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Is he stalling on getting married or just does not want to ever get married...?

105 replies

MissesEG · 01/06/2018 21:27

Right, okay.
Been with OH for three years and relationship has it’s ups and downs. I have Borderline Personality Disorder which can create some of the ‘downs’ for us.
Basically, very early on in relationship we moved in together, and I brought along my 8 yo DS who partner got along famously with.
There were many emotional talks about how wonderful we are as a family and how he can’t wait to give me his last name, have babies of our own etc.
Three years down the line and we’ve had a dreadful conversation whereby I pretty much said I’m ready to try for our first child and he totally shot me down. Not even ‘I’m not ready yet.’ Just flat out ‘no way. Never.’ I’m 34 almost 35 and he is 32.
His ex of 12 years left because she had to trick him into a proposal and he told her for twelve years he didn’t ever want kids. Thinking she could change his mind, she waited until eventually she fell out of love with him. (And in love with someone else!)

Now... the baby thing I wasn’t totally sold on myself anyway. It might’ve been nice, but I have my son. I’m grateful I got to have one child.

But...I’ve inherited some money, about £75000. I offered to pay off our mortgage and obviously have a percentage share of the house in my name. Partner agreed. Now, as we’re about ready to sign forms etc I mentioned the fact I’ve bought a £5500 porch for his house and maybe that should be included in the legal deeds etc. He says ‘it’s not very nice is it, having to say what amounts were putting in, and what percentages etc.’ I said well the other option, a more romantic option maybe, I mentioned about getting married. That way everythings down the middle forever.
OH got annoyed and presumes I’m only saying this because I want 50% which hurt my feelings so much. His parents had an awful divorce and he makes comments about how getting married is all for a woman’s benefit.
It might be that my mental health is not great at the moment but I really worry that at 35 I’m accepting a relationship without marriage and kids. We spoke about both these issues very early on and were both on the fence about a baby, but both said of course we’d love to marry each other. He even said things like ‘you’re going to look amazing in a wedding dress,’ ‘we know we’re going to get married one day, might as well make it soon!’ That was two years ago!
Am I being a fool for thinking he still might propose one day. He always says ‘I’ve never said I Definately DONT want to get married.’ But I remind him at one stage in our early days he was broody and discussing baby names! And now that’s a definite no.

OP posts:
Rainbowqueeen · 01/06/2018 21:32

I would not enter into any financial ties with this man

Sorry but I do not think he wants to get married and I would disregard everything he said in the early days about marriage and kids. That was his way of reeling you in

I’d think about ending it. Sorry OP

Teaandbiscuits35 · 01/06/2018 21:33

You need to decide how important marriage and another child are to you. If they are massive to you you'll end up resenting him if you stay and he doesn't change his mind. The financial stuff doesn't sound great either to be honest.

MissyEmRain · 01/06/2018 21:37

I have been thinking maybe I should start listening to what he’s ‘telling’ me via his actions.
I have even been looking at flats for me and my son so that also tells me I’m considering that option already.
But I’ve been in a very violent relationship so I always worry that perhaps I’ve got one foot out the door because of insecurities over that.
He’s good with my son and so loving with me though, it’s a tough one.
I’ve said tonight that I’m not going to put any money in the house. It seems like he’s not fussed either way. He just wants no risk at all. He said he will keep ‘his’ house whatever happens and will just buy me out if we split up. There’s no way this will ever feel like me and my sons home anyway really

MissyEmRain · 01/06/2018 21:38

To be honest, I’m so grateful to have a healthy child but I would’ve loved another one and I feel I’m compromising so much here. Now to feel like I’m just a gold digger for mentioning marriage!

DianaT1969 · 01/06/2018 21:38

You're in a good position to buy your own house, with no financial ties to this man who doesn't see a future with you. You don't sound compatible as he's puling in one direction and you're in another. You have time to meet someone who fits.

LineysSummerMonths · 01/06/2018 21:41

Please please exit this relationship.

Independent Plan B sounds a lot better. Good luck.

5BlueHydrangea · 01/06/2018 21:47

He doesn't sound very interested in marriage or even living together long term. Sounds quite callous saying 'if we split...' when you're suggesting putting your inheritance into a joint property. Seriously think about that.. you stand to lose a lot financially if you're not careful.
The fact you are looking at properties without him speaks volumes...
Don't sign anything anytime soon!

