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Got back with his wife, didn't tell me

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Namechangedforthistoo · 09/06/2018 17:01

I found out last night. Confirmed this morning. Nearly a year of telling me he loves me and wants to be with me. Telling me we are made for each other. I really thought we were. Then he gets back with her and doesn't even bother to end things with me first and the first I know of it is a fucking picture of the two of them. I'm so upset and so angry.

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gillybeanz · 09/06/2018 18:21

I also think his wife deserves to know.
What she decides to do is up to her.
Turn up at his house and ask where he's been, you've been missing him and he missed your 1st year anniversary Grin
Oh is this your ex wife and child visiting, how sweet. Grin

felldownarabbithole · 09/06/2018 18:29

Men can be dicks OP.

My DC father offered me sperm and another child - then moved in with someone before we even knew of her existence. She's never met them.

I did try and warn her but tbh that just looks bitter although I don't honestly care for him and she's decided not to listen.

You could warn the wife but she probably won't listen.

Just be grateful he's not your problem now and you're free to find someone better

Namechangedforthistoo · 09/06/2018 18:32

I have thought of contacting his wife but I really don't know what the right thing to do is. If they had been separated up until recently then the only thing he did wrong is get back with her without ending things with me first? Which is a wanker thing to do of course and I do really, really want to let her know what a wanker he is. I'm guessing she must know he's a bit of wanker already. He's a charmer though. It must all be an act but it fooled me and I'm not normally gullible, though I've only had one ltr before this so not a lot of experience. But yeah if they were really seperated up until now, then I don't want to risk stirring things. I also hate the thought of making someone else feel as shit and betrayed as I feel. And it would be a million times worse for her. I was a fantasy escape or something from his real life wasn't I? But to me he was my real life and I thought we'd go down the normal route, move in together and all that.

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PrizeOik · 09/06/2018 18:36

I don't know op, I'm still married and was still embroiled in drama with my ex when I met my dp. I was even still in the marital home. I told dp what this man told you - and I was honest. And I never wavered or even almost got back with my ex. I did move out and now a couple of years later I'm finally processing the separation and divorce.

I don't think you were being particularly gullible. It's normal to trust someone... He is the one who was 100% in the wrong!

PrizeOik · 09/06/2018 18:36

Legally processing my separation, I mean - I moved out ages ago and emotionally the processing occurred a while ago.

felldownarabbithole · 09/06/2018 18:44

Tbh OP if they have kids it's complicated and those kids come first hopefully.

I'd put him out of your mind (hard I know) and move on than waste more time on him or potentially have the kids on your conscience.

She will know what a wanker he is I'm sure. She may choose to be blind right now for the kids but she will know Thanks

Namechangedforthistoo · 09/06/2018 21:31

I'll try and put him out of my mind. I'm not going to say anything to his wife. I have a child too, a little younger than his. I was so careful at the start. I really believed him and now seeing it's all the same old script others have heard before. I just feel so stupid. Like everyone on this thread would have known and I'm an idiot and a bad person because he had a wife. But I really thought they were over.

The last few weeks when he started accusing me of cheating, he was so horrible. It was like he was a different person. He kept like picking out words I used...just normal words...and tearing them apart. He demanded to see my messages at one point to prove to him I hadn't cheated and when I showed him them he said I'd hidden things and deleted things. I never did though. I had nothing to hide.

Sorry I know this post is all over the place and I don't know if I'm making sense but he was horrible, and I actually said about ending things because of how he was being but then he was sorry and begged me not to leave him because he's going through a really hard time right now, and then everything seemed to go back to normal. Now this happens not long after all that and I don't think he's sorry for any of it. I'm wondering now did he really think I'd cheated or was that all some kind of guilt thing because he was actually getting back with his wife then. Maybe he was pushing me away. But if that's the case why did he beg me to stay with him when I said about ending things?

I know it will sink in eventually and I'll get over it. I thought that the future was going to be us, and now it's not. We talked about growing old together and everything. I know it was a lucky escape. I should try and stop thinking about it and questioning his motivations because I will never be happy with the answers. Sorry to anyone who reads this waffle.

