Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

How can I get DH to take on a bigger share of the workload? (Sorry it's long!)

67 replies

WoIsMe · 08/06/2018 12:34

My DH and I split the housework (cooking, cleaning, emptying bins, gardening etc.) pretty evenly between us but I do the rest of the household workload (dentist appointments, birthday parties, school activities, buying clothes for the kids, paying bills etc.) We have four DCs and it is a huge burden that I'm finding difficult, time-consuming and depressing.

Some time ago I told DH that I was going to stop buying birthday and Christmas cards and presents for his family members (parents, siblings, nephews and nieces) and he would have to start doing it again himself. He has managed this pretty well although a couple of presents have arrived a day or two after the birthday.

More recently I asked DH to take over the meal planning and food shopping. He drives past two supermarkets on his commute so it's easy for him to stop for something if we've run out, whereas I work from home so would have to make a special trip out since there isn't a shop within walking distance. I have been doing the bulk of the food shopping for years so I expected that it would take him a while to get to grips with it. However several months later our kids have been begging me to take over the shopping again because they're fed up of running out of biscuits, crisps, yogurts, fruit, bread etc.

I also asked DH to take over ordering and collecting one DC's prescription medicine. He only gets a 30-day supply and it's critical that he doesn't run out plus it's a class B medication so it takes up to a week to get a new supply. I write the number of days of remaining medicine on the calendar with a reminder at ten days to order more but DH keeps leaving it to the last minute. I spent a large portion of the last two days driving between hospital, GP and chemists trying to get an urgent prescription and find a chemist that had the medicine in stock.

So now I'm feeling that I need to take over the food shopping and ordering medication again because DH can't commit to doing it properly. When I look at all the other myriad tasks that I have to do I feel completely overwhelmed by it all. I feel that for every task I complete there are two more that aren't being done. I'm also finding it very difficult to put enough work hours in because of the sheer burden of it all.

My worry is that DH seems so incompetent with these types of tasks because they're just not that important to him. With the family birthdays then he's managing to do it because he gets thanks and attention from people. Whereas if one of the DCs won't eat breakfast because his preferred food has run out then it doesn't matter to DH. I really want to be able to pass some of the household tasks on to DH but it isn't worth it if he won't do them properly. We have had lots of issues in the past with unpaid bills and fines so eventually I ended up taking over most of these tasks. At the moment DH has a parking charge that he keeps forgetting to pay - it's already doubled and it's only going to increase the longer he leaves it.

Has anyone been in a similar situation and managed to persuade their partner to take on a bigger share of the workload... and do it properly?

OP posts:
FATEdestiny · 08/06/2018 20:04

WoIsMe. I have 4 children (aged 3-13) You do not need to tell me what your day looks like with a tone of "Look how busy I am". I'm less than impressed with that because it's what my life is.

Win shortie seeing that you:

  • have 4 school aged children
  • have from 9-3 ish at home, child free, every week day and this is when you run your business.

And critically...

Seem to be over-dramatosing your work load somewhat and/or need DH to pull his weight in the evenings/weekends.

So split the tasks that need to be done in the evenings/weekends through discussion so you have equal down time each over the week.

"Through discussion". Not "I asked DH to take over...". It's not you to dictate, just as it's not for your husband to dictate. Talk about it any work out together how to share the load.

FATEdestiny · 08/06/2018 20:05

"Win shortie"?!

... what I'm....

SoapOnARoap · 08/06/2018 20:13

Why don’t you work full time & DP work part time as a suggestion?

Neither of you are empathetic to each other’s situation.

And start online shopping ASAP.

gigi556 · 08/06/2018 20:16

I think OP was clarifying her daily schedule to show that it's not at though she has 2 full days off at home to get all this stuff done. Her difference in working hours is only because she's doing the school run. She is busy during more or less the same hours as her hubby except some of that time she's not being paid for what she's doing.

