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Long waffle - am I being silly?

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bumbleme03 · 06/02/2018 15:32

Hi there ladies and gents,

I apologise for waffling on, and please be kind I’m looking for advice as I can’t seemingly talk to anybody else about this.

I have a lovely little boy who is nearly 9 months old and live with my partner. My partner has two children from a previous relationship.
My partner is former military, when we first met he was splitting up with his wife and coming out of the military. I fell for his charm and character though it was a tough ride, he moved out of his house and his then wife was an absolute nightmare and at times nearly split us up however we battled through the whole thing (along with my BFF vino blanco). He moves into my house and initially everything is awesome.

He has always been complicated and at times difficult but since the birth of our son things have dramatically changed in our relationship. Firstly, I don’t know about anybody else but wowzers they don’t prepare you for having a child do they??! I tried to breastfeed for three weeks, but in the end became very depressed. I just couldn’t focus, and I was like – shit, I’ve built up a career and now I’m sat here with milk leaking out my sore and inflated boobs. I found breastfeeding psychologically damaging, my son would only come to me when crying (quite rightly so) and I was so tired, anyway I went to the doctors, gained support from other mums and stopped breastfeeding. Immediately I felt better and began to bond with my lad.

Things between me and my partner changed, he was at work and I was at home. He’d come home and say the house was a shithole, and there was shit everywhere (not literally), barking at me for not taking the washing out, not hanging it up. Telling me off for not cleaning the baby bottles right – the list goes on but it got to the point where I had to get a cleaner in once a week as I became absolutely obsessed with making sure the house was tidy upon his return from work. I did hide that from him, until one day he had a Monday afternoon off and he found out about my cleaner.
Things continued to be tough, I was still depressed and the adjustment of being a mum was brilliant but hard.

We had friends over one night, and it was a lovely evening. I settled my son down on our bed (I KNOW, but he was fine) and we all sat round the fire in the garden. My partner was drinking quite heavily, whilst I was staying sober but I had been sober for 9 months so no issue for me! Our friends leave and I am just sorting out the garden, and I notice my partner has disappeared. I go to our bedroom and there he is snoring next to my son so immediately I went to go get him to put him in the cot. The next thing that happened I’ll never forget, He lunged up at me (thankfully this was before I’d moved the boy) and chucked me on the floor. He then repeatedly punched me in the face and started strangling me. I now have this living memory of beginning to lose the ability to stay awake, I felt this overwhelming sense of calm but nothing but darkness. I obviously passed out but when I came round I staggered up and took me and my son into his room. The next morning he saw my face and looked horrified, asked me what had happened, I told him but he has no memory and said he was asleep. My face was a mess, I was going back to work for KIT days and I had to feign illness as I couldn’t conceal it. I met up with my parents as I couldn’t avoid it. They saw my eye and had a word, I said he did it in his sleep he couldn’t remember which is what he told me.

Unfortunately, I just had to get over it. After two weeks and no real improvement in the eye department he did tell me to get over it, that he didn’t do it intentionally. I said I was damaged emotionally by it, but got blank responses. I go back to work and we decide that it would be a good opportunity to go back to college and study, he was so keen so essentially became a full time dad. I was so remorseful of going back to work, as I suddenly realised I’d spent the whole 6 months worrying about cleaning, worrying about everything.

His behaviour has just got worse and worse, I know there is always 2 sides to the story but I promise you in this case there isn’t – I have just shrugged off everything he’s done and said, and focused on my lad. At least once a month for a spell of five days roughly he gets into a really bad rut and he’s having one recently. He tells me I don’t spend enough time with him and my son (I come home from work and I’m there, I’m not off gallivanting), he tells me I didn’t do enough when I was off, that I just pawned my son onto him when he came back from work. I said I was depressed, and it wasn’t true. He tells me I was never depressed. He tells me we don’t do anything, I can’t understand that as we socialise a lot and I give examples to which he bats off and tells me I still don’t do enough. He tells me how easy my life is, because he does everything (not true), he says I’m a liar, I ask him about what and he brings up something so random which to you and me, wouldn’t make sense. I suppose an example would be the cleaner. When I try to justify myself he gets more emotional and nit picky till basically I don’t say anything but sit there crying. I tell him he’s a bully, not in an aggressive manner but just because I feel like he is. He tells me he needs to “put his foot down with me” and makes me feel tiny.

