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PILS - How can I stop all this helping out without looking like the bad guy?

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WanderingJules · 29/12/2017 13:07

My dh is the youngest of 2 sons.

DBIL is the favoured son, can do no wrong, but doesn’t help his parents out with anything, always an excuse. So, if PILS want a lift somewhere which is often, somehow DBILS car isn’t available at the time, his wife has gone out in it. They only live around the corner from PILS, we live 5 miles away.

The requests for lifts are asked long before the event, so we know it’s been done deliberately. When dh gives them lifts, it’s in my car, which she hates, and says so, but it is practical. She wants a lift in dh’s car, which is ‘posh’ as she calls it, but impractical.

My dh is less favoured, yet has been lumped with, yes you’ve guessed it, all the helping out. The lifts, help with online shopping etc, yet his parents consistently talk down to him, and if I make it obvious I can see what’s going on (calling them out on it) then I’m the bad guy. They also know I went NC with my toxic parents 2 years ago, which has made them a bit hostile towards me anyway.

Xmas Day was spent in a miserable tone, listening to his dm talk down to us, talking about her intolerance to black and gay people, fat shaming people, how slim she is, hated the fact that I ate less than her as I don’t like sprouts or stuffing, so I had less on my plate. So upset was she, that she had to leave a lot on her plate to make a point 🙄.

So anyway what really upset me most on Xmas was when dh brought up the time he had testicular cancer. (This happened four years back, which was an horrendous time as you can imagine, but his cancer turned out to be easily treatable).

He’d only mentioned it as he’d just had his f/up at Christie’s a couple of days before, and to confirm all went well. Cue much eye rolling from MIL. “Oh that again. Well, It’s gone now (shrugs shoulders) and I know such n such who had it worse than you. Also such n such up the road. And mrs Jones ex son in law from 20 years ago had it worse than you, and next doors cat also”. I mean ok, it was treatable, he was liucky, but at the time, it was a dark period for us, but our feelings about it totally dismissed.

Everything dh does or says gets shot down in flames or dismissed, his type of music, where we live etc whereas DBIL is put on a pedestal and doesn’t help out. Sorry, I’m repeating myself.

And I’ve had enough. I hate seeing him try to extricate any interest out of her, and not get anything in return, yet is expected to help out with everything. FIL had a stroke a few years ago, which has rendered him disabled, a word she uses at every opportunity, so he can’t\won’t say anything, just lets her carry on. As you can imagine, things are going to get tougher as they get older and dh is going to suffer.

I know after reading many posts that it’s a situation dh has to sort as it’s his family, but I know he daren’t say anything.

I don’t expect him to go NC like me, but I hate seeing how they are, and even when I call them on it, they carry on. They are nasty.
How can I get them to see that DBIL needs to step up too. And dh to step down? Sorry for the long post.

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Lexieellie · 01/01/2018 17:14

I don't think anything will change. Just focus on your happiness with your DH. If PIL are negative and put you down then don't visit them. This is probably something your husband has unfortunately grown up with but never realised / blindly accepted being bullied but all of his family.

Some parents alway have the "golden child" and no matter what your husband does, if they favour his brother over him he will still be treated differently.

My PILs are the same and I got tired of challenging them when they pick on DH. I could have posted this. I don't think you will win here.

WanderingJules · 01/01/2018 20:23

@Lexie: I agree. I won’t win.
I’m going to have to keep my eye on this from afar. It’s truly heartbreaking to see it going on.
I’ve always seen the dynamic in a way, but it couldn’t have been made any more clearer than on Xmas Day.
What gets me is that I went NC with my parents because of something said to me by them on Xmas Day two years ago.
I am sorry that this has happened to your dh. Awful 💐

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WanderingJules · 01/01/2018 20:29

@Pilar: I’m finding myself asking for reassurance of his love for me now, because of what she might do.

I am determined to work that bit harder to make him know how much I love him too, that she has a battle on her hands if she tries to turn him against me.
I wouldn’t mind, but on the outside, she looks like an little innocent old lady.

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WanderingJules · 01/01/2018 20:31

And I’m beginning to hate Xmas Day.

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WanderingJules · 04/03/2018 16:05

Update: DBIL has started helping out with parents needs now, which is good.

It came up in a conversation on Friday night about his parents for some reason. I said I’m still upset about the situation, and he he said he can’t understand why MIL is like this. I reiterated that I won’t go round again, and he said don’t let it get to you, then changed the subject.

The thing is, I’m just so sad and empty. I feel I went one step ahead with regards to NC my parents, but 10 steps behind now with his parents.
I feel like I did when I was still in touch with mine.
Like the horrible feelings of sadness I have, and constantly overthinking things, have been transferred from my parents to his, that they are carrying on the abuse.
I’m trying to be happy and work at the msrriage, but I keep looking at dh and feeling nothing but emptiness and tears.
I didn’t expect his parents to be supportive, but I didn’t expect this.

I feel I’m made to feel guilty for going NC, but I had had enough of feeling guilty as it is, with my parents.

I think dh is a bit different towards me too, in some ways. I keep seeing in my mind, him and his family, when he goes round, all sitting in judgement. He’s like a nodding frightened child with them, agreeing to keep the peace. So that’s all of them against me, then.
I keep looking at property in the paper, seeing what I could afford to move to, should I move out. Yet, if I do, they’ve won.
Not sure where to go with this. So sorry, had to get this out of my system.

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Blushingm · 04/03/2018 17:33

Sorry your dh sounds like a bit of a door mat - either he stands up for himself and you or you get rid or the resentment will just grow

WanderingJules · 04/03/2018 17:49

Resentment is exactly how I feel @Blushingm.
I resent the fact he has the best of both worlds really, he has his family and me, even though his family manipulate him.
I see he is trying to keep the peace, but by doing this, he is enabling them to:

A: be hostile to me
B to continue to manipulate him.

Maybe I’m being a bit harsh about him having the best of both worlds, he is between a rock and a hard place, but then, so am I. Between him and his parents.

I know I should change my reaction to this, thought I was doing well trying to jolly along the marriage, and let things go that I cannot change, but lately it’s just hit me again like a sledgehammer.

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 04/03/2018 17:55

It's not a competition.

I keep looking at property in the paper, seeing what I could afford to move to, should I move out. Yet, if I do, they’ve won.

What do you need to do to be happy? Let's assume everyone else carries on being the same as they always are. What can you do to make yourself happier? Ignore how it might make others feel: happy, sad, smug, distraught. What do you need?

WanderingJules · 04/03/2018 18:23

Good question@Run. At the moment, short term, I need to keep a distance between myself and his parents. Luckily I”ve only seen them once since Xmas. Long term..... I don’t know.

I don’t want my marriage to end, that’s for sure.

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WanderingJules · 04/03/2018 18:35

I need dh and I to put each other first. For us to say no every now and again. To look after each other. I need him to validate my feelings to his parents.

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 04/03/2018 19:07

Your first of those two posts was reality. Things within your control.

The second was a little fantasy post. Nothing to do with reality. Of no more use than a post listing what you'd do if you won the lottery or woke up tomorrow with laser vision.

Can you convert the second to something real that is within your own control?

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