Tbh, I'm not surprised you want to off load more of this stuff OP. Sounds like a lot to do/organize around work and looking after the kids.

Millykitty · 08/06/2018 20:20

Honestly I would scale back what you are doing as you sound overwhelmed . Keep things basic.

For example the kids birthdays. 20 hours for each party! Wow. I would really scale this back and have a simple party with only a handful of kids. My 8 yo has been to about 8 birthday parties this year. His favourite was a play at the park after school with his best friends with popcorn and cake. I'm sure that only took a couple hours most to organise. He didn't receive a thank you note after attending any party but honestly I would think that unnecessary?

Do fewer after school activities. Or have the DC do the same activity. My 2 brothers and I did the same sport once a week. Although on different teams it was only ever a few hours once a week to the same venue Saturday mornings.

Bill paying and small tasks do add up. But if you sit down and do everything in one go it's pretty quick.

I have a shopping list in the fridge with a magnetic pen stuck next to it. DS adds to it as well. I then take a pic and send to DH when he goes shopping. Or does your DH have a list and still forget? If that's the case definitely online shop!

Have another list on the fridge with tasks that need doing. Ask your DH to pick a couple he can do each day and tick them off.

Lastly be kind to yourself. Some things just aren't going to get done to as a high standard as when you had 1 or 2 kids. But that's ok! Don't feel guilty if you have to cut back on library trips/after school activities/party planning etc. It's just the way it goes! Better you look after yourself so you are less stressed and less run down

WoIsMe · 08/06/2018 20:30

No tone intended Fate I was responding to your query on how I spend my day, I apologise if I offended you. You're quite correct that I need to sit down and discuss things with DH as I'm sure he is aware that I am on the ragged edge but doesn't know how he can help. I appreciate that a lot of people on here are trying to help with my issue so thank you to everyone that has taken time to reply.

Soap I don't think DH and I could easily swap between full time and part time. My current job has no full time positions and DH works in a lab so he needs to be there full time. I would also be worried that I would still end up doing all of the emotional labour on top of working full time so would actually be worse off than now.

OP posts:
HellenaHandbasket · 08/06/2018 20:39

I only have three kids and don't work, but then they don't go to school and are home educated (bar the baby 😂) so don't have the same level on my plate as you. DH works away 3 days a week so routine is important.

I wouldn't go through a whole faff with clothes for example. When they grow out of an item chuck it in the charity bag (I always have one on the go), once that is nearly full drop it at nearest charity shop/bin. Every now and then pull out what is in storage and review it.

Set up an online food order weekly, I always did Thursday or Friday mornings so there is loads for the weekend. With a delivery pass you could just get two smaller deliveries so you get fresh milk/packed lunch stuff first thing on a Monday/last thing on Sunday type thing. You both put the app on your phones and add to the list as you run out of stuff. Get a couple of half decent pizzas or ready meals as freezer backup.

Buy anything that can be bought online, online. I rarely go to physical shops now and don't buy without checking Amazon/eBay.

Spend an evening together setting up a joint calendar with lists/reminders. Program in all the stuff that needs to go in...warnings for MOTs, birthdays etc. At the same time decide a budget for parties etc, make enquiries.

Routine: library visit every other Saturday. Keep all books in the same spot in the house for easy change over. Routine gets a bad name but it helps because it becomes second nature, and takes away any willpower element. It just becomes what you do.

You sound in a total headspin, when actually when you break it down none of this is that bad, it is just life. You both sound like you work hard, maybe you just need to work smarter.

PrincessCuntsuelaVaginaHammock · 08/06/2018 20:57

OP appears to be doing childcare during the portion of the day when DH is engaged in paid work and she isn't, so one of them doesn't have more time than the other.

ItIsUnnervinglyQuietInHere · 09/06/2018 08:45

Tbh, I agree with other posters.

I only have 2 children but I am a lone parent with zero support.

Everything you just described (with the exception of ordering Ritalin) I also do.

But I don't have anyone to share the household chores with.

