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An emotionally unavailable boyfriend

71 replies

Susannecrawford · 08/03/2018 14:42

Hey, I wondered if I’d be able to get some advice or support from any ladies out there who may have had a similar situation or even those who haven’t.

I’ve been with my boyfriend almost a year. I love him so incredibly much. When things are good, they couldn’t be much better. But when they’re not, I feel very alone in the relationship. Since the beginning of the relationship I’ve struggled to get emotion from him. There’s little affection - verbal or non-verbal, I usually have to be the one to facilitate.

I thought with encouragement & patience I’d be able to make him open up a bit more... this hasn’t been the case. He’s a bit older than me (24) but it feels like he’s much younger.

He avoids adult conversations & committing.
He’s moving with his family to the other side of the country - when I’ve asked about the future & how we’d make it work, he simply said “Idk”. Even getting basic affection from him is almost impossible unless I say things first.

When I’m at his place, he spends a lot of the time checking Facebook or playing games. Even small things like going on dates - I’ve always had to go the extra distance to meet him since he’s been disinclined to spend much money.

I’ve been trying so hard to be understanding - I know not all men find it easy to be emotionally literate. But it’s difficult being with a man who’s so unwilling to emotionally invest & commit.

Sometimes I think I could do better or date someone who appreciates me more. But the truth is, I love him despite his faults. I don’t want anyone else. I just wish I was prioritised by him & treated as though I’m actually in a relationship with him. I feel trapped because I love him and of course I want to be with him. But I find myself wondering whether I’m really going to get what I want from this relationship or from him

OP posts:
tigerrun · 09/03/2018 12:26

The bottom line is that he is just not that into you, immature or not you are both adults and he is an adult who is choosing to move across the country with his family rather than stay with you.

It is time to move on as it is inevitable the relationship will end, you may as well get on with it. 'IDK' is not the response of someone who loves you or wants to be with you or frankly gives a shit.

When you do meet someone who loves you and meets your needs you will look back on this relationship and see quite how much it didn't.

Iflyaway · 09/03/2018 12:51

OP, you've had lots of good advice on here.

I would disagree with one though.

"Go and find yourself (a better man)..."

I would leave out "the man" and say take time to become independent without the need for a man to validate you.

Then the man will come along to compliment you.

You are very young and deserve so much more than this sorry excuse for an "adult" man.

Iflyaway · 09/03/2018 12:52

Anyway , see it as a gift that he is moving far away from you...

MIngerDynasty · 09/03/2018 13:01

Jesus run for the hills.
It's annoying now but when you've been with someone for 10 years and who has mentally been not there the entire time.. Think of that.

Really think about it. Then imagine a couple of kids and his family and all the other shit that happens long term and him being useless and not there

Hauskat · 09/03/2018 13:04

I haven’t read the whole thread but I have to respond. Please leave him. It sounds so like my situation but I have been with my husband for 16 years. I’ve done all the running and sacrificed my career. I am a shadow of the person I was. He does love me he just can not be present very often. When he is he is the most fascinating and amazing man I have ever met but I have spent so much energy trying to draw him out of his shell I haven’t spent enough time or energy on myself. We are now in marriage counciling but I wish I had just given up before I had a baby or bought a flat with him or gave up my education. Have you googled ‘avaidant attachment style’?

Hauskat · 09/03/2018 13:07

Ahem I mean avoidant!

StormTreader · 09/03/2018 13:10

" unlike my previous partners, he allowed me to be myself and didn’t just want me for what I could offer them."

Ah, so your previous partners were controlling? It makes sense that you would feel relief at finding someone who doesnt really care and lets you do your own thing. The thing is though that youve swung too far the other way with this one, youve gone from controlling partners to one that actually just doesnt care at all.

There is a middle ground of "not controlling but also caring and supportive" but this guy isnt it in the same way that the other guys werent it either.

Susannecrawford · 09/03/2018 15:13

I wish things were different but I also understand that they aren’t likely to improve. Because in reality, people don’t change. He’s not a bad guy, not by any stretch of the imagination - it’s just some people simply cannot find the ability to be expressive and find adult commitment and emotionally mature relationships intimidating. I do understand despite the fact it’s hard for me to accept it.. Sad

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seventh · 09/03/2018 15:37

it’s just some people simply cannot find the ability to be expressive and find adult commitment and emotionally mature relationships intimidating.

Yes. That's true.

But even those people would be bothered about moving away from someone they love. Your DP doesn't seem interested in you at all 😢

minmooch · 09/03/2018 17:52

hes not a bad guy - but he's not the good guy for you. It doesn't have to be more difficult or even more sad than that. We are not compatible with everyone we meet. It's learning to give it a good go but recognise when it really is not working.