Sometimes he’ll say whats wrong, and I can never ever be bothered to say actually you make me so sad, but if I do – he explodes. Nothing I do is good enough, no matter how hard I try, nothing is enough. He never tells me really when he is getting his kids but its normally once a month. Last night, in front of a friend he said he was picking the kids up Saturday, I said that’s great but bit short to be dropping them off on Sunday to which he said he was having them to the following Sunday. In front of a friend there was nothing I could say, he knew it. Later I said I can’t afford to feed us, my son, petrol to and from work yada yada and on top of that feed them, plus give money for them to do things throughout the day. I asked why, he said he just wants them for that long. I can’t say anything without seems like a complete c**t can I. Anyway it’s just another thing I have to suck up.

I’m sorry for my long winded message, there’s so much more and I could be typing for hours!! I feel like I should leave him, but he has no job, nowhere to go etc.

I feel so lonely, as my family think he's great, my friends do but I am just lost. If I talk to him, it never ever works sad xxx

OP posts:
AttilaTheMeerkat · 06/02/2018 15:56

He needs to be gone from your life immediately; he is physically and emotionally abusive. He is a very dangerous individual and you are in a domestic violence relationship. Covering for him as you had done did you no favours at all. He could have all too easily killed you and or put you in hospital.

What do you get out of this relationship now?.

Abusive men can and do appear plausible to those in the outside world although one or two of your friends may have their own suspicions about him.

Abuse as well often ramps up in pregnancy and after childbirth as is the case here.

You probably realise now why his former wife left him. He was bad news from the outset but you only saw the superficial charm act, minimised the red flags and went on also to have a child by him (your son is the only good that has come out of all of this actually). He has done the same with her as he is now doing to you. He is emotionally abusing you and in turn your child. Your son seeing his mother being abused is emotionally harming him. This man cares not a jot for either of you.

Re your comment:-
" I feel like I should leave him, but he has no job, nowhere to go etc".

Why is that an issue at all?. He moved into your house and has acted like That is not your problem, that is his to sort out. He is an adult after all. Do not keep him in your home out of some misguided sense of fairness here; he is not playing nice and is going all out to denigrate you to a point where you will really be a shadow of your former self. He has used you from the very beginning and took full advantage. Such men too hate women, all of them.

Please call Womens Aid on 0808 2000 247 and they will help you if you call them.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 06/02/2018 15:56

Oh sweetheart. I didn't want to read and run.

First of all NO you are not being 'silly'.

You absolutely must get you and your son away from this dangerous and abusive man.

I tell him he’s a bully, not in an aggressive manner but just because I feel like he is. He tells me he needs to “put his foot down with me” and makes me feel tiny

This is exactly what he is. A bully.

He then repeatedly punched me in the face and started strangling me

This made my blood run cold, you poor thing. He could kill you next time.

Please talk to your family - show them this post.

Please call Women's Aid for advice.

You need to get this man out of your house as soon as possible for your safety. Please. We are here to talk to and hold your hand if you need it.

LuxuryWoman2017 · 06/02/2018 16:01

This dangerous lunatic could kill you. You have to get rid of him. You have no option. He is a grave danger to you and nobody would think him great if they knew the truth. Don't keep his awful secrets.

Boatsonthewater · 06/02/2018 16:11

Honestly, this makes really painful reading. I think a lot of men with military backgrounds are psychologically damaged. They are bullied and shouted at as part of their training, and being meticulous is drilled into them, as is organisation and tidiness. They then take this home and treat their wives like this. He also sounds like he may have PTSD without being aware of it.
You need to get out. Now. This is a toxic environment not just for your poor son but also obviously for you. You sound beaten down, traumatised and highly stressed. It doesn't matter what others think of him or of your relationship. You know the truth, and it's not acceptable or tolerable. He could have killed you, and if you stay things will only get worse. Just get out, go and stay with your parents if you can, and don't for god's sake go back. It just isn't worth it.

BackInTheRoom · 06/02/2018 16:31

Hi @bumbleme03

I'm not going to lie, your story is horrendous and you weren't waffling. How you've survived this far is unbelievable.

You know that guilt you feel, he has nowhere to go etc, he doesn't feel the same guilt treating you badly. What does this say to you?

Here's a link to a great site:

http://outofthefog.website/separating-and-divorcing/

You know what needs to be done OP. 

Huskylover1 · 06/02/2018 16:56

I think he has abused you for so long, you simply can't see the wood for the trees any more.

