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It's over because of his family

55 replies

Maybeshewasntbornwithit · 06/01/2018 00:39

That's it. After 10 years and a DC it's finished. I feel ashamed and like a failure.

It has come to an end because of my in-laws. Brother in law has been nasty about our DC since birth. The first instance was when his DC arrived and I asked what their exotic middle name meant, he replied 'superior to your dc'. I was upset but laughed at the embarrassment, this was in a room full of in-laws who all heard and no one said anything. From there it's been up and down but constant put downs about my dc.
Forward on a few years, this Christmas we went to see parents in law. Our DC is old enough now to understand everything (school age). Boxing day was horrid, mil made big fuss of the in-laws DC and almost ignored our DC, this has been the case for a while and DC doesn't bother that much with her, pretty much accepts it. DC tried to play with the cousin, ended up in the cousin just constantly taking toys away and not sharing, normal kid stuff. However when DC tried to do the same it wasn't accepted. We didn't intervene.
The next day we were due to see in-laws, DC had a meltdown refusing to see them, absolutely did not want to go. The brother in law had called him a gremlin on boxing day, DC said he didn't like him and didn't want to see any of them.

Forward on to the next day, we all go out for a day, very much as two separate groups rather than a family, end up in a restaurant where in-laws child appears to point and laugh at DC, leads to DC getting upset. At an activity, I sat away from family DH stayed with them and DC, eventually DC comes back to me looking sad and says they aren't talking to him and ignoring him, he's a very confident child who likes to play by himself so not demanding attention, but likes to be social, it is unusual for him to be this upset by something. I tell him not to worry and we sit and watch together.

The next day, brother in law etc decide to visit. DC seems excited by this, so I write off all previous as he's ok and obviously isn't that bothered by them. An hour into the visit again the cousin (in-laws DC) gets their toys and plays, not letting our DC join in, he's ok with that and proceeds to get one of his Christmas gifts out to play with, cousin then decided they wanted to play with that, DC at this point loses it at it being unfair that cousin doesn't let him play with anything and now wants to play with this. DC takes himself into another room to sit and refuses to come out until they have gone.

Now, I've friends in rl who know the complete history of this and one has gone as far to say in-laws treatment of DC over the years is pretty much bullying/emotional abuse. DC said he doesn't want to see them anymore. I told DH he needs to confront, DC is aware now of how they treat him and he isn't happy with it.

DH decided to complain about my family, after apparently confronting mil. She is nasty and has never liked me (thinks no one is good enough for her darling boys) and I believe has now turned him against me for protecting my dc. I do not know what to do. DH is threatening all sorts. He's getting a solicitor, and apparently I won't win this war. I'm sorry, this isn't making much sense I'm just so shocked that DH appears to be giving his family priority over our DC. I needed to vent, I need to hear an independent view, I did say I do not want in-laws seeing DC until they sort out their ideas of how they treat him. I removed all from social media as I couldn't face mil making comments on in-laws adorable child whilst ignoring mine...I just don't know what to do now?

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Twogoround · 06/01/2018 00:44

You have DH problem sady he is mother boy but not the favourite which us why your kids are getting short changed

Fishface77 · 06/01/2018 00:48

How old is your child?
How long has this been going on and why haven't you stopped it sooner?
Your DH is useless and no loss in this case. Tell the mummy's boy man child to go and live with her and that you don't want a wimpy piece of shit as your life partner anyway.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 06/01/2018 00:53

Which war will he win? Do you mean a divorce or do you mean you and DC going NC with his family?

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 06/01/2018 00:54

Yep the problem is your DH, the whole "you will not win" sounds like What his mother has said to him, instead of going, great mum but we're DS' parents, you can get a socilitor but it will actually just make us stronger in our decision has come back because he's to weak to argue with his mother and brother and repeated it all to you.

SandyY2K · 06/01/2018 00:57

Your poor son. How awful for him.

DunedinGirl · 06/01/2018 00:59

I'd absolutely class their behaviour as bullying and/or abusive.

I wouldn't want my child anywhere near them and your husband should be supporting you on this. I'd be talking to a solicitor.

MrsBonato · 06/01/2018 01:00

Dc is 4, and since DC was 3 months. DC has been called fat as a baby, constant put downs about his appearance i.e likened to Shrek. Been deliberately pushed out by in-laws, this year again DC and I received a joint card, DH got his own card from them.

DH hates my father, and constantly refers back to their relationship over what his family do to DC. My father wasn't too happy because DH buggered off on a week holiday to mil when I was 8 months pregnant and because I was apparently contacting DH too much on this trip the mil spent a night texting me exactly what she thought of me. The next day I had high blood pressure and was admitted to hospital whilst DH was a 13 hour train journey away. DH works away a lot anyway, so my father has heavy involvement with my dc as a support for me. DH hates this, but won't change it so he could be at home more.

There is a lot of history here.

TemptressofWaikiki · 06/01/2018 01:03

Op, you're wonderful for looking out for your DC. So sorry that your DH appears to be so disloyal.

ReanimatedSGB · 06/01/2018 01:14

I'd suggest getting rid of H and cutting his family out completely. Your poor DS and poor you.

Maybeshewasntbornwithit · 06/01/2018 01:21

He's being so unreasonable that at the moment staying together isn't an option. He has always had a temper and we have got over a lot. I have put a lot into our relationship and fought for it but this, with our son, I just can't.

What I'm struggling with is his threats about our son, how a judge will tell me it's me who is wrong etc.

I can't face being apart from my son, DH is away so much that all of my time is spent with DS and to suddenly think he won't be around all the time is so upsetting especially as DH isn't even willing to stick up for him over his family who appear like they can't stand him.