Don't waste your energy on trying to fathom him out, or working too hard to make it work. Learn from this relationship. You are learning what does not work for you. The next time you will learn earlier on if a man is not and will not be emotionally available.

There are plenty of good ones out there that will be a better match for you.

NC4Now · 09/03/2018 17:56

As long as you’re with him, you’ll be trying to change him, and it will make you both unhappy.
You’re young. I’d cut your losses and move on.

Bonge · 09/03/2018 18:00

We as women, sometimes, go after men who are emotionally unavailable (otherwise known as arseholes). I'm unsure why; maybe we try to change them? We like the chase/excitement? Who knows.

I think it's best to accept when you just can't change someone. You deserve better. I can imagine that the good times are great, but that doesn't warrant the arsehole behaviour the rest of the time.

Best of luck. Someone who will treat you better will come around x

PrizeOik · 09/03/2018 18:33

some people simply cannot find the ability to be expressive and find adult commitment and emotionally mature relationships intimidating.

It's probably not that though.

He just doesn't really love you that much. He's not that into you. You've imagined that he is - he just isn't.

I know that's very blunt, but I believe you need to get real here, otherwise you keep running in circles going "oh but I just need to get him to open up!" "He just needs to feel ready!" No, he doesn't, he just needs to find a person who he is really in to.

Then it becomes SUPER easy to commit, everything will just fall into place for him, there will be no dithering or wondering what to do - it will just work. He would want to stay.

The reason he is moving away is because he wants to, and he isn't that into you so you're not a reason for him to stay.

You say you're scared to end things because you've pinned your hopes on him. Again - I'm going to be blunt - literally everyone who has ever split with someone, has had that feeling. It's not special, it's not a sign that you shouldn't split with him.

Next time around, remember not to pin your hopes on anyone but yourself. This is a bog standard, very ordinary lesson that everyone learns in relationships - usually at around your age. You are going to be OK.

Just end things, put yourself out of your misery - there is nothing here for you. Stop contact, have a good cry, keep busy, and things will move on and improve.

seventh · 09/03/2018 18:43

@PrizeOik

Yup.

All these supposedly emotionally unavailable men. Become miraculously emotionally available when with the right woman.

Twas ever thus

eddielizzard · 09/03/2018 20:11

prizeoik speaks a world of sense. very hard words to hear, but very true.

PaperRockMissile · 11/03/2018 12:47

So I’m meant to just ignore the things I desire and want? I really don’t think I’ve expected too much from him, I’ve really only expected the bare basics for any relationship.

No you aren't meant to ignore what you desire and want.
No you haven't expected too much from him.

The point is that HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU SO WILL NEVER GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT.

But I’m scared to do so - we may have only had a year-long relationship but it was long enough for me to pins my hopes on this man and envisage a future with him.

Read my post up thread. If you don't end it, he will and probably in an unpleasant way - when he meets someone else after he's moved away and starts cheating on you.

This relationship is not serving any purpose for you other than hurting you. Better you are in control now and end it - at least you will have salvaged some pride and self esteem to ease your pain. Leave it and you will have totally broken self esteem to add to the pain.

You will be back here posting about how depressed you are because he's met someone and moved in with her "and what was wrong with me?". Don't be that girl.

And future advice never "pin your hopes "on anyone for anything ever again. Hopes are nothing; it's action that counts. Until the deal is signed, the turkey is cooked and the chickens are hatched, hopes are valueless.

Susannecrawford · 13/03/2018 10:04

I would like to say thank you to each of you for your replies and contributions. Collectively they allowed me to accept what I already knew I needed to do but was too scared to admit to myself. I have decided to call it a day with him once he moves. We have already begun to discuss it. The reality was - the relationship was one-sided and for a while I had been feeling exhausted and bled dry in many different ways. I’m trying to keep my chin up and stay hopeful that something better will be waiting for me when the time’s right. Thank you for opening my eyes to what I was too disinclined to see

OP posts:
misscph1973 · 13/03/2018 10:20
Flowers

“Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn’t.”

― Erica Jong

seventh · 13/03/2018 17:49

Hugs @Susannecrawford 💕

jamaisjedors · 13/03/2018 18:04

So hard for you I know but you made the right decision and you will look back and wonder how you put up with him. Good luck with it all.

DeltaG · 13/03/2018 18:33

@Susannecrawford

Well done Susanne for finding the courage to do this. It will hurt but it's for the best. There is a life waiting for you out there; go and get it! Good luck xx

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