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I need you to share your reaction to the way my ex treated me

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Iris65 · 27/11/2017 09:08

I am struggling to stop missing my ex and I keep finding ways to explain away his behaviour and minimise his abuse. It really helps to hear other peoples’ reaction to the way that he treated me so please share your thoughts and feelings about my experiences:

……… when we travelled he told me not to speak Dutch or German because it sounded horrible, then telling me that I ‘had stepped over the line’ if I defended myself. Talking about how awful my family are at the dining table in his brother’s home on the very first time that I met him and his extended family. The time that he told me after a brief conversation I had in German with a hotel owner that my attempts to speak German were embarrassing and that no one liked hearing their language mangled by the way that I spoke it.

………after meeting my son for dinner he told me that I talked too much, was attention-seeking and that my son and his partner thought that I was boring and stupid. The New Year’s lunch with my son that he ruined because beforehand he decided that I should tell them how awful my childhood was. I tried to explain that it was not the right time or place, that it was mine to discuss, but he refused to listen and threatened to tell them himself if I didn’t. I arrived at the restaurant with bloodshot eyes and a puffy face from crying and spent the meal anxious that he was going to bring it all up. Of course he didn’t.

…………all of the times that he ignored my needs: the two 10 hour trips that should have been 3 hours to save £300 when he had almost a quarter of a million in the bank and a salary 10 times more than the monthly bills; the 1.5 mile walk from the bus stop after those trips because he would not get a taxi. All of that occurring during a weekend before and after which I had been at work in a hard, stressful job and with his full knowledge of my serious health problems. The refusal to buy me a cup of tea at the airport because according to him I didn’t need it. Asking me why? whenever I mentioned feeling ill or tired. Returning from my Dad’s funeral after a 300 mile round trip to find nothing done and the kitchen dirty. He stayed in his chair and barely glanced up when I came in, not even bothering offer to make me a drink, let alone ask me how I was or how it had gone.

……….that he refused to write a will or make any provision for me if he died when we discussed the future. That what happened after his death was ‘my problem’ and if his family inherited his estate then ‘they were nice people’ and would look after me. His dismissing my need for security as of no account by refusing to reply when I pointed out that at if he died I would be heartbroken and dealing with his death at the same time as facing the loss of my home and financial insecurity. That he knew how much I wanted to marry him and said ‘You’d like that wouldn’t you.’ with a sly smile when he said that we would marry if it meant that he could stay in the UK following Brexit, while refusing to consider it for my sake.

…………..his refusing to celebrate birthdays, Christmas, Valentines day or anniversaries because they were meaningless; regardless of how I felt. His refusal to buy me any gifts or an engagement ring even though he knew how much I would have liked a ring from him.

……..that on holiday, after I had told him that, as I paid for the accommodation and travel, he was responsible for buying the meals and trips, he insisted that we only needed to eat once a day and my having to buy cheese, bread and fruit to eat in the hotel or on the bus. Hi insistence that I pay for the hotel which we had booked then decided not to use when a family member told us that it was known for renting rooms to sex workers and drug users.

…………him pushing me to leave the house with no job and nowhere to go just after my redundancy and my Dad’s death. His standing watching me break my heart over my redundancy, my Dad’s death, the loss of my home and us breaking up and doing and saying nothing. He refused me a hug when I was sobbing and asked him directly to please put his arms around me. He walked away saying that ‘It would be inappropriate.’

………his calling me crazy and ‘nut job’, insisting that I had BPD (the previous diagnosis of which even my psychiatrist disagreed with) and his opinion that I would never improve. His pointing out how badly it reflected on me when I watched certain TV programmes. He then went on to tell me that his brother and sister had found their father’s partner reading gossip magazines and how disgusted they were. The implication being that they would also be disgusted with me for watching those TV programmes.

………his telling me that he felt sorry for me because I ‘never had never had a chance’, my life was such a mess and I wouldn’t get better.

…………his agreeing that if I wanted to kill myself I should because my son would get over it.

………him telling me that I may have been smart when I was younger but I wasn’t now. Then explaining that this wasn’t my fault, it was the drugs, the surgery, the stress that had messed up my mind. His telling me, when I expressed my own insecurities and doubts, that maybe I was right and my friends and family really didn’t like me and that they did think that I was boring and stupid.

