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I need you to share your reaction to the way my ex treated me

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Iris65 · 27/11/2017 09:08

I am struggling to stop missing my ex and I keep finding ways to explain away his behaviour and minimise his abuse. It really helps to hear other peoples’ reaction to the way that he treated me so please share your thoughts and feelings about my experiences:

……… when we travelled he told me not to speak Dutch or German because it sounded horrible, then telling me that I ‘had stepped over the line’ if I defended myself. Talking about how awful my family are at the dining table in his brother’s home on the very first time that I met him and his extended family. The time that he told me after a brief conversation I had in German with a hotel owner that my attempts to speak German were embarrassing and that no one liked hearing their language mangled by the way that I spoke it.

………after meeting my son for dinner he told me that I talked too much, was attention-seeking and that my son and his partner thought that I was boring and stupid. The New Year’s lunch with my son that he ruined because beforehand he decided that I should tell them how awful my childhood was. I tried to explain that it was not the right time or place, that it was mine to discuss, but he refused to listen and threatened to tell them himself if I didn’t. I arrived at the restaurant with bloodshot eyes and a puffy face from crying and spent the meal anxious that he was going to bring it all up. Of course he didn’t.

…………all of the times that he ignored my needs: the two 10 hour trips that should have been 3 hours to save £300 when he had almost a quarter of a million in the bank and a salary 10 times more than the monthly bills; the 1.5 mile walk from the bus stop after those trips because he would not get a taxi. All of that occurring during a weekend before and after which I had been at work in a hard, stressful job and with his full knowledge of my serious health problems. The refusal to buy me a cup of tea at the airport because according to him I didn’t need it. Asking me why? whenever I mentioned feeling ill or tired. Returning from my Dad’s funeral after a 300 mile round trip to find nothing done and the kitchen dirty. He stayed in his chair and barely glanced up when I came in, not even bothering offer to make me a drink, let alone ask me how I was or how it had gone.

……….that he refused to write a will or make any provision for me if he died when we discussed the future. That what happened after his death was ‘my problem’ and if his family inherited his estate then ‘they were nice people’ and would look after me. His dismissing my need for security as of no account by refusing to reply when I pointed out that at if he died I would be heartbroken and dealing with his death at the same time as facing the loss of my home and financial insecurity. That he knew how much I wanted to marry him and said ‘You’d like that wouldn’t you.’ with a sly smile when he said that we would marry if it meant that he could stay in the UK following Brexit, while refusing to consider it for my sake.

…………..his refusing to celebrate birthdays, Christmas, Valentines day or anniversaries because they were meaningless; regardless of how I felt. His refusal to buy me any gifts or an engagement ring even though he knew how much I would have liked a ring from him.

……..that on holiday, after I had told him that, as I paid for the accommodation and travel, he was responsible for buying the meals and trips, he insisted that we only needed to eat once a day and my having to buy cheese, bread and fruit to eat in the hotel or on the bus. Hi insistence that I pay for the hotel which we had booked then decided not to use when a family member told us that it was known for renting rooms to sex workers and drug users.

…………him pushing me to leave the house with no job and nowhere to go just after my redundancy and my Dad’s death. His standing watching me break my heart over my redundancy, my Dad’s death, the loss of my home and us breaking up and doing and saying nothing. He refused me a hug when I was sobbing and asked him directly to please put his arms around me. He walked away saying that ‘It would be inappropriate.’

………his calling me crazy and ‘nut job’, insisting that I had BPD (the previous diagnosis of which even my psychiatrist disagreed with) and his opinion that I would never improve. His pointing out how badly it reflected on me when I watched certain TV programmes. He then went on to tell me that his brother and sister had found their father’s partner reading gossip magazines and how disgusted they were. The implication being that they would also be disgusted with me for watching those TV programmes.

………his telling me that he felt sorry for me because I ‘never had never had a chance’, my life was such a mess and I wouldn’t get better.

…………his agreeing that if I wanted to kill myself I should because my son would get over it.

………him telling me that I may have been smart when I was younger but I wasn’t now. Then explaining that this wasn’t my fault, it was the drugs, the surgery, the stress that had messed up my mind. His telling me, when I expressed my own insecurities and doubts, that maybe I was right and my friends and family really didn’t like me and that they did think that I was boring and stupid.