MissyEmRain · 01/06/2018 21:53

That’s the thing. I thought he’d be pleased that we would be mortgage free! And I mentioned Saving that spare money and trying to get a second house in years to come. But he looks at me like I’m mad. I don’t think I realised that the team I thought I was part of, may not be a team at all

Shoxfordian · 01/06/2018 22:12

Start being on your own team
He has quite sexist views and clearly doesn't want to marry you.

Gemini69 · 01/06/2018 22:17

wow.. OP.. you need to follow your own Dreams... oh and sign over not a penny to this man ... Flowers

SandyY2K · 01/06/2018 22:24

Name fail change... but I'd be done with him. He doesn't sound very nice and you need to hold on to your money.

pissedonatrain · 02/06/2018 08:33

Please don't give this guy a penny! He's made it clear you're the good for now girl and doesn't want to get married to you.

Find a new place for yourself and stop wasting your time on this lout.

Did you buy the current house with him or is it his house?

MissyEmRain · 02/06/2018 09:26

Oh it’s very much his house. He bought it from his gran. When his ex left after seven years she took her name off the dress/mortgage etc so legally it’s just his house now.
He has always maintained that I would leave the house if things went wrong. I feel insecure about that because this is my sons home, he has made friends here and goes to the local school etc. I just always feel I’m on the back foot and not being given an equal standing in this relationship. I’m the one compromising all the time.
In most ways he’s a great partner, we get on well and have such a laugh together, enjoy the same pursuits and he’s made a difference with my sons behaviour too.

MissyEmRain · 02/06/2018 09:26

*deeds not dress!

pissedonatrain · 02/06/2018 09:30

Take your money and get your own place where you can be secure. Please don't pay off his mortgage for a house you don't own. You are not in an equal standing in this relationship. You're the one at risk here. He has risked nothing for you. That doesn't make him a great partner.

MissyEmRain · 02/06/2018 09:32

I was on benefits when I met this man, so the power was always with him. Since I’ve been studying for my degree, doing voluntary work to get experience alongside my paid job and inherited this money, I could be wrong, but it feels like he doesn’t like me bettering myself and feels insecure. I wonder if preventing us having marriage/babies is his way of stopping me doing things in a bit of a controlling way?! I’ve been controlled before but I may have been blindsided this time as he’s usually so loving

MissyEmRain · 02/06/2018 09:34

If I put my inheritance into his house though we would do that through a solicitor and legally i would own a percentage share of the house, or I could put in X amount and then put a clause that stipulates I receive X amount back if thins do go wrong rather than a percentage?

TatianaLarina · 02/06/2018 09:36

Please be sensible OP. This idea is crazy. Keep your money for you and your son.

When you’ve finished your degree you can use it as a good sized deposit on your own place. And don’t blow 5 grand on a porch!

borlottibeans · 02/06/2018 09:38

If you want to put money into this house please please please speak to your own solicitor first (not a joint one), on your own.

category12 · 02/06/2018 09:38

Take a big step back emotionally and go get done independent financial advice before you do a thing with that money.

Then have a good think about whether you want marriage and/or more dc. You won't get either with this man.

If that's OK with you, then stay. Otherwise leave.

Make sure you're doing the best thing possible with your inheritance for your own sake and your dc's, without factoring in your dp. He's feathering his own nest, you need to protect yourself.

pissedonatrain · 02/06/2018 09:40

He doesn't want marriage and babies with you. He's made that clear. When he finds he one he wants to do that with, you will be out on your ear. He's not a nice person.

It's crazy to put your inheritance into his house even with a solicitor.

MissyEmRain · 02/06/2018 09:41

I already bought the porch :-( i felt like I had to...I got given the cheque for 5k and he had been saying how much he wanted a porch blah blah so I just said I’d love to get it for the house so I could feel like I’ve contributed (I feel insecure as I don’t pay exactly half towards mortgage and bills as I only work part time :-( he always reminds me that I have my son too, so basically I don’t pay my way!)

MissyEmRain · 02/06/2018 09:42

I also bought OH’s stepdad a van for £2000 as he needed it for his business and they had previously paid for our holiday to Cornwall. It’s very awkward as his family know I have all this money and when his step dad couldn’t run his business without a van, I offered to help out as I’m grateful to them for our holiday

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 02/06/2018 09:50

Run and do not look back. How's family have already had 7.5 grand off you.
He uses emotional blackmail, I bet you are already paying loads into the house.
You could find somewhere near you, so your DS doesn't lose friends.
You are still young, if you leave now, you will still have time to meet someone and have another baby.
You current DP will use you and then when all your money is gone you will be replaced. Sorry, but do not wait.

Horsedogbird · 02/06/2018 09:50

Don't pay off his mortgage. It's your money