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MonkeysAndPuzzles1 · 09/06/2018 23:16

You haven't done anything wrong OP Flowers he lied and you trusted him. So sorry this has happened to you.

lifebegins50 · 09/06/2018 23:36

He was projecting his guilt and accusing you of doing what he was.

I know its shocking when you realise that someone you trusted is just a liar...you will be wiser however and when you are over the shock you will reflect on the red flags.

Just be grateful you didn't commit further.

springydaff · 09/06/2018 23:44

Hang on, he's the shit here. Why would you not believe him? You're not an idiot, or stupid, or whatever.

I think this is going to take a while to process - it's not just the sudden end of what you thought was going to be a lifelong relationship, it's the horrible realisation you've been duped. I'm so sorry.

In time you'll realise you've had a lucky escape - but that will take a while. Don't let this colour future relationships eh - don't let him take your future happiness from you as well.

Take care Flowers

Mountainsoutofmolehills · 09/06/2018 23:48

I'd leave it, walk away, and block this MoFo from ever coming back into your life. Be firm.

Don't be hard on yourself. We live and learn. YOU DODGED A BULLET.

Being single is better. I love it.

Namechangedforthistoo · 10/06/2018 00:46

Being single is better. I love it

I hope so because I can't imagine ever wanting to be with anyone again.

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user1486956786 · 10/06/2018 02:25

I think in last few weeks he was definitely trying to make you the bad guy, give him a valid reason to leave and it would be your fault, not his!

Wow what an absolute dick. You'll never really know what was going on behind the scenes, never seperated, half separated, fully separated. You will probably go through a whole roller coaster of emotions, just try and keep busy and think a lucky escape. You are not stupid or an idiot.

MrsDilber · 10/06/2018 02:32

You might feel crap now but you had a lucky escape. You'll look back and be grateful you're not with him.

His poor wife has no idea??

SnowGoArea · 10/06/2018 02:45

In a year's time, when all the hurt and confusion has faded and your life has9 moved on to a totally different place, I can ASSURE you that you will look back on this and breathe a humongous sigh of relief at your narrow escape.

For right now while it feels so raw, FlowersCakeWine

Aria999 · 10/06/2018 04:53

I don't think it was stupid. You have to trust someone to be with them. You dodged a bullet there.

Kiwiinkits · 10/06/2018 05:17

What BubblingUp said

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 10/06/2018 05:43

He’s sounds really abusive on top of everything else. You have my sympathy that he lied to you but I also feel so sorry for his wife and kids. Imagine what they have to deal with having an abusive bastard like this in their home. Never let a man talk to you like that again. There are no excuses.

Namechangedforthistoo · 10/06/2018 13:09

MrsDilber I don't know if his wife knows but I think she might have because there were a couple of things he said that make me think she might have had suspicions at least...looking back now I was stupid to not realise but I thought he didn't want to hurt her feelings by showing off about a new relationship. I remember the first time I told somebody about me and him. I was really excited about us. I told him that I'd told this person and his reaction was "why did you tell him? It's our private business." I realise how stupid I was now but he's quite shy and I thought he just didn't want the attention as well as wanting to protect his wife's feelings. And it wasn't a complete secret. There were a few people who knew, like the friend who texted me yesterday when he saw the picture. But he was keen on keeping it quiet. I'm so stupid, I don't know how I could have been so blind to it.

I was talking to another friend for a long time last night. My friend said she has been worried about me being with him. Not because of his wife..she also was shocked at hearing about them being back together(or possibly always together). She was worried because she said my confidence had got so low. And the more I spoke to her I realised things, like how he had been putting me down a lot. This is before the cheating accusations started. One of the things he used to say was that I was too clever (seeing as I fell for him, obviously I'm not that clever). Once he said I'd never be able to find anyone else who would put up with me. One time I told him the reason I have PTSD, until then my counsellor was the only person who knew the details. I told him the story one night and his initial reaction was anger that this was the first he had heard about it. He wasn't sympathetic or supportive at all. I wasn't looking for sympathy...we had been talking about things and the counselling came up (he already knew I saw the counsellor and that it was because of PTSD) and so I told him about it, and then he got angry and turned kind of cold. I was really upset by his reaction and we spoke by text the next day and he said sorry and that he hadn't known what to say and that was why he reacted that way.

