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Long waffle - am I being silly?

76 replies

bumbleme03 · 06/02/2018 15:32

Hi there ladies and gents,

I apologise for waffling on, and please be kind I’m looking for advice as I can’t seemingly talk to anybody else about this.

I have a lovely little boy who is nearly 9 months old and live with my partner. My partner has two children from a previous relationship.
My partner is former military, when we first met he was splitting up with his wife and coming out of the military. I fell for his charm and character though it was a tough ride, he moved out of his house and his then wife was an absolute nightmare and at times nearly split us up however we battled through the whole thing (along with my BFF vino blanco). He moves into my house and initially everything is awesome.

He has always been complicated and at times difficult but since the birth of our son things have dramatically changed in our relationship. Firstly, I don’t know about anybody else but wowzers they don’t prepare you for having a child do they??! I tried to breastfeed for three weeks, but in the end became very depressed. I just couldn’t focus, and I was like – shit, I’ve built up a career and now I’m sat here with milk leaking out my sore and inflated boobs. I found breastfeeding psychologically damaging, my son would only come to me when crying (quite rightly so) and I was so tired, anyway I went to the doctors, gained support from other mums and stopped breastfeeding. Immediately I felt better and began to bond with my lad.

Things between me and my partner changed, he was at work and I was at home. He’d come home and say the house was a shithole, and there was shit everywhere (not literally), barking at me for not taking the washing out, not hanging it up. Telling me off for not cleaning the baby bottles right – the list goes on but it got to the point where I had to get a cleaner in once a week as I became absolutely obsessed with making sure the house was tidy upon his return from work. I did hide that from him, until one day he had a Monday afternoon off and he found out about my cleaner.
Things continued to be tough, I was still depressed and the adjustment of being a mum was brilliant but hard.

We had friends over one night, and it was a lovely evening. I settled my son down on our bed (I KNOW, but he was fine) and we all sat round the fire in the garden. My partner was drinking quite heavily, whilst I was staying sober but I had been sober for 9 months so no issue for me! Our friends leave and I am just sorting out the garden, and I notice my partner has disappeared. I go to our bedroom and there he is snoring next to my son so immediately I went to go get him to put him in the cot. The next thing that happened I’ll never forget, He lunged up at me (thankfully this was before I’d moved the boy) and chucked me on the floor. He then repeatedly punched me in the face and started strangling me. I now have this living memory of beginning to lose the ability to stay awake, I felt this overwhelming sense of calm but nothing but darkness. I obviously passed out but when I came round I staggered up and took me and my son into his room. The next morning he saw my face and looked horrified, asked me what had happened, I told him but he has no memory and said he was asleep. My face was a mess, I was going back to work for KIT days and I had to feign illness as I couldn’t conceal it. I met up with my parents as I couldn’t avoid it. They saw my eye and had a word, I said he did it in his sleep he couldn’t remember which is what he told me.

Unfortunately, I just had to get over it. After two weeks and no real improvement in the eye department he did tell me to get over it, that he didn’t do it intentionally. I said I was damaged emotionally by it, but got blank responses. I go back to work and we decide that it would be a good opportunity to go back to college and study, he was so keen so essentially became a full time dad. I was so remorseful of going back to work, as I suddenly realised I’d spent the whole 6 months worrying about cleaning, worrying about everything.

His behaviour has just got worse and worse, I know there is always 2 sides to the story but I promise you in this case there isn’t – I have just shrugged off everything he’s done and said, and focused on my lad. At least once a month for a spell of five days roughly he gets into a really bad rut and he’s having one recently. He tells me I don’t spend enough time with him and my son (I come home from work and I’m there, I’m not off gallivanting), he tells me I didn’t do enough when I was off, that I just pawned my son onto him when he came back from work. I said I was depressed, and it wasn’t true. He tells me I was never depressed. He tells me we don’t do anything, I can’t understand that as we socialise a lot and I give examples to which he bats off and tells me I still don’t do enough. He tells me how easy my life is, because he does everything (not true), he says I’m a liar, I ask him about what and he brings up something so random which to you and me, wouldn’t make sense. I suppose an example would be the cleaner. When I try to justify myself he gets more emotional and nit picky till basically I don’t say anything but sit there crying. I tell him he’s a bully, not in an aggressive manner but just because I feel like he is. He tells me he needs to “put his foot down with me” and makes me feel tiny.