This is a no brainer. He's a total and utter cunt, and you need to throw him out.

I feel like I should leave him, but he has no job, nowhere to go etc

That is not our problem. He is a fully grown man and will figure something out.

I would confide in your parents and have them with you when you tell him it's over. Could you move back home and place the house on the market?

You need to figure out all of the financials and get the ball rolling.

And, I hate to say it, but if you don't leave him, your son will learn from his dad and grown up to be an abuser. Is that what you want for him?

bumbleme03 · 06/02/2018 18:19

I am sat here shaking by feeling overwhelmed by what you guys have written, God how pathetic does that sound but nobody, and I mean nobody has ever supported my thoughts and I'm so pleased I've come to this site. Thank you, thank you so much. I've come home from work and I ask him if he wants a bath, so I'll look after my son, he says no so I ask if I can go have one. He says he knew I just wanted a bath, and that I don't do anything for free. I don't understand what he means. Mind you, I don't understand what he means most of the time... And you're right about Ptsd, completely. He did three tours, and never talks about what happened so maybe it is that, so on the basis of that my thought process has always been that I should be tolerant of his behaviour. I don't know, recently when without our son he started on me in the car and I got to the point where I flung myself out of the car, I know once again that sounds pathetic but he sends me to the point of complete delirium and quite rightly then he says I'm mentally ill but remember guys, I've 'never been depressed' I'm just mental. He tells me that the only time I'm happy, yes me, is when he 'keeps his mouth shut' which again I don't understand? And with regards his ex, yes I agree - he told me she had an affair with one of his recruits. God I'm going to sound horrific and please don't judge but now.. Can I blame her? I'm not saying I would, I mean who would get with a single mum.. How do you even find anybody??? I don't have enough time to breathe yet alone find someone willing to take on me and an eight month old! You're right about the financial side of things I have a mortgage, and bills to pay so my lad will have to go to nursery which is so expensive...sorry just typing out loud. Fundamentally I don't know what to do, I am about to sit down and talk with him. For what purpose I don't know, I feel I need some space but I'm scared of knowing he is going to say some horrible and untrue things about me xx

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BackInTheRoom · 06/02/2018 18:30

@bumbleme03

Don't talk to him until you've read up with what you're dealing with!
He won't agree with you. He doesn't think like me or you!

Please read the link! Stay safe.

Wellfuckmeinbothears · 06/02/2018 18:33

Oh love,

You are not waffling and not being silly. He is a dangerous, abusive bastard. I was in a relationship that was emotionally, physically and financially abusive. It took me 3 years to leave but I am so, so glad I did.

It was terrifying, admitting to anyone what was going on let alone admitting to myself that I was in a relationship with a man who would probably kill me if I didn't leave. Did you know that men who strangle their partners are far more likely to end up killing them?

You have to leave, for yours and your little boys safety. Do you have any family or friends? If not, go to womens aid. They can and will help you leave safely. I know how daunting it is, the idea of coping with nursery fee's, leaving your home etc but I promise you it will be worth it. There is nothing so big you can't overcome it.

You need to get your ducks in a row. Whats the situation with your house? Is he on the mortgage?

Don't worry about how you would ever meet anyone else, your number one priority needs to be getting this awful bully away from you.

x

BackInTheRoom · 06/02/2018 18:33

@bumbleme03

You might be tempted to stay because he might have PTSD but only HE can organise treatment (which IS available btw because my friends husband spent 2 weeks at a centre for forces PTSD) but I suspect he won't.

BackInTheRoom · 06/02/2018 18:40

@bumbleme03

How long have you guys been together?

bumbleme03 · 06/02/2018 19:07

Not long, will be three years this year. He apparently left his ex wife in the November 2014 and met me in April 2015 xx

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Goldandsilverandblack · 06/02/2018 19:13

Please leave :-(
You deserve a better life than this and he's a bully who won't change. I agree with pp that you should get your parents down when you split up with him. Definitely call women's aid too - they have dealt with these situations before and can help.

Your son deserves a better life than this as do you. His lack of job isn't your fault and he should have treated you better if he didn't want to lose the life he had.

You can do this! Life is too short to be miserable.