But there was more than that. He started saying I was copying him. It was stupid things. Really stupid, minor things, but he would say I had copied him by doing them when I honestly hadn't. My mind has gone blank, it was a late night last night talking to my friend, and I can't think of an example of something he said I'd copied him over, but at one point I remember thinking to myself "is this what it feels like to be bullied? Am I being bullied by my partner?" And I had never had this feeling before. And the picking up on words that I used and sort of tearing into me for using the wrong word, I mentioned that in my last post but thinking last night I realised that actually was happening long before the cheating accusations started up. Actually there were a couple of times he ignored me for a few days (wouldn't answer the phone, return texts or anything) and it would turn out to be because he was annoyed at something I had said. Nothing I had ever meant to be bad but he would take it badly. Things so insignificant that I can't remember them. I really don't go around accidentally offending people all the time... I don't think. I certainly don't say things to intentionally cause offence. I do have Asperger's and maybe am a little too blunt sometimes, but even when I would find out what it was I had done wrong, and thought really hard about how he might have seen it, I still could not understand why it annoyed him. And I definitely could not understand him giving me the "cold shoulder" treatment rather than saying what the problem was...I spent a lot of time googling about that and trying to learn how to manage it. He didn't speak to me for a nearly a week once because my auto-correct had changed a word to "Armenia". As usual I had no idea why he wasn't talking to me though I was getting used to him reacting that way. When he did speak to me again he brought up "Armenia"...I had no idea what he was talking about, had forgotten the autocorrect, and it was all because he thought I had actually sent him a text that was meant for an Armenian man. I don't even know anyone from Armenia. That was also before the cheating accusations started.

I am glad my friend told me she was worried about me. I sort of wish she'd said something before, but I can understand why she didn't and I probably wouldn't have listened anyway. Last night I realised it was like a repeat pattern, at the start he was so nice, he made me feel so special. Then the first time I saw the angry/moody/mean side to him it was a total shock. It was like a completely different person. When he apologised and blamed it on other life stresses I let it go and he would return to being really, really nice. Then slowly the put downs would start up, and it would build up to him being really horrible again. We'd end up having a big fight, he'd blame other things and eventually apologise. And repeat. I think it really did chip away at my confidence a bit...I hadn't realised it was bad enough for my friend to notice...I hadn't noticed it myself until she said.

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SnowGoArea · 10/06/2018 14:08

Wow, he did a number on you Sad. Even more reasons to be glad he's gone Flowers

It must feel really confusing that he could treat you like this (at least that's how I felt when something broadly similar happened to me, although it was my DH).

What I think I leaned is that men like this don't necessarily set out to be so sneaky and deceptive. However, if they are the sort of person who has a low threshold for lying, and they are also the sort of person that struggles to deny themselves anything (i.e they want something and they will make sure they have it) it all 'happens' rather easily. They do something small that wasn't great (flirt perhaps) and cover it up with lies because that's easiest, and it just spirals from there. They say things like "I never meant to hurt you", which is sort of true in that it wasn't their primary objective. But they completely miss that it was an obvious consequence from them being so selfish.

In the end they destroy their own happiness though - lies and dishonestly makes them paranoid, bitter and mean because they assume their loved ones have as much secrecy hidden below the surface as they do. I would imagine this is why he assumed you were cheating and was so weird about the Armenia thing etc.

Ultimately it doesn't matter why though. He's not a nice man and you're well shot. And you have a long list of red flags to keep an eye out for in future relationships!

Namechangedforthistoo · 10/06/2018 16:55

It must feel really confusing that he could treat you like this (at least that's how I felt when something broadly similar happened to me, although it was my DH).

