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Is it weird I've never dated anyone I fancy?

67 replies

Kellyopio · 26/11/2017 10:07

I'm in my early 30s now.
I've never dated anyone I actually fancy.
The man I'm seeing now is lovely,but I don't fancy him at all,and the thought of sleeping with him makes me cringe a little.
The men who i do really fancy would never be interested in me.
Is this normal?
I really would love just once to date /even just 1 date with a man I really find attractive.
It might sound stupid but it scares me to think it might never happen.
My type is broad shoulders,bit of a beard(if you've been watching X factor Matt type)
Never in a million years would someone like him look twice at me.
It makes me feel sad.
Will I ever fancy any one I date?

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TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 26/11/2017 23:51

I think this is bonkers. I'm quite an average looking person. Have always been a size 16. Curvy and quirky looking rather than 'gorgeous' or 'good looking' and I have dated more than my fair share of male models, hipster musicians and whatnot.

Sounding wildly pompous- I think I am fairly interesting and fun to be around.

DP is in a trendy industry and gets a lot of female attention. Objectively he is an attractive chap. But I am not worried. I am confident that I rank higher than these people for him- no matter how good looking they are.

Why settle? Why accept mediocre?

TatianaLarina · 27/11/2017 00:05

Why would anyone think that being normal looking is ‘mediocre’?

All the male models I’ve met personally were thick as fuck. Is that your definition of superior?

If you mean the guy OP is seeing, he’s not mediocre he’s just not right for her.

Dieu · 27/11/2017 00:11

OP, I can actually totally relate, and I am 43! I am in the 'attractive' category, and attract a reasonable amount of attention on dating sites. It is seldom the fanciable males who message me though, and is generally always the 'nice' guys who probably feel a bit more confident behind the computer screen.
If they sound kind and intelligent, I'll go for a date with them, sometimes irrespective of looks. I have an in-built guilt complex (probably linked to low self-esteem) that berates myself if I'm shallow enough to go for looks.
So invariably I'll find myself sitting opposite these guys in the pub, trying to make the evening as enjoyable as possible (for them? - again, low self-esteem) while wondering in my head what the fuck I'm doing there, and all the while knowing it's never going to work out.
Out of all the dates I've been on since starting online dating this past year, there's probably been 2 blokes I've fancied. and sadly, a relationship with them didn't work out, but not for lack of trying on my part (in fairness).
I'm not sure how to change it. I think the key is to become the pursuer rather then the pursued.
So basically, just try messaging the guys you like, as what else do you have to lose?
I also think a part of my problem is that I find it incredibly difficult to achieve absolute certainty about anything in life, whether that be jobs, homes, partners, etc. So I can be flighty and find it hard to settle. I always find myself envying these guys who seem keen to see me again, and wishing I could find someone I felt that way about.
Fuck, think I need a counsellor!! Grin

Lovemenoooooww · 27/11/2017 00:14

Me too, OP. I’ve realised this just recently. How sad Sad

HeddaGarbled · 27/11/2017 00:31

I know what you mean. I'm no looker so I've never got anywhere near the sort of man who could melt your knickers at 50 yards. But I have dated men who were sort of cute in their own odd ways and who definitely grew on me. And I've had some good sex, though not of the ripping each other's clothes off variety.

I do sometimes wonder, wistfully, what it would have been like to have had sex with someone really hot.

But I do think that there is something very sweet about a slightly inhibited, slightly incompetent first time with someone you actually really like which then grows into pretty good sex as you get to know each other properly. Clearly, that's not going to happen with a man who makes you cringe. But it could happen with a man who doesn't tick your physical checklist.

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 27/11/2017 00:32

Sorry Tatiana, I don't mean that somebody who isn't a male model is mediocre- what I meant was that why settle for somebody who you think is mediocre- you should think your other half is the absolute bees knees. (Sound like my mum there!)

Have to deny the typical 'male models are stupid' angle as I met most of them through work. They were accomplished individuals in various qualified fields but had healthy side careers in modelling.

Oblomov17 · 27/11/2017 07:34

I agree. Now you've posted more there's clearly a self esteem issue.

Plus maybe you need to look at your criteria of physical appearance which drives your attraction so much. Shallow.

What about being attracted .... to people who are really kind, inside.....or, being quick witted is a very attractive quality. Long term potential? Should be a very high criteria for you right now.

ravenmum · 27/11/2017 07:41

Hedda, you make it sound a little as if only conventionally attractive men are confident and good in bed! I may not have been with any sex gods but if anything my own limited experiences suggest precisely the opposite :)

Love Dieu's description of the perfect British date where potentially both partners are just acting as if they are enjoying it out of a mixture of a guilt complex and politeness. I can definitely relate.

