped back a long time ago. However, she has a DS (9) who has a learning disability, who is now bearing the brunt of her partner's rage. He 'accidentally on purpose' knocks him over; he has grabbed him to the point where he yelps; he has pushed his chair violently with him sitting in it. All the while my friend seems to be increasingly disempowered: she can see what her partner is doing, but I don't believe she has the psychological means to extricate herself or her child. It is taking a toll on her DS's mental wellbeing, to the point where he is running away, shutting down, resorting to compulsive behaviours.

My friend is not listening to reason - not even when I tell her that her child's health and wellbeing are at severe risk.

I am angry, and I feel that someone needs to bloody advocate for him, even if she cannot or will not. But I have no idea what I might unleash if I were to take any steps.

Which is why I'm turning to the wisdom of MN. What thoughts do you have as to options that are available? I have considered approaching her DS's school (who are probably aware that all is not well at home, even if they don't have details), who are usually very sensitive and efficient in handling difficult situations. I have also considered contacting SS. I have a feeling that doing the former would lead to the latter anyway.

However:

My friend has little to no support - either practically or financially; her DS's father is also abusive, and utterly useless, and wants little to no involvement in his son's life, and so there is no-one who is either capable or healthy enough to step in and take charge; and, with her DS's learning disabilities, I am hugely concerned that he may be put into a system that is equally damaging for him.

Any and all thoughts are welcome and much appreciated.

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BifsWif · 14/06/2018 19:03

You need to report this.

Call the MASH hub now, if SS get involved it is likely your friend will be given a lot of support; for herself and her son.

You can’t turn a blind eye to this because you think that a hypothetical situation might not be any better. Please call them.

littleducks · 14/06/2018 19:05

I would phone SS and explain

Jonbb · 14/06/2018 19:08

You need to speak to SS but be aware if she remains with this man, he will be removed from her care, possibly with no notice as SS will seek to safeguard the child immediately. Please do it.

NomRienDeRien · 14/06/2018 19:09

Thank you, both.

Is there any objective merit in giving her an ultimatum before approaching SS/MASH? I am quite prepared for our friendship to crash and burn; it's not the important factor here.

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NomRienDeRien · 14/06/2018 19:09

Thank you, Jonbb.

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BifsWif · 14/06/2018 19:12

No, I wouldn’t.

It sounds like she’s firmly under this mans control, so I doubt approaching her beforehand would make a difference. It may even make her flee with her partner and son.

Stillme1 · 14/06/2018 19:16

I have read this with some interest for a good reason. I am not aware of what MASH is. Could someone please advise me?

BifsWif · 14/06/2018 19:18

Multi agency safeguarding hub.

Basically a referral point do SS, you can call or contact them online.

BifsWif · 14/06/2018 19:19

For SS*

Costacoffeeplease · 14/06/2018 19:20

No don’t say anything, just pick the phone up

NomRienDeRien · 14/06/2018 19:23

Thank you so much, everyone. Unanimous so far, and in line with my gut feel in spite of the reservations of others I have spoken to in RL.

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itbemay · 14/06/2018 19:26

What the others have said. Flowers speak to school safeguarding if you’re unsure and they will guide you.

Chottie · 14/06/2018 19:28

Do not say anything to this man.

Just pick up the phone ring your local authority safeguarding team. The 24 hour telephone number will be on the website.

BifsWif · 14/06/2018 19:56

Child protection is everybody’s responsibility. I know it’s hard but please do something for that little boy.

NomRienDeRien · 14/06/2018 20:01

Don't worry - I will, BifsWif.

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Cupoteap · 14/06/2018 20:20

Don't tell her first, do it for him. I left my ex I got the strength from knowing if I didn't I would ha e to explain it to my dcin years to come

NomRienDeRien · 14/06/2018 20:26

Thank you for telling me that, Cupoteap

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123bananas · 14/06/2018 20:28

She is an adult making choices, yes she is being abused, but she has a choice.

This poor child is extremely vulnerable, they do not have a choice. You need to put their best interests first before something awful happens. It will escalate and the worst case scenrio doesn't bear thinking about.

You must report it and do not say anything to her. If she mentions it to her partner acting in FOG the child will be more at risk.

BifsWif · 14/06/2018 20:32

Not an easy decision, but he’s lucky to have someone looking out for him. Flowers

MumofBoysx2 · 14/06/2018 20:34

I have this awful feeling this man's behaviour may escalate and then what for that poor little boy. Report right now!

Wishingiwaslucky47 · 14/06/2018 20:35

I work with vulnerable children and you absolutely MUST contact social services, infact contact both the school and social services.

Do not give any indication to your friend it was you who contacted them. Don’t alert your friend that you will contact them if she doesn’t sort everything out, as she will just alienate you from her family.

Social services will only remove him from home as a last resort.

I beg of you please please please don’t just leave this, please contact social services straight away.

NomRienDeRien · 14/06/2018 21:33

Thank you, everyone - I hear you all. I am speaking to the school tomorrow, and will be calling social services after that. I will not be telling my friend anything. I, too, am of the opinion that she is so far enmeshed that it's very possible she would tell her partner.

I really, really appreciate all of your posts in support Flowers

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Stillme1 · 14/06/2018 21:35

Thanks for info re Multi Agency Safeguarding Hub. I take it MASH is part of SS then.

PharrellsEagleTattoo · 14/06/2018 21:47

I don’t have any advice but I wanted to say that I was once in that little boy’s shoes and I wish so much that somebody had done something to help me.

Secondly, I’ve never forgiven my mother for not protecting me. The psychological damage has fucked up my whole life. Your friend may be in a vulnerable position but she is still putting her relationship before her son’s Wellbeing. That’s a choice.

Please report ASAP.

NomRienDeRien · 14/06/2018 21:57

Pharrells - The damage wrought on this boy's life through his parents' poor choices is already apparent enough to be shocking to me. Unfortunately, there's a level of blindness involved, inasmuch as all his 'problems' are being attributed to a learning disability, when it feels clear that the cause of many of them are quite probably due to his experiences as a child. I'm not sure some of the damage can be undone, tbh. But that's not a reason not to do something.

Thank you for sharing your story; I'm sorry you've been through what you have. For what it's worth, I wish someone had spoken up for me, too. Years and years, and years of therapy have been my saving grace.

Reporting tomorrow.

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