LuxuryWoman2017 · 06/02/2018 19:16

Didnt take him long to find his next victim then.
Have a chat with the non emergency police. He sounds like he could go berserk when you get rid. You will need support
But you can't live like this.

bumbleme03 · 06/02/2018 19:31

@wellfuckmeinbothears firstly your nickname is hilarious, proper cheered me up. Secondly thank you, that's such good advice. I own the property, he's in a lot of debt from his previous relationship so even if I wanted to, I couldn't xx

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 07/02/2018 09:18

How are you this morning bumbleme03?

Please do not talk to him until you have support lined up and somewhere to go (or some way of getting him out of the house. YOUR house!)

Your safety is paramount here and we are worried about you.

ANother27 · 07/02/2018 09:53

@bumbleme03 this is totally abusive behaviour in every sense - but I think (or at least hope) you already knew that or have learnt that by posting here.

You need to kick him out/leave him As soon as it's safe to do so, take your boy and go! Hate to say it but if he is behaving like this now with you, how long til he starts on your boy too?

Good luck and lots of ThanksThanks

Shoxfordian · 07/02/2018 10:05

This is completely unacceptable abusive behaviour. Please consider calling Womens Aid for some advice and see how quickly you can get away from him.

Huntinginthedark · 07/02/2018 10:25

You’re description of being punched and strangled till you saw black is spinechilling

I don’t want to freak you out, but he will end up killing you.
If you can’t leave this for yourself, you need to leave for your child. You do not want them growing up in care with a dead mother and a father in prison for murder.

I know that sounds extreme, but it does happen.

Wellfuckmeinbothears · 07/02/2018 10:56

Morning Bumble,

Ah good, glad it cheered you up!

Thats good that he isn't on the mortgage as I think that means you can ask him to leave and have him removed if he wont but honestly it is worth getting in touch with womens aid and asking for their advice. They helped me so much and will know a lot more about your rights legally.

I know how frightening it is but he absolutely will carry on abusing you. It will get worse and he will isolate you more and more and abuse you until you don't even know which way is up any more. You had the strength to post here for help, please please take action to get this awful person out of your life now while you have some strength left because believe me he will sap all of that from you if you stay with him. What he did to you is so wrong on every level and I'm scared for you.

You can do this, for you and your son x

Cricrichan · 07/02/2018 11:23

Speak to women's aid and ask for their advice on how to split up safely. I'd also talk to the police to report the pinching and strangling. Just so it's on record.

Nothing you do or say will change this man and don't feel any guilt about him.

Boatsonthewater · 07/02/2018 11:28

There's a lot of self blaming here and confusion on your part, which is totally understandable, OP. He is mentally unwell, and so what he says does not make sense. He needs to get help urgently, but he won't do it unless he wants to, and you need to look after yourself. He is blaming, projecting, and abusing you, and you DO NOT deserve any of it. What you say is not silly at all, you don't need to make excuses for yourself. You are trying to manage in a nightmare situation. I wonder what really happened in his last marriage. It may be his ex chucked him out, not the other way round, for similar reasons.

What you describe is pretty classic PTSD but you aren't responsible for fixing him, he is. Look after yourself. Go to Women's Aid and start making plans for your exit.

bumbleme03 · 07/02/2018 12:28

Hi everybody,

Thank you again for your really lovely and supportive words, they mean so much to me and @huntinginthedark you're right, I am frightened that one day he might take it a step further. I question every day did he really do it in his sleep? Like I mentioned I now have this overwhelming sadness as I have experienced what being close to death feels like. Dark and there was nothing, it's quite isolating really.

You were right @Bibbidee to not talk to him, but like a fool I did last night. I asked him what currently he felt was an issue with me even though he tells me every day what I'm doing wrong (I put it in my original post) - and he said the same things over and over to me which I took. He then said what was he doing to upset me and I took a deep breath and said that he makes me feel very sad, and that he is really negative and he bullies me. He asked me to define bullying so I gave examples, my eye and telling me to get over it, telling me to get over my father's ill health etc. He said it wasn't bullying...to be honest, I just gave up at that point - well more so when once again he said that he thinks depression is made up and fake. I just started crying, not sobbing but the crying I have become used to, the silent type.

I am so dreading this weekend onwards with him and his kids. I feel really trapped and isolated by the whole thing? I don't know how to deal with it? I am lost with it all and an uncontrollable desire to scream. I will contact womens aid guys, and I'll let you know how I get on xxx

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Mishappening · 07/02/2018 12:31

Now you know why his first marriage ended.

Get yourself out of there - he has hit you; it will be your child next.

No is, no buts, just get out.

Mishappening · 07/02/2018 12:31

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