You definitely need to work smarter.

And I do think it's learned helplessness. Yes, you are right that those things aren't important to him so he does them badly because he can't really be bothered and then you take over and he doesn't have to worry about them. If you'd expected him to chase between hospitals to pick up meds it wouldn't have happened.

His expectation is that if he doesn't do it, you will. Your expectation is the same so that is what happens.

category12 · 09/06/2018 08:51

Yes, it's all very well him being embarrassed or sorry that you ended up chasing the medication, but he needs to feel it. He needs to be the one fixing his fuck-ups.

lifebegins50 · 09/06/2018 09:19

You sound in a total headspin, when actually when you break it down none of this is that bad, it is just life. You both sound like you work hard, maybe you just need to work smarter

Completely agree with this.
I think you are overwhelmed and need a break so asking your dh to do more but the issue might be your coping skills now.
You mention you are meticulous, do you struggle to do "good enough"? Do you view every request as important? Bottle for school is a "nice to do", but obviously medication is a priority.
It is fine to drop the ball on a few occasions with the less important issues and towards end of term it is always frantic.Can you handle not getting it perfect?

I think your dh sounds like a good guy, just different to you so try to focus on what he does do.I think with the fine he is burying his head in the sand..not a good strategy but we all have our weak points.

Definitely online shop.

Tertiathethird · 09/06/2018 09:24

You sound overwhelmed. I think it’s hard for other posters to say if the split is fair or not but what I think you should do is lower your own standards. The clothing thing sounds over the top for a working parent of 4, be much more slapdash and let your children be responsible for more. I’m one of 4 and my mum managed by not doing much very well! She made sure we were clothed and fed and exercised, did our school work and were happy but hardly any after school activities and generally an easy going approach to life. I think if you are a perfectionist it is very very hard to have lots of children and not get extremely frazzled.

Definitely do all the shopping online.

Get job lots of presents for parties - this is really not a big job but a once a year job.

Lower your standards for your own kids birthday parties. Mine can’t have one every year or it’s too much of a chore for me and too costly.

Your DH sounds more relaxed and I think this might be the key for you too. Except over things that really DO matter like medication and education. Try and decide what really matters and cut yourself more slack. And I think you should also ringfence some time for yourself to do something you love - and by feeding yourself you will ease the stress.

Batinahat · 09/06/2018 09:34

@WoIsMe shared calendar app recommendation - we use Cozi which is fab. Free version does everything I need. Both me and DP have it on our phones and we can both add things to it. You can have it set so that when you add something the other person gets an alert. It also has shared lists so you can keep a shopping list on there that you can both add to and see

TacoLover · 09/06/2018 09:39

Why does one party take 20 hours to organizeGrin

sashh · 09/06/2018 09:59

Why are the children complaining to you that their father hasn't bought fruit or biscuits or whatever? Tell them to complain to their dad. Or get them to write the shopping list. In fact get them to do the online shopping, not all of it, just have a day you are doing an online order and they have to put things in 'the trolly'.

With the prescription mine are ordered from the pharmacy by phone, the pharmacy contacts the Dr, I'm not sure if this is an option for you.

I agree with using an online calendar or have a look at the alexa thread, people seem to find alexa useful for shopping lists.

WoIsMe · 10/06/2018 13:55

Taco the party taking 20 hours was in response to the idea that I have much more free time than DH because I work part time. I was pointing out that things that seem to be quick can actually take a lot longer than you think when you factor in all of the activities such as buying stuff for and assembling party bags, getting thank you notes written etc.

Thanks for the Cozi recommendation Bat I'll take a look at it.

OP posts:
Pippylou · 10/06/2018 14:01

I haven't read all the threads properly but if you have a kid with ADHD, it's hugely genetic and it's likely someone in previous generations also have it and it sounds like him...

He doesn't need to be hyperactive physically to have it. Tiredness is a huge part of it...

New posts on this thread. Refresh page