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Is it my fault ? Should I move in with him ? Or end it once and for all ?

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piginthemiddle · 11/12/2017 01:31

Need some things put into perspective Mumsnetters.

My DS dad really wants us to move in together. We are both 24. He wants us to settle down officially and make a go of it, to move on from the past, let go and look forward to the future. Sounds great ? My heart is telling me to go for it, give DS dad a proper chance to be a dad...be family and him taking a part, fully, in DS care. However, my head is telling me, no, that I might as well give up on life. He also mentioned to me that it's my fault that things are the way they now are...not living together, being stuck in the past. He even asked me "What good did you get from staying at your Aunty's house". I replied to him that "I got a degree ". Something I wouldn't achieve if I lived with him.

These are my reason why I'm cautious to make a go of things and "let go".

  1. DS dad and I got together in our early teens, not long after that DS was born. He was highly abusive, in every aspect. You name it, sexually, physically, emotionally. Social services were in and out of mine and, my then, young son's life. He asked me to move with him then but I couldn't. He was abusive, I knew I would make a huge mistake in living him. I also didn't want DS to grow up in that abusive environment. Thankfully, he is not like this anymore, social services were happy with the supervised visits, his allowed to see DS unsupervised and SS are no longer involved.


  1. He smokes weed. I know a few Mumsnetters on here who have no issues with weed. But DS dad smokes it too much. When we used to stay over at DS's dad in the past. I use to hate waking up in the morning to smell that foul weed smoke. I also don't want DS to be brought up in a house where he can smell or see his dad smoking a spliff.


  1. His not a "man" or a "father". I can't picture him when DS reaches his teenage years and giving him mature/ adult advice. Plus, his a bit childish... a minor example...DS really wants a Nintendo DS for Christmas, DS dad said he "will get him a PS4", I told him " Well DS wants other things for Christmas, he doesn't want a PS4". DS dad replied "Well..he will once I buy it for him". Can you see ? DS dad doesn't think about DS wants. He only wants to get PS4 for DS (which I highly doubt he will get anyway) as it's something he would want to buy for himself (even though he has one). ifyswim.


  1. We don't live together. But he doesn't support DS at all. Not financially, emotionally, doesn't see DS unless for special occasions..e.g. Birthdays, Christmas, Easter, School plays. He now has his own place..2 hours away, he tells me "DS can't stay over yet as he still has to sort out his house". DS has only stayed over there once. Makes many excuses not to support his child, such as "is on benefits and has bills to pay "...he's now working but again using the same excuse " I have bills to pay, when you live by yourself then you would know what I'm talking about". Due to us having DS young, he got kicked out from his parents house and was homeless for quite a few years ( I helped him tremendously during this period). He reckons that his done "all of this" for DS and doesn't want to give up everything for DS again Confused. DS is very into football and he hasn't taken DS to his football classes or even kicked around with a ball in the park. His excuse is " I'm not into football". Well neither am I, but I take DS to his football classes, tournaments because it's his interests.


  1. Makes me feel like shit. He came to an event, which DS was participating in. He told me that the receptionist flirted with him and said " I can't believe DS is your son, he's a very handsome boy" to which DS dad replied " Yes, he got it from me" and she said "Yes, I can see that". Sad.

We were in the store with DS and he eyed up this woman and turned his head to stare at her. When we walked out from the shop. He then proclaimed that " he forgot to buy something". Which the real reason was so that he can check out this woman some more, as she was in the store. He tells me that I dress too posh and act like it too.

  1. Wants to have sex too much. Honestly, if I officially moved in with him. He would want sex at least 3 times a day. As a result, I fear I may end up with loads of kids with little to no support.


All that being said. DS dad wants us to have another go for a relationship, but this time move in together. Sort of like.... I don't know if any of you watch Eastenders and seen the Lauren and Steven's story-line. But DS dad is like Steven, where he wants to settle down and like (Lauren) who isn't too sure.

What would you Mums netters do ? Should I forget what happened in the past ? Should I go for it ? Is it my fault, like DS dad had said, that the reason why the way things are is because of me?

In honesty. I think this is a bad idea. I'm 24, I really don't want to end up in this revolving cycle and not move on from DS dad till I'm about 50. But, I don't know what to do. Should we try again ? Should I accept his proposal ?
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Shoxfordian · 11/12/2017 05:23

Don't even think of letting him move in with you! He's abusive and he will be abusive to you again. He is a horrible example of a "man".

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cleanandtidyhouse · 11/12/2017 05:34

This guy won't make you happy or be a good dad. You're already doing great things without him. You've got a degree whilst raising a child on your own. That's seriously impressive. Don't mess up this brilliant achievement. Keep going. Do your thing. Raise your son. You will meet someone great.

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Iris65 · 11/12/2017 05:35

Abusers do not change without a sincere commitment to long term therapy and a structured programme supervised by an experienced mentor.

If you move in you will regret it and your DS will be damaged.

You would not be asking if you did not already know this.

People in good relationships do not post lists of abuse or search the internet for justification to continue their relationship.

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Sullabylullaby · 11/12/2017 05:36

If you were to buy the most expensive haute cuisine cookery book and look up a recipe for 'A Complete and utter disaster on a plate', you would find moving in with him right there in the instructions.
Please don't even consider it. In fact, go completely the opposite direction and finish with him.

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Rainbowqueeen · 11/12/2017 05:37

Your child is involved in this. Your innocent vulnerable child.

You owe this man nothing, certainly not a chance to spend every day with your child in your home. The only person you owe is your child and yourself. What is in your best interests? What is in your child's best interests?

He can be a great dad without living with you. He can spend more time with DS without living with you.