@SnowGoArea I am sorry you had a similar thing with your DH, that must have been a lot harder Flowers. I have spent this year feeling confused by his behaviour anyway and then yesterday realising how little I meant to him and the uncertainty about his relationship with his wife I was very confused but today everything seems a lot less foggy.

I am glad I started this thread even though the responses at the start upset me. I am glad I spoke to my friend last night too. Because of his thing about our relationship being private etc, I had never shared much with anyone. Maybe I would have realised things sooner if I had. In fact I really did not talk much to anyone but him because (another obvious red flag thing I think now) he always seemed annoyed when I spent time with other people and it started to feel like it was easier to not see people than to deal with the fall out after.

I spoke to another friend today and she said I seemed chirpier than I have in ages. I had no idea how much he was getting to me or that it was so noticeable but today I feel like a weight has been lifted. I didn't know I would get over him so fast..I suppose I haven't properly yet...but all the things I am realising now, I don't know, I feel like I've woken up and it's a new day and things are starting to make sense. I have learned a lot from this "relationship" (feels like a joke to call it that now). One big thing I have learned is to not ever trust someone who makes me feel bad about having friends/communicating with other people.

I keep thinking about his wife though. He used to talk about her in a disrespectful way to me...I thought it was normal sort of post-break up anger but I asked him to stop doing it. I didn't recognise that how he spoke about her was the same as the way he was treating me. I'm sure he will be doing the same to her now and blaming her for his problems and taking things out on her. I'm even wondering if him telling me "she's probably seeing someone", was part of his weird jealously thing. Maybe our "relationship" was him getting back at her because of some imaginary affair she had or something else she did wrong in his head (maybe that idea is far fetched but I can really imagine him thinking and behaving that way). I hope so much that she gets rid of him. She really could do so much better. Even though when he brought her up it was always in a negative way I got the impression from things that he said that she was a strong person, bringing up their child and running her own successful business. I actually used to think that me and her would probably get on well because I liked the sound of her and he said their marriage breakdown was mutual so didn't think she'd have a problem with me in that sense. I assumed when me and my "ex" moved in together that we'd be seeing a lot of each other because of them sharing a child. Sorry I sound like a proper idiot there...I just really did think it was a real, normal relationship and I thought that's how things would be.

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MeMyShelfandIkea · 10/06/2018 17:11

Sorry you're hurting OP but like others have said you'll look back one day and be glad you dodged such a big bullet.

Did you ever visit his house? My now DH was still living in the marital home for the first few months we were together but I went to his house/met his ex quite quickly, plus DH was open about our relationship to friends, family, on FB etc.

Gemini69 · 10/06/2018 17:17

Sorry you're hurting Lady.. but it would appear you've had a very lucky escape.. be kind to yourself Flowers

Maybellissimo · 11/06/2018 18:55

You deserve better than this. You’ve really dodged a bullet.

Namechangedforthistoo · 11/06/2018 22:12

I feel like I have dodged a bullet and I'm actually amazed at myself right now because of how strongly I do not want to see him. Whenever he'd do the cold shoulder thing, I'd be in pieces the whole time . I'd replay our interactions in my head again and again, re-read messages, trying to work out what I'd done wrong. I've lost so much weight this year too. I lose my appetite when I'm stressed and his digs and the dishing out of the silent treatment stressed me a lot. I can see how bad he was for me now. At the same time a tiny part of me does want to hear from him. Not because I want to get back together, but I want him to show some sign of remorse over what he did. I don't expect him to though. Even when I confronted him the day I saw the picture, he acted like it was completely normal behaviour and I was weird for finding it strange...he made me feel like I was crazy a lot actually over this year. I really don't know why I put up with it. I've heard people talk about narcissism on here and I've seen people say it gets over used but I've been reading about it and it's weird how much it sounds like him. I'm not saying he has the full blown personality disorder but he definitely has a lot of the traits.

Anyway I guess it's all done and dusted now and I can see how bloody lucky I was that things turned out this way.

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