..............he had no interest in the things I love, and would either not listen or would dismiss and devalue those things. He told me that art, literature, philosophy, religion, history were all worthless and should not be taught at university or funded by the government. He told me that anyone with spiritual beliefs or a faith was crazy and he wanted nothing to do with them.

…………his telling me that women who cared about their appearance were stupid and shallow and not respecting my desire to care for my appearance. His telling me that when I first met him I was a bad kisser, and that he taught me how to kiss properly.

It helps to write it down again.

OP posts:
suchislife44 · 11/12/2017 17:44

I am so pleased that this is about an EX. You are now free to live the life that you deserve. This 'man' does not deserve one second more of your energy. Try to learn from this journey and use it to your advantage. You are worth 1 billion times more than his behaviour. He is without doubt a deeply disturbed human being.

suchislife44 · 11/12/2017 17:46

I was in a situation similar to that you describe. It does get easier and you can rebuild your self worth in a way that will allow you to build positive, non toxic relationships... both with yourself and others.

orangetriangle · 11/12/2017 19:15

You poor poor lady. Thank god he is your ex. He has badly emotiinally abused you.
My daughter was with a guy like this when she was only 19. Academically he was extremely bright but amazingly dense in every other way. Had no understanding of people at all.
He was vile and very emotionally abusive to her. I believe he was on the autistic spectrum and also narsistic.
She was with him for 6 months and at the end of that time she was in a bad way . She suffered from anxiety and stress to the point of getting pains in her chest stomach and back. For eight months she had no interest in having a relationship with anyone.
A year on she is with a guy who treats her like a princess. Honestly keep moving forward you deserve so much morexxx

Aminuts23 · 11/12/2017 19:24

You’re doing really well Iris65. Things really will get much easier with time. I’m at 11 weeks NC now. I never check his FB any more. I couldn’t care less about him. I’ve so much to be happy about and none of it revolves around men Flowers

IrisAtwood · 13/12/2017 23:51

@ornagetriangle. Your post made me cry. I am so sorry that your daughter went through this, but pleased that she is much better.
My ex has been diagnosed with Aspergers and my therapist believes him to have narcissistic personality disorder too. He was also a very high flying academic in a challenging, niche area - won awards, has a theorem named after him; but has struggled to achieve anything recently.
I don’t know if I will recover. I am much older than your daughter and at my age most people have their lives sorted out. I have lost almost everything and am very depressed. I don’t want him back now - just wish he had been what I thought he was and that I could get those four years back.
Anyway, thank you for the helpful posts.

Coyoacan · 14/12/2017 00:59

The bit where he claims that other people think about you negatively rang a bell with me. My ex used to tell me that our mutual friends couldn't understand why he was with me, among other undermining things that he said. A year after we split up I was visiting one of these mutual friends and they told me they could never understand what I saw in him. The absolute opposite of what he'd said.

He may be a brilliant mathematician and linguist, but he feels so small inside that he has destroy another person to feel big.

Are you in a position to have a pet, OP? They are great for cuddles

Ellie56 · 14/12/2017 01:11

I couldn't read all the way through but from what I did read you are well rid of this vile obnoxious specimen.

You can do so much better than this knobhead.

Mxyzptlk · 14/12/2017 01:38

the end game for him is to destroy me and only my death would be enough for him.

That's a terrible thought. Let it sink in that that's how dangerous he is to you. Live your own life that you can enjoy, free from all the crap he was putting you through.
Flowers

ElizaDontlittle · 14/12/2017 01:52

Iris it is such early days. Trauma requires shifting in the brain and it takes time (and sometimes doesn't so if you do end up with PTSD there are ways to help that happen).
I don't think he was clever as much as gaslighting you and that just adds to his continuous abuse of you.
You have great insight and strength - borrow our conviction about that if you can't see it. Flowers

SmokeintheR00m · 14/12/2017 13:50

Suggest spend 100% of your time doing things that you enjoy and new things and things that will improve yourself and your life. You don't need to spend any time thinking about an ex. He is an ex. Start again, be the person that you want to be. Do the things that you want to do.

SmokeintheR00m · 14/12/2017 14:09

You deserve better and you deserve to be free to start a new, positive life

IrisAtwood · 16/12/2017 00:03

This thread is helping me so much. So much good advice and the idea of borrowing your conviction that I am strong and have insight is one that I find really appealing.