..............he had no interest in the things I love, and would either not listen or would dismiss and devalue those things. He told me that art, literature, philosophy, religion, history were all worthless and should not be taught at university or funded by the government. He told me that anyone with spiritual beliefs or a faith was crazy and he wanted nothing to do with them.

…………his telling me that women who cared about their appearance were stupid and shallow and not respecting my desire to care for my appearance. His telling me that when I first met him I was a bad kisser, and that he taught me how to kiss properly.

It helps to write it down again.

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Iris65 · 28/11/2017 08:14

Just reread the thread again after waking up and missing him again.
The replies are really helpful.
Yesterday was a bad day because my ex sent me an email asking when I would be collecting the rest of my stuff.
I was OK until bedtime when I broke down again and fell asleep crying. It is such a weird state to be in. I know how he behaved, but I miss the physical affection so much. It was very strange because he was so physically affectionate yet so abusive.
holrosea I am trying to do similar things, but am really struggling to see people because I don’t want to see anyone or do anything.
Thanks for the hugs ami

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Cheekyandfreaky · 28/11/2017 09:56

Do you need the stuff? Could you write it off in your head? As for his stuff, pack it up in a box, dump it outside your door, tell him to collect it between x and y time (when you’re out) and let him know it will be disposed of afterwards. Fake it a bit at the moment- show him you’re moving on and eventually you will want to move on. I imagine whatever reaction he gives you to the above will put you off him too.

butterfly56 · 28/11/2017 10:56

Iris
Please don't go back for your stuff...this is another game he wants to play.
Can you arrange someone to pick it up for you?
Please stay no contact because believe me he will carry on the games and will not be happy until he has destroyed you.
He is evil and you need to protect yourself from him. Flowers

user1493413286 · 28/11/2017 11:01

He sounds horrific and you are amazing for walking away from him.

Naughtysausage · 28/11/2017 11:29

Don't go and get the stuff! Horrible, cruel man.
Write it off as a casualty of the break up and focus on doing something nice for yourself this evening.

(Can I suggest if you're missing the physical affection you go and have a pedicure/manicure? Someone kind to chat and rub oil in your cuticles fills your daily quota of needing a bit of contact)

ShatnersWig · 28/11/2017 15:12

Do not collect your stuff. Send someone else or just let it go.

hellsbellsmelons · 28/11/2017 15:15

I agree.
It's another thing for him to contact you about.
Tell him to bin it or get another person to collect it on your behalf.
Stay strong.
This is one vile, narcissistic bully and you need to keep away because he'll drag you back otherwise.

Mix56 · 28/11/2017 15:26

Thank God it's over.
Thank God he threw you out,
Thank God for every new day you can watch any TV, discuss history, smile at a baby...
If you don't need the remaining things tell him to bin them, if you want them you go with someone else.
Then block his number, block his email. he will attempt to turn this around & try to wind you back in with offers to change. he won't.
Onwards & upwards

whatsspots · 28/11/2017 16:34

Stay strong...the pain and longing will ease over time, I've been in a similar situation...and experienced the roller coaster of emotions. My ExH too was emotionally abusive and controlling.
Agree with the other posters..please don't go back for your things.
Be gentle with yourself and take it a day at a time...

Pacificly · 28/11/2017 16:36

Had to stop reading he is a vile cruel man.
You are well rid
Ask yourself did you love the way he made you feel?
Did you love his cruel words his crushing of your esteem?
Did you love his failure to show you any love care or concern?
Did you love him ignoring and refusing to celebrate occasions?
Did you love him making yo feel like your feelings didn't matter?
You can't have loved any of that and you know deep down your feelings aren't love as that isn't love!
You are suffering the after effects of a traumatic toxic relationship. Time to allow yourself to heal and start loving you.
He isn't worthy of love you deserve much more than a man who tried to psychologically crush you!

mickhucknallspinkpancakes · 28/11/2017 17:06

Yes send someone if you can?

BewareOfTheToddler · 28/11/2017 17:11

He was emotionally abusive. Well done for getting out and staying away. Please stay away from him - he's not someone with your best interests at heart and life is too short to spend it with someone who is so deliberately unkind.