Sometimes he’ll say whats wrong, and I can never ever be bothered to say actually you make me so sad, but if I do – he explodes. Nothing I do is good enough, no matter how hard I try, nothing is enough. He never tells me really when he is getting his kids but its normally once a month. Last night, in front of a friend he said he was picking the kids up Saturday, I said that’s great but bit short to be dropping them off on Sunday to which he said he was having them to the following Sunday. In front of a friend there was nothing I could say, he knew it. Later I said I can’t afford to feed us, my son, petrol to and from work yada yada and on top of that feed them, plus give money for them to do things throughout the day. I asked why, he said he just wants them for that long. I can’t say anything without seems like a complete c**t can I. Anyway it’s just another thing I have to suck up.

I’m sorry for my long winded message, there’s so much more and I could be typing for hours!! I feel like I should leave him, but he has no job, nowhere to go etc.

I feel so lonely, as my family think he's great, my friends do but I am just lost. If I talk to him, it never ever works sad xxx

OP posts:
BackInTheRoom · 07/02/2018 13:10

Hi @bumbleme03

You feel that if only you could get him to understand right?!

I think these are called Circular Conversations' because they go around and around.

Did you look at site in the link I posted?

Huntinginthedark · 07/02/2018 13:16

You need to stop engaging and hoping that he’s going to give you a different answer and work out how to get the fuck out of there without him killing you

Someone I know was murdered in this way.
Murdered as in dead. As in children with a dead mother. Children living with their aunt because they’re mother is DEAD

XJerseyGirlX · 07/02/2018 13:42

Oh gosh, you poor girl. I don't believe at all he did that in his sleep. And if he did then whats stopping him doing that to your son if he isn't awake?

Please get awak from him, call womans aid and go on the freedom programme. Love and life isn't supposed to be like this.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 07/02/2018 14:24

Now that you have spoken to him I am even more worried about you and your situation.

Please, please, please get just get a bag, pack enough clothes for you and your son for a few days and just get the hell out. Go to your parents (or just stay in a hotel if you can afford it). Take passports/paperwork with you and a laptop or your phone. Then you will have the headspace to work out your next steps.

You cannot stay in danger with him.

Do NOT tell him what you are doing, do not tell him where you are going. You can sort out access arrangements etc in the future.

Please just go. Now.

Meandmy4 · 11/02/2018 01:18

Hi op ,
How are you ? Hows the weekend going ? 💐

Florallee · 11/02/2018 05:36

Please get out, while you still can Flowers

MiddleClassProblem · 11/02/2018 06:23

Hope you’re ok. There are some brilliant MN posters who can advise you on how to leave/get him to leave. Thinking of you x

S0ph1a · 11/02/2018 07:46

You need to stop engaging and hoping that he’s going to give you a different answer and work out how to get the fuck out of there without him killing you . Someone I know was murdered in this way

Me too. And it’s not the same woman.

Have you contacted womens aid? Please do so and make a plan.

STOP TALKING to your partner about your relatationship. DO NOT disucss your thoughts or plans with him. Go grey rock ( google it ).

I’m sorry to shout at you but I’m not sure you realise how dangerous he is to you and your baby.

Fishface77 · 11/02/2018 07:53

Get real life support and get out.

bumbleme03 · 15/02/2018 20:16

Hi everybody, thank you again for the kind words and support. I have spent the week feeding and supporting his children. I'm now in a dilemma, he's injured his ankle due to rugby and he wants me to take him to meet his ex to drop them off this weekend. It's money, it's money that I simply can nil afford, what do I do? She could easily come here as she's in a city about an hour away (normally is about a five hour drive). Am I wrong to think that she, no matter how much of a tricky conversation this may be for him, is OK? My dad had offered but he's super poorly.

