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Is sex a deal breaker?

67 replies

Jamiem80 · 01/06/2018 23:00

In the last 5 years I've had sex with my wife three times, once in the last three years. Initially this was down to our children who are now 5 and 8. Obviously the dc are at school and almost always are at school 8-6 as I drop them off and pick them up. My wife is a SAHM though she takes part in several groups and classes. After getting home I do cook all meals, washing up, laundry, ironing and cleaning most nights I do not finish before 10pm and 5 nights a week my wife goes out too classes. The other two one is date night where I cook us a three course meal and give her a massage the other is her pamper night. We have talked about the situation recently and I suggested she reduced her classes and she could go more at home, I also mentioned sex. Her response was that I was an abusive pervert.Really not sure how to proceed I don't want to think she's wrong but I'm struggling like this.

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HollowTalk · 03/06/2018 15:53

He has said he only just earns over minimum wage.

dragonwarrior · 03/06/2018 16:08

Assuming this is true she is taking the absolute piss out of you.

If she is a SAHM, you don't need to do the school run because she should with you maybe doing it once a week so your kids get the excitement of you picking them up.

She should also be doing a fair share of the jobs at home.

My Husband and I both work FT. He works further and longer days than I do so I do the school drop to breakfast and afterschool club. I do the lions share of the cooking, cleaning, shopping etc but we do also have a cleaner who comes once a week.
He maintains the garden, loads the dishwasher (the kids unload) and we split times for exercise so we both go out 2-4 times a week but usually on the same evenings.... I get dinner ready for when he walks through the door.... go out for my hour and then I come in and he goes out shortly afterwards while I eat my dinner. So a few nights a week we hardly see much of each other but the other nights we have our dinner together.

Having no sex would probably be a deal breaker for me.... not entirely sure I could walk away for that alone but I would be so miserable.

To be doing everything while he sat at home bringing in no pay but spending it all and doing none of the family jobs..... you might as well be alone paying her a divorce settlement because at least then you have a chance of meeting someone who treats you like an equal!

Newerversion · 03/06/2018 16:59

So your children go to wraparound care even though your wife is a stay at home parent? Perhaps this needs rethinking?
Is there any way you could suggest your wife prepares meals before her class of an evening? Maybe during the day?

With regards to the sex issue- has there been a history here? If not with you with a previous partner?
It sounds like the relationship is a bit unevenly weighted at the moment.

LiteraryDevil1 · 03/06/2018 22:47

Why does she think you are "an abusive pervert?"

LiteraryDevil1 · 03/06/2018 22:47

Why does she think you are "an abusive pervert?"

LiteraryDevil1 · 03/06/2018 22:48

Sorry for the duplicate, said it had failed to send.

Jamiem80 · 09/06/2018 01:19

LiteraryDevil1 im abusive if I suggest any change or deviation from her routine and a pervert when I bring up sex. I don't want to leave for our kids sake and cling on to the hope that things can be occasionally good!

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TinkyWinkyStoleMyHandbag · 09/06/2018 01:21

Yes.

My GF has no sex drive. We have no sexual chemistry.

I know I have to end it but I feel so bad.

MistressDeeCee · 09/06/2018 01:34

Doormats aren't sexy.

Your post does sound very far-fetched but if true then you know very well she's using you.

Puffycat · 09/06/2018 01:46

Sorry but this thread is clearly dodgy. It’s bloody classic,
I’m a great bloke and my wife is doing kettle balls, Zumba, contemporary dancing, aqua fit and boot camp?! Ps, our sex life is suffering, can you give some advice?
Bloody hell!
Perv

ShamelesslyPlacemarking · 09/06/2018 02:07

Sounds like an MRA martyr fantasy to me but on the off-chance that there’s a logical way this could add up, the obvious answer is that you’ve enabled her narcissism for years and it’s time to stop. No reasonable person in the world could make an argument for this being an equitable relationship, and if your wife uses accusations of abuse to stop you asking for a fairer deal, then she’s obviously not reasonable. Proceed with advice from a lawyer would be my suggestion.

Puffycat · 09/06/2018 02:11

jamiem80 stop taking the piss

LuMarie · 09/06/2018 03:06

I have gone off it and it's been a long time. Long time, but not as long as that.

I talked to my partner about it. I was the one who started the conversation when I noticed how I was feeling. I explained the reasons. I stressed and have have reassured that he had not done anything wrong and it was not his fault.

For me reasons are medication and a trauma playing on my mind. I am going to go to counselling because the trauma has to be dealt with as it is clear to me that I'm being bothered by it in many ways, not just this. I also spoke to my partner about going to counselling and he's supportive. It involves his relationship too, as well as my own world and mind, so of course I told him.

The counselling is something I want to do and I need to do it for me, but I do believe my partner and all the people in my life also deserve me happy and well. I also want to be happy and well!

I have wondered if my relationship with my partner has developed into something where the chemistry has evolved and that's why I'm not feeling that kind of attraction, but as I'm not sure if it's medication and or trauma messing with me, I'll try to understand this more in therapy. If I think it is a loss of chemistry, I would find a kind and gentle way to suggest we change the nature of our relationship but stay close friends. It isn't right for either of us to call ourselves something we are not and I wouldn't want to deny a partner a more suitable intimate relationship that made him happy.

My partner has been patient, he has gently tried to initiate something a couple of times, not excessively, and he has made a few gentle and definitely not malicious jokes about it being a while. I've asked him not to as this makes me more uncomfortable, I won't do anything if I feel close to pressured and mentioning it when we're not discussing it specifically in a way that is productive just makes me feel bad. Those reactions are all me however, not his fault. So I ask him not to but I would never dream of calling him names for any of that.

It's me who is not quite on track and he is being understanding and supportive, not unreasonable at all.

If I somehow came to the conclusion that I didn't want to be intimate with anyone (come on therapy, not the result we are going for, way too young!) and made the choice in a healthy way for myself, no factors other than just a personal choice, I would tell my partner that I didn't want that in my life for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't keep someone from a relationship with someone else that could be more fulfilling and suitable for them.

This sounds like a very different dynamic to the story here!

I go to yoga classes and the gym a lot, body confidence, increased energy, clear mind and endorphin rush - those things are all helpful to improve intimacy, if the underlying desire is there, they are not reasons for me!

Puffycat · 09/06/2018 03:10

Oh come on!

Naynayba · 09/06/2018 04:44

Regardless of the genders it doesnt ring true that one low paid job could fund all this. Its not clear why one partner is the stay at home partner but either partner thought it was acceptable that this person should apparently do no work at all ever. Hmm

Lizzie48 · 09/06/2018 09:43

Your situation is very similar to mine, @LuMarie I can't face sexual intimacy because of childhood SA, DH and I haven't had full sex for over five years. The difference is that I am still attracted to him and we do kiss and cuddle. It's become the elephant in the room, though, as we don't talk about it. On the other hand, we have adopted DDs of 9 and 6 and DD1 has complex needs so it's unlikely we'll have had much in the way of action even if I didn't have my problems.

Like you, I am working through my issues but it's a long haul, isn't it? You can PM me if you want to. Thanks

Wherearemymarbles · 09/06/2018 14:10

Hmmm. How bizarre!
Leave. It will never change. She has you where she wants you and is in all probability shagging the postman

You havnt said why she doesnt pick the kids up from school at 3.30.

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