Oh, and decent people usually appreciate all attempts to communicate in their own language. How many languages did he speak perfectly?! Grin

I would have suggested you not give him further headspace but instead find a therapist to work through the trauma bonding and why you thought it was OK to be treated that way, but it sounds as though you have that covered. You sound so self-aware. I wish you well Flowers

RandomMess · 28/11/2017 17:17

Well done you for escaping!!

I would forget your stuff and block all avenues of contact with him Flowers

PickAChew · 28/11/2017 17:26

I would say he's quite the arsehole, but arseholes are useful.

holrosea · 28/11/2017 21:52

Hi Iris65, you were on my mind and I wanted to check in & see how you are.

I agree with PP, do not go to get your stuff, or if it really is indispensable have someone collect it or go with you. You need to protect yourself from him & you're still so raw.

Someone also suggested a mani/pedi & I think this is actually a really good idea. It brought back a memory of a girls holiday when a gf got very emotional after a massage. She felt silly but when you think about it, outside a family/couple/close friends environment, how often do you get touched? I know that I value human contact & will take a hand hold where I can get it.

Anyway, am rambling. I am sending you a virtual hand hold & letting you know that someone's thinking about you. Chin up, you're strong enough to get through. ☕🍰

Iris65 · 29/11/2017 14:54

It really helps to come back today and read more messages reinforcing what is happening and the reality of his behaviour. Vile, abusive, cruel: that is how healthy, normal people see his behaviour. I just kept explaining it away, minimising and denying. I also thought that I was strong enough to soak it up. So stupid.
I saw a therapist this morning that I had seen previously for quite a long time. I’m going to see her for the next few weeks. It really helped and I feel a bit calmer about the whole thing.
She also explained that it is still really early days. I had got it into my head that if I did 30 days no contact or vlc I would get over it. She also explained (based on what I told her and it was a tiny fraction) that the end game for him is to destroy me and only my death would be enough for him.
I told her I am terrified that he won’t come back, but then part of me is terrified that he will.
If I knew that how I feel would get better I think I could get through it, but a lot of the time I think it’s hopeless.
It helps so much to know that others have gone through this.
I think I will ask a friend to come with me and get my stuff on a day when he is at work.
holrosea and naughtysausage (Your name made me smile) The mani/pedi/massage is a good idea, especially for the human contact as well as doing something nice.

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Iris65 · 29/11/2017 14:55

Thanks holrosea. If I can hold your hand anytime I will! Flowers

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Iris65 · 29/11/2017 15:01

How many languages did he speak perfectly Three, although he did have an accent. When I asked why it was OK for him to speak English with an accent he walked out of the room 😏
He is very, very smart and (was) a world class mathematician. That was part of the problem - he would run rings around me in discussions, change the subject midway, deny saying things, interrupt me or stop me talking mid sentence. Then he would tell me that I had a bad memory, wasn’t as smart as I used to be and hadn’t been as smart as him ever. The latter is probably true, but I tried to explain about different kinds of intelligence and he totally rejected that idea. He was also very, very competitive and had to win even trivial games at any cost.

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HildasStockings · 29/11/2017 15:14

He sounds like an emotionally abusive person. What's more he sounds as though he enjoyed it.

You mustn't go back. He will never make you happy, he will only make you more miserable. Your life is worth so much more.

Don't collect your stuff. If you can live without it tell him to give it to charity or bin it. If you must have it back send someone in your place and DO NOT ENGAGE with him. At all.

Close that door OP and walk away with your head high and never let anyone like this nasty piece of work close to you again.

HildasStockings · 29/11/2017 15:15

Oh, and being good at languages and maths does not mean anything when you are a total snake.

Iris65 · 29/11/2017 22:21

HildasStockings That’s what I need to do, hold my head high and have nothing to do with him. 🤨

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Reflexella · 29/11/2017 23:14

I only got halfway through before my twatometer went off the scale.

Well done for getting rid he sounds like a vile specimen

SlowlyShrinking · 29/11/2017 23:20

What an exceptionally boring, horrible man. You’re going to feel so much better when you’ve been away from him for a while and you can properly relax. I’m so sorry you had to put up with this arsehole. He didn’t deserve you, nowhere near Flowers

Iris65 · 11/12/2017 17:29

Things are OK. I’m getting stronger, with the occasional wobble when I think how bad things were and yet I stayed and told him that I loved him. Now attending CoDA and seeing my therapist again. It’s expensive, but worth it.

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