DS wasn't planned, DH didn't want him and even discussed a termination, so to be threatened with the access thing when all I've done is refused for him to continue being bullied by family, is extremely upsetting

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StaplesCorner · 06/01/2018 01:24

So Maybe has your DH left your home now? Who owns the house, and do you have support in RL? can you see a solicitor next week?

Maybeshewasntbornwithit · 06/01/2018 01:29

I own the home. He is home, separate bedrooms tonight and tomorrow I will be leaving for the day. DS is already upset at this but I fear if I stay it will be continuous arguments and him just insulting me, also that he will use that I stopped him from having time with DS.

Some support, my father, but he will not be happy at all and if I tell him I know it'll have to be final, as I say him and h already have a strained relationship.

Some friends close by, my best friend thinks I should have left him a long time ago, as I say a lot of history and I have fought hard to keep us together. I grew up with separated parents and never wanted the same for my ds.

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StaplesCorner · 06/01/2018 01:42

Ok well that's a start, and I agree with your best friend. Please see a solicitor next week; personally I'd ask him to leave to allow some breathing space but regardless, get proper legal advice.

ferrier · 06/01/2018 01:56

Not wanting to put a spanner in the works (as pp I think it's time to leave) but of your oh is a dh and not a dp then your home is jointly owned.

ferrier · 06/01/2018 01:57

if

Fatso1978 · 06/01/2018 02:00

If he is your Partner you can kick him out if you own the own by yourself. If you are married to him he has every right to stay.

If I were you I would not be leaving tomorrow, with him in your house. You don't know what he could do.

He can't take your son from you. If he is working away all the time, at best he'll get every other weekend.

Just document everything. All finances etc.

DO NOT leave your home. Kick him out if he only a partner.

Maybeshewasntbornwithit · 06/01/2018 02:09

I don't plan on kicking him out. He will be gone early hours of Monday anyway and won't be returning until Saturday. Also I know it will escalate things even more as he has his whole family behind him.

Text best friend, she says he's all hot air, took him years to get a doctor, other crucial things like up to date paperwork, at one point I had to call the home office to check he was ok to work still, old job sent him home for two days because of an expired passport, out of date driving license etc etc. So she has at least reassured me that he will only be seeing a solicitor after he's received a letter from mine unless his mother arrives and does it for him.

For now I just wish Monday would hurry up so I can get on with mine and DS normal happy life.

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Alibobbob · 06/01/2018 02:32

My worry would be that if you split up and your husband has alone time with your son he will wimp off to Mummy’s and your poor son will have nobody looking out for him.

How old is your son?

Did you keep the text from his mother?

Maybeshewasntbornwithit · 06/01/2018 02:43

MIL lives a long way away, involves flying as the quickest route.

Texts were just before DS was born so 4 years ago. I do keep all my old phones and have them. I also saw a solicitor shortly after for advice because of the threats being made then.

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DarkPeakScouter · 06/01/2018 02:56

So are you married and did you have a prenup as if not he has a claim on the house

Changedname3456 · 06/01/2018 07:41

I think you’ll probably have to accept that you’ll lose a proportion of the house value. Possibly half, possibly less if the judge decides you need it to provide stability for your DS.

I do think, in this situation, that separating and then divorcing is probably the only real option. As PP have said, if he works away a lot then it’s likely he’ll get weekends at best, more likely eow with a Friday night and half the holidays.

It’s very, very unlikely he’d get the majority of access and he certainly wouldn’t get the Court’s blessing to relocate to wherever his MIL lives, if that’s what he/she are threatening.

Unfortunately you’re not going to be able to stop him taking DS to see his extended family in the holidays etc, but at least you’ll be giving him stability the rest of the time. I’m sorry, for you both, that your DH can’t see the effect his brother and mother are having on his son.

Bananamanfan · 06/01/2018 07:57

Does your MIL live in another country? I would see a solictor about whether you can prevent your dh taking him out of the country. My exh constantly threatened applying for custody, but after a while he wasn't even interested enough to stick to his weekends. Carry on doing your best for ds. Doesn't sound like your H has his well being at heart.

Maybeshewasntbornwithit · 06/01/2018 08:28

We are married. The money side of it really doesn't bother me, as much as I think he's a total shit for this behaviour I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't be making a claim on the house. He knows if he wants to get to me it'll be via our ds and painting me and my family to be awful.

Can I really not stop in-laws seeing DS? This upsets me because they will carry on treating him like that and when he says he doesn't want to see them anymore I know he means that.
We are NC with my own mother, not because of anything to do with DS, she was nice to him, just her treatment of me, so she doesn't see him for a lot less than what in-laws have done directly to him.

Mil is in the same country but literally we are at the complete opposite ends.
She has suggested to h to get custody before, as I said things weren't good just before DS birth, he was born by emergency c section and near Christmas, we were expected to go to family hometown a few hours away to all see each other, I couldn't drive due to c section and as before h has an expired license. 3 weeks post c section the in-laws paid for a taxi for DH to go and stay with his family over Xmas, I was upset, said I was still sore after c section and just wanted support, he told this to his mother she claimed I was making excuses and if I couldn't cope then he should go for custody of ds. So he left and I didn't complain because I didn't want anymore hassle. This is what it's always been, I basically put up with whatever they want and if I don't I'm threatened with my ds.

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Fishface77 · 06/01/2018 09:10

Fuck him.
Avusive cunt.

OnTheRise · 06/01/2018 09:23

He's allowing his mother to abuse you, OP.

You need to speak to a solicitor to find out what your rights are. But if your OH frequently goes away to work I doubt he'd get full custody--especially when you factor in the abuse your DS faces at his family's hands. Also, how old is your DS? Because once children are a little older their views are taken into account, so if he said he didn't want to see his grandparents, or that he wanted to live with you, the judge would listen to him.