OP posts:
BackInTheRoom · 15/02/2018 20:42

I wouldn't drop them off because a) he's a dick, b) he's a massive dick and c) he's a mahoosive dick and you've shelled out enough money already. However, he'll give you such a shit time for not helping.

You had any more thoughts about the future OP?

Lilymossflower · 15/02/2018 20:56

Even without the horrendous physical abuse he is a horrendous emotional abuser. Things sound like they have been so hard for you! I hope you can move him out of your house and your life or smoothly move out into your own place with your baby without him. He may say all sorts of stuff about keeping the child for himself but honestly, it wouldn't be safe and any one involved such as the police etc should support you. Xx bless and love xx well done so much for coming here! Xx

Nikkiandbump1 · 15/02/2018 21:17

You are much too good for a man like that. Let him find his own way, you go find yours with your little one.

trojanpony · 16/02/2018 07:03

I was open mouthed reading this you need to leave this man immediately.

He is a violent remorseless dangerous bully

You are living a half life and this will only get worse

What if he’d punched you baby in the face he did to you?

Teabay · 16/02/2018 07:21

If you said you cannot go because you don't have the money, would he give you the money? Is it for petrol?
When his children are gone, please go to your parents, with a bag, and sleep on their sofa for safety whilst you make an appointment with women's aid.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 16/02/2018 07:27

I'm now in a dilemma, he's injured his ankle

OP - often when narcissistic abusers start to realise that their victims are seeing things straight an injury occurs in order to put them back at the centre of victimhood. It is a tactic. And a well known one.

You need to get this abuser out of your house any way you can.

RidingWindhorses · 16/02/2018 08:16

The strangulation and punching puts you in the high risk category of da. You can kill someone in a few minutes by strangling, which he knows from his army training. And even if it doesn't kill you it can cause brain damage which can take days or weeks to manifest. Always see a doctor when you've been choked.

So you need to start thinking about how you can get away from him safely.

RidingWindhorses · 16/02/2018 08:17

And call Women's Aid.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 16/02/2018 09:18

Why are you still there? Why have you not left?

The advice from everywhere here is leave. Leave now. Get away from him! You and your child are in serious danger and you're faffing around feeding his children and ferrying them around!?

We cannot help you if you won't help yourself.

BigSandyBalls2015 · 16/02/2018 09:30

This is really difficult to read, you sound lovely and you need to get away from this dreadful man asap.

You say your parents really like him. How did they react when you said your facial injuries were caused by him 'asleep'.

bumbleme03 · 16/02/2018 11:01

@GreenFingersWouldBeHandy I know, you're totally right that I need to help myself, it's so nice to talk with you all and just having you guys being here means so much and it's helping me think more logically.

@Bibbidee hahaha that did make me hoot, and I don't know if I have really, I suppose I've not had the opportunity but I did try to talk to my parents. I told them how hard it's been as of late and said how much stress I was under with him. They said that he's going through a difficult transition time etc, but they said he's a fantastic dad and just give it time.

@S0ph1a I googled Grey Rock, and first of all got wine (awesome) but read a really interesting article about it and I think I'm going to start trying it next week. I think it's correct that the more "grey" I am, the quicker he'll get bored and turn his attention elsewhere. Thank you for that.

OP posts:
S0ph1a · 16/02/2018 11:38

Can I just check - you told your parents how violent your husband has been and they said to stay because he’s a great dad ???

Ubercornsdiscoball · 16/02/2018 11:42

Get out of there

bumbleme03 · 16/02/2018 11:54

@S0ph1a they knew about what he did in his sleep yes, and I told them he bullies me all the time but I think they reckon I'm just being silly about it all. xx

OP posts:
GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 16/02/2018 12:17

bumble so sorry you did not get more support from your parents. That is really weird, no wonder you asked if you were being silly in your original post. (I hope we have all reassured you that you are not being silly!)

Keep talking to us, we are all still here but just very concerned for your safety and a bit confused as to why you don't leave or try and get him out of your house.

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