And things might change. When he is acting like a great dad, one that supports his child financially and emotionally and puts his child first then you could reassess. But at the moment I don't see anything but misery for you if you move in with him

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rizlett · 11/12/2017 05:39

It sounds like f you move in with him you might risk losing your ds to social services.

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devondream · 11/12/2017 05:41

"He makes me feel like shit".

Please please do not restart your relationship.

I say this as someone who survived an shitty abusive 15 year relationship but escaped.
Please do not believe moving together will help - his abusiveness will worsen and ramp up.

You deserve so very much more. There are wonderful men out there who will NEVER make you feel like shit. You deserve one.

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Hobbitch · 11/12/2017 05:44

You can let go of the past if you want (in this case you shouldn't). But just look at the present and it should be enough to convince you not to resume your relationship with him. The guy is an abysmal father, a sex pest and an emotional abuser. He doesn't sound nearly mature enough to be a good dad and a supportive, loving partner. There are much better men out there who contribute to the household, share parenting duties and respect their partner - aim for that instead.

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Booie09 · 11/12/2017 05:44

Try and think what kind of life you want for you and your child! Do you want one where your son grows up seeing his dad being abusive to you and maybe him or a life where he sees his mum being happy and has a feeling of safety and security! Do you want your child to live a life of fear!! Keep away.

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Somersetter · 11/12/2017 05:52

Just think how well you've done without him - raising your son, and getting a degree as a single mum.

He will drag you down and you and your ds will be so much worse off. Please don't do this - put your ds (and yourself) first.

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laudanum · 11/12/2017 05:55

He is never going to change, ever ever ever. God no, run as far away from him as you can, don't look back. Please listen to what others are telling you, don't expose yourself or your son to this man for a moment longer.

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OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 11/12/2017 06:08

Everything ^ with knobs on.
You ask what you can give your son when he's a teen? Well you keep showing him how an adult behaves, you provide a stable, unabusive, respectful role model so he grows up to model your behaviour. You let this dick into your life and he will turn out like him. You both deserve so much better.

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Fairylea · 11/12/2017 06:24

Run for the hills. Why on earth would you even consider moving in with him?! The first point alone - he used to abuse you- is enough to say no. Everything is wrong about this man.

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CryptoFascist · 11/12/2017 06:25

I agree wholeheartedly with all the other posters.
You sound amazing and hats off to you for doing an amazing job with your son and getting a degree at the same time.
You’re right, you wouldn’t have achieved that if you’d been living with this idiot.
You’re an intelligent person and you know he’ll drag you and your son down.
Living with you, your son has a chance to be like you, to be raised with your values and work ethic.
Living with him, he would have a whole new influence. Do you want him to think disrespecting his mum is normal?
Very seriously, if you move in with him social services would want to know about it given the history of abuse. You don’t need to do this to your boy. Carry on giving him the best chance in life as you have been successfully doing so far.
Don’t jeapordise your sons life for the sake of this fool.

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AdalindSchade · 11/12/2017 06:28

Why should you let go of the past? You shouldn't. There is absolutely no good reason to stay with this man and definitely nothing in favour of moving in with him.

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123MothergotafleA · 11/12/2017 06:36

I hope you do the right thing now and start running for the hills.
No child should be exposed to such a scary man as this. He is a father in name only.

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Iloveacurry · 11/12/2017 06:55

He sounds awful. Please don’t get back with him.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 11/12/2017 07:00

No you should not try again and no you should not accept his proposal.

He wants you around only so that he can abuse you and in turn your son again. He wants to drag you down with him into his pit, such men do not change. Your most precious resource, your child, should not be at all subjected to this person either.

You cannot love him better, rescue or save someone like this; he is the ways he is because of him. It is not your fault in any way he is the ways he is.

Your boundaries seem also pretty much shot here in any case by even considering this mad idea. I would suggest that you enrol on Womens Aid's Freedom Programme pronto and have counselling to unlearn all the crap you have learnt about relationships to date.

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Dancinggoat · 11/12/2017 07:05

Your past will be your future if you move in with him.

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GeekyWombat · 11/12/2017 07:08

Don’t do it. You’ve come so far. There’s still more you’re aiming for in terms of your living situation etc but you can achieve these things without his help.

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Cupoteap · 11/12/2017 07:10

There is not a single benefit to you or your son moving in with him and restarting a relationship.

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HermioneIsMe · 11/12/2017 07:16

PLEASE DO NOT MOVE IN WITH THIS MAN.

Not once have you mentioned that you love him.
But several times, you have mentioned how shit he is, as a father and as a (potential) partner.

He will make your life hell again.

He is still abusive and has no care about others, just himself.
See, He is still making you the person responsible for everything. And making you doubt yourself.

Yes you need to let go of the past. By not contacting him ever about anything else than your ds. And by finding a nice guy that will be kind and caring. One that will allow you to make a fantastic life for yourself.

JUST CUT THE TIES.

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Quartz2208 · 11/12/2017 07:16

It would be the worse thing you could do for both of you. You know he doesn’t want to be a dad at all just wants you there for sex

Break it off, he has conditioned you to thinking it’s your fault but it’s not

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HermioneIsMe · 11/12/2017 07:17

And YY about counselling and the Freedom program.

That’s the thing thaytnwill help you let go of the past. To REALLY let go of the past (and of him at the same time!)

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harrietm87 · 11/12/2017 07:18

Don't do it OP. He sounds awful. If he wants to be a better dad he can (a) pay child support and (b) spend time with his son. If he's not willing to do these things why in hell would you give him a chance?! It sounds like you've been an amazing mum so far, don't ruin it now by making this terrible mistake.

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