Kelly, just make sure that you don't stereotype yourself, seeing yourself as the sort of person who does this, or the sort of person who doesn't do that. Until now your self-esteem has been dodgy, but look at your post here. You're saying that you deserve something better. That you don't want just any old partner. That they need to meet your standards.

Step out of the passive "will Fate ever send me a nice partner" way of thinking and be glad that you have not just settled for whoever. You are picky and that's a good thing.

teaandcakeat8 · 27/11/2017 08:04

Firstly you need to think outside the box when it comes to being attracted to someone. It’s so much more about chemistry than a certain ‘look’. For me, someone could be a chiselled god but also dull as fuck and that just kills it. I always thought I was into broad, short hair, clean shaven, preppy types but current dp is 10 years older than me, has gray hair and a beard and couldn’t give a shit about clothes - however he is very interesting and intelligent and we fancied the pants off each other from our first date. Try to be more open minded. Is there a personality type you find interesting? What else does it for you than looks?

Secondly you do probably need to work on your self esteem but it sounds like you know this.

Plenty of people will say they’ve dated guys they are not attracted to but I don’t think it’s the basis for a long and happy relationship...

LuluBellaBlue · 27/11/2017 08:06

I can totally relate and agree with everyone it's a self esteem, lack of self love thing.
HOWEVER this can easily be changed!!

Invest everything you have in you! Be that seeing a counsellor (highly recommend CBT therapy) you can even google online and set yourself work to do, maybe a life coach, or testing your personality type.
Explore yourself, try out new hobbies, explore things you may not have done since school - art, music etc
Start following Pinterest for day fashion ideas.
Basically invest everything you have into yourself and the rest will happen Flowers

Oh and I was in such a bad way, horrible relationships. Dating men I didn't fancy either and now something inside me has changed these guys I never thought would be interested in me, are actually chasing me! It's almost surreal Grin

Oh one other thing - I used to do hobbies that I guess I thought were appealing, people pleaser - for instance what may be perceived as a sexy sport. I now play rugby and absolutely love it! and if I guy is put off that I play rugby he's not someone I'd want to date anyway!

Go fall in love with yourself! Good luck :)

PaxUniversalis · 27/11/2017 08:46

I am married but I have to say I never went for the 'chiselled adonis' type. Too much competition when you're dating a man who looks like a model. It then gets complicated. They're eye candy, sure, but not boyfriend/husband material. Also I never dated guys who were smooth talkers, full of themselves and confident they could get any woman they wanted. No chance. That was a complete turn off! I always liked men with a quirky, abstract sense of humour. And values.

badabing36 · 27/11/2017 08:49

I did this at 17 ish and then decided I'd rather be single than compromise too much Are you happy to be single? Or do you just go from one relationship to another?

It's about self esteem but also I think that society tells women not to be shallow and to be flattered/grateful for any attention. I think this is bullshit.

I get that you can find someone just over average, get to know them and fancy the arse off them. But the op feels the need to swipe right on men that she feels cringe about sleeping with. That is not the same thing.

Also, very attractive people don't actually get huge amounts of offers on online dating, apparently everyone thinks they are out of their league.

Maybe try having a break from online dating and see if anyone takes your fancy in real life. Don't settle!

TatianaLarina · 27/11/2017 09:36

Have to deny the typical 'male models are stupid' angle as I met most of them through work. They were accomplished individuals in various qualified fields but had healthy side careers in modelling.

I too met them through work as I modelled when I was younger. I’m talking about full time career models. Plenty of men and women do modelling on the side to make money - in education or training for a career for eg - in fact my DH did some when he was a medical student which is how we met - but it’s different from being a FT model.

However tbf I do set the bar high as I’m only interested in men who are very clever, good education etc.

ravenmum · 27/11/2017 09:44

very attractive people don't actually get huge amounts of offers on online dating, apparently everyone thinks they are out of their league
But they can make their own offers and are presumably then more likely to get an answer. When I was online dating I was a bit uncertain about dating very attractive types, I'll admit - did it anyway just in case! - but if one had contacted me I certainly wouldn't have ignored him :)

ravenmum · 27/11/2017 09:45

dating very attractive types --> contacting very attractive types

PaxUniversalis · 27/11/2017 09:57

TatianaLarina - if people can earn money modelling then why not.