Thank you!

Mxyzptlk · 16/12/2017 00:05

That's good to know, Iris. Keep holding on.

IrisAtwood · 16/12/2017 13:58

I had a revelation last night that he never loved me. If you love somebody or cared for them you would never tell them to kill themselves.
I cried hard for a few minutes and then got angry that I put up with his crap for so long.

IrisAtwood · 16/12/2017 23:13

I don’t understand why he treated me so badly and dumped me the way that he did. I gave him everything and loved him so much.
There isn’t anyone else. He was totally alone and isolated, completely neglected his home and his life when I met him. I put everything together for him - he has told me himself that I saved him.
So why has he done this? And why he won’t he tell me his reasons? He just played games with my mind when I asked him.
I feel so sad and helpless and I miss him (the good parts)so much.

Mxyzptlk · 17/12/2017 00:31

You're right, he didn't love you. He loved having power over you. He loved having you do what he wanted, which included "saving him".

Think of how much stress and worry has now gone from your life. And how much better your life can be as you go forward.

Mxyzptlk · 17/12/2017 00:36

I just re-read your opening post. Those things that your ex did were awful. He clearly wanted to hurt and demean you. Why? I don't know but I do know you're much better to be free from all that.

jinglybell · 17/12/2017 13:08

@Iris65 he's a cunt. That's my initial reaction.

SantaClauseMightWork · 17/12/2017 13:17

I would ctrl-del just for the cup of tea he didn't get for you at the airport. Shock
That will leave no bug in the system and you can write the whole thing from the start too. Smile
Have a lovely Christmas, safe in the thought that you just saved yourself. Chin up and move on in the new year to new and exciting things. Flowers

abouttimeforanotherone · 17/12/2017 13:28

I am truly horrified at his behaviour. This man is the personification of evil.

redexpat · 17/12/2017 13:40

I read your op in november. V pleased that you have had your epiphany. I think its much easier to move on once that happens. Could I suggest that you harness this feeling and sign up for the freedom course? It might help you have better relationships in the future Flowers

IrisAtwood · 17/12/2017 14:03

When I reread that list it just leaps out at me what a nasty, cruel man he was. Wish I had let myself think it at the time.
I am seeing a really good therapist and have joined codependents anonymous. The thing with the freedom course is that I know the theory, but it’s putting it into practice that is hard.
At the moment I am not interested in a relationship, but if it does come up I’m going back to basics. The first sign of a red flag and I will be off. There were lots of red flags early on with my ex, but I put it down to his complex personality and mental health - thought I could rescue him.
So I take some responsibility for what happened to me.
Feeling better today. Last couple of days were hard because we were supposed to be on holiday together this week. I assume that he has gone on the holiday that I organised, booked and paid for because I didn’t go. At least I am not going to be eating bread and cheese in the street and crying because he’s criticised my attempts to speak Spanish.

IrisAtwood · 21/12/2017 21:33

Another memory. On holiday in Spain it was cold and very windy but he refused to buy lunch in a restaurant. Instead I bought cheese and bread and we sat on the floor behind a low brick wall surrounding a yard of an abandoned shop in a back street. There was rubbish blowing past us and traffic rushing past on the road. My feet hurt, I was freezing cold, trying to hold my bread and cheese and the wrappers without dropping them and thinking how humiliating it was as we looked homeless.

He was also impotent (almost completely) and had fungal nail infections in both feet which he refused to treat because he thought the antifungal treatments were poisonous (they were so bad that his Dr insisted on oral treatment not topical.)

He never cleaned his mouthguard which he had to wear every night because his antidepressants caused teeth grinding. It would get disgusting and I would clean it because I couldn’t bear lookign at it or thinking about it. His teeth were yellowing and the enamel was disappearing because of the amount of orange juice, ice cream and cake he ate everyday.

GallicosCats · 21/12/2017 22:14

Never mind the Freedom programme. Get yourself on to the German (Deutschlisch) thread and start writing rubbish German there - it's therapeutic. Grin I can only keep up with the odd bit of Franglais and dog Latin myself. And shove that turd of an ex where the sun don't shine.

IrisAtwood · 22/12/2017 11:17

😂😂😂 Seriously, might get myself on the German thread for some fun and distraction!

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