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I know I can't change this. I just need to understand how bad what I did was.

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HelpMeToUnderstandThis · 02/11/2017 07:35

I have very recently split up with my boyfriend.

I have AS, he has moderate functioning autism.

Over the past few weeks, he has driven me mad with behaviours that have obviously been anxiety driven. I knew he was upset, but not really why. I have been frustrated by not being able to 'get through to him' to help him feel better.

When he did tell me, it seemed to me to not be a huge issue. I tried to talk things through and explain to him. But it didn't make any difference. He said he understood, but then kept repeating it again.

So then he drove me mad with that. Constantly repeating the same reason and finally he ended things because of it. He had become fixated on it and wouldn't let it go no matter how many strategies I used to explain it. I was cross and also upset that we had split up over something that, to me, seemed ridiculous.

He is a lovely man. He has significant autistic traits but they make sense to me and I find them far easier to manage than many of the behaviours/aspects of relationships I read about on here. He is the kindest and most gentle and loyal man I've ever met.

Anyway, it turns out that reason was not the full picture, and was a bit of a 'red herring', which is why my explanations didn't work. And why he still felt that I didn't love him and that he wasn't important enough to me, even though I did and he was.

A few weeks ago, we got talking to a man. I had met him a few times previously, before I knew my ex boyfriend and we got on well. He is fairly new to the area, is quiet and doesn't have any friends locally. He suggested meeting up and he and I swapped phone numbers. My ex boyfriend was there at the time. In my head, this was just about making friends, going out for drinks, no problems. In my now ex boyfriend's head, you don't give another man in the pub your phone number when you are in a relationship. I haven't communicated with this man in the absence of my boyfriend at all.

Once this man knew I had a boyfriend, he suggested that the three of us went out. He hasn't, at any point, said anything inappropriate. I had no reason to believe that he was being dishonest when he said he is just interested in friends and would like to get to know both of us.

My ex boyfriend only told me that the phone number thing had upset him last night. He hasn't tried to tell me what I can/can't do at any point, but he has ended it because I did something that upset him and broke his trust and he can't get past it. He said he would never have exchanged numbers with another woman because he loves me. The only reason it was me this man exchanged numbers with is because my ex boyfriend finds communication difficult. He doesn't really text or speak to anyone other than me.

I feel terrible because I know now that this has hurt him. And he has done exactly what I do in relationships, and what I think you should do, if you don't feel that someone respects you or they break your trust, then you end it. There's no point in asking someone not to do whatever it is, or expecting them to change for you, or arguing. You just end it.

But I need to understand how bad what I did was.

Please be gentle because I do also have an asd, I just find it easier to articulate my thoughts than he does, which is why it took him so long to tell me what was really upsetting him.

I just feel terrible. I accept that it's over because I have broken his trust, but I need to understand whether what I did was just objectively wrong. I just feel so bad that I didn't make him feel loved and cherished when that is exactly how he made me feel.

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HelpMeToUnderstandThis · 18/11/2017 08:15

Hi

I'm really sad to be resurrecting this thread after only a couple of weeks.

I just need to know now that I'm not being a completely unreasonable person. Or even whether I have any choice.

We spent some time together on that Sunday (5th) when I last posted, and also saw each other on the Thursday (9th) evening. I didn't have much time to see him other than that due to commitments I had with my children and plans I'd made when he wasn't talking to me.

We made plans to see each other on Sunday (12th). I went out with my daughter and a friend for breakfast for an hour. When I got back, he'd gone from "I love you" to "why are you blanking me? i thought you loved me. If you love someone you don't ignore them. What have I done? I didn't mean to upset you" (it had been 84 minutes from the first text to the last).

It is just the autistic anxiety. So I explained I'd seen my friend, we saw each other anyway and had a really nice time.

Then on Tuesday he dumped me again. I go out on a Tuesday evening. He knows this. But he'd seen that I'd checked Whatsapp when I was out and hadn't messaged him (I was saying a quick goodnight to my daughter) so I got a lot of anxious messages and more "why are you ignoring me? I thought you loved me" type messages. And by the time I got home, he'd sent me loads of messages apologising for upsetting me, apologising for texting loads, saying that he loved me and didn't mean to do this and that he loved me and didn't want to cause me any distress, apologising for not being able to make me happy... then he uninstalled Whatsapp, and ignored any texts or emails.

His anxiety is heightened at the moment because he has a couple of things going on that are causing him concern and upset. I won't share them, but the are the sort of thing that would upset and distress anyone, so I'm not going to criticise him for that. But the autism causes him to react very extremely to emotional upset.

So I emailed him, on the off chance. He did read it, and said I understood this and that if he needed to talk things through, I'm still here for him to do this. He doesn't have anyone else who really understands either what he has going on or how autism impacts on him.

He read it. We exchanged a couple of messages and then we met on Thursday night. We discussed things. He had processed so much stuff it was amazing. He had so much insight into the impact of his behaviour on me.

He went out last night. I stayed in because I wasn't feeling well. Good nights were sent and all was well. And I've woken up this morning to several more messages about how he knows I don't love him and why couldn't I just be honest about not caring for him. He wishes I'd been honest from the start and that that's all he's ever done with me... He's said he won't be using email or his phone from now on (he means this, it isn't an idle threat).

I'm just exhausted from it. I don't even know what I did this time! He made some reference to finally understanding and having processed everything, but I don't know what he's referring to.

I know that he doesn't mean to be like this. And that all autistic relationships have these ups and downs and that, once they are worked through, they can be amazing. But I've been dumped twice in one week. Once as a girlfriend and the second time as a friend/support.

It's actually pointless isn't it?

I'm sad. But I'm also really pissed off!

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PNGirl · 18/11/2017 08:24

Oh dear. I think it sounds like he isn't in the right place for any kind of relationship right now. I think I would give up in your shoes.

HelpMeToUnderstandThis · 18/11/