But when I was young I decided early on that some very good looking guys (typically in their late teens to mid 20s), and therefore the ones who got a lot of attention from females, were a complete turn off. I found a lot of them were brash, overly confident and full of themselves, especially if they had reasonably well off parents (I don't mean seriously wealthy families but parents who were earning more money than most people). Some of these guys were just spoilt brats.
On the other hand I've known a few people born into wealthy, 'old money' families (just as acquaintances - not boyfriends) and they seemed far more down to earth and likeable than previously mentioned young guys using their good looks and flashing their cash to attract girls at the local disco.

Sudoku00 · 04/05/2021 00:57

I know I'm dragging up an old thread here, but I was fascinated to read other women mention this! It's been a huge issue for me and I wanted to say thank you to other women for admitting they've done this too.

I had pretty ok self esteem when I was younger, but the guys I liked had no interest in me and my sister and other women advised me to stop being picky and give men a chance that weren't my type. So throughout my 20s I was in depressing relationships with men I resented having to sleep with and ended up hating.

All bar one were decent men and treated me well or at least okay, but I had zero chemistry with them. It started to destroy my confidence over time. I would meet men at work or elsewhere that I fancied and developed crushes on, who would then be nice to me as they knew I was dating someone and figured I was just being friendly. I'd get more attention from my 'types' than I ever did in highschool/college, as I guess they saw me as 'safe'. It broke my heart, as I knew I couldn't be with them. They made that clear, albeit not in a nasty way. They would just talk to me about other women they liked and were trying to date who were far more attractive.

I then realised I was miserable with the men I was dating and stopped doing that. I had therapy, rebuilt my self esteem and assumed if I got out there and met people and dated then I would eventually meet someone who was my type and liked me in return.

That never happened. I've been single for almost 7 years now. The most attention I've ever had was recently a married boss wanting an affair just to get back as his gold-digger wife (who was also asking me to help her cheat on him). Obviously I do not want to hook up with married men. I want someone that actually wants me as their partner. But finding an attractive (to me) man who is single and likes me seems more and more impossible over time and it's hard realising that people will choose to be in abusive relationships with someone more attractive.

My type definitely isn't celebrities or super fit, tanned model types. I've never found the Brad Pitts of the world attractive. I like tall, socially awkward, a bit nerdy, and nice thighs/ass. I'm fine with grey hair and 'dad bods', don't care how much they earn, what car they drive, what letters they have after their name, etc. As long as they have a brain and can talk about something other than football and TV. I'm not opposed to dating a single dad and raising his child as my own as long as the ex is out of the picture. I think I'm fairly flexible and willing to try most things for someone that I love. I'm definitely not chasing after super attractive men. I think my brain automatically filters them out for me.

I never thought it would be so hard to find someone like that, but no one I meet either online or off seems to be mutually interested and I've had to accept it is entirely my appearance. I thought maybe I should change my personality a bit, dress differently, use different mannerisms, experiment with different things to see if it made any difference. It didn't. A few would act interested, then ghost me. One acted like Prince Charming for a month, then turned out to be the male version of a gold-digger, another seemed okay but admitted to having some morally questionnable fetishes that I really wasn't cool with. I'm actually sad that I didn't even get to sleep with him before I found out, as at least then I could know what good sex felt like. I've also considered paying to have sex with someone I like, as pathetic as that sounds.

Now I'm on my way to 40 and feel like I'm not going to find anyone at this rate. I'm sad that my entire sex life will just be watching porn like some 16 year old teenager (I've actually started watching some just so I can have ANY kind of outlet!). To make it worse, my libido has increased in my 30s and yet all I can get are one night stands/hookups which I've never had any interest in. I need to know a man at least fairly well before I trust him enough to jump into bed. But that doesn't seem to be in the cards for me. I didn't think sexual frustration/rage in women was a thing, but it definitely is for me!

It really gets to me these days, as I see people settling for abusive, cheating, manipulative people whose only redeeming feature is that they look good. Yet I'm not considered attractive enough to date. I'm not hideously ugly or anything, I'm in ok shape still despite no longer being in my 20s, I think I'm a good person. Just not quite good enough for anything serious with any of the men I like. At this point I would get surgery if I had the money, just so I can avoid a completely dead lovelife, but I don't.

People still tell me I should lower my standards and date men I'm not into, as if I will magically find them attractive after a year or two. I know from repeated experience that never happens. It's the complete opposite. And it's always very attractive women that tell me that, which is a bit of a smack in the face when they weren't willing to lower theirs down to my own level.

I don't know what the answer is. Dating has been all but dead during lockdown and I've sort of given up trying as it was burning me out getting my hopes up then getting them crushed over and over. And I recently lost my job, so I can't afford to date right now anyway, even if I magically found someone. It sucks, and I just wanted to share my sympathies with women who have posted here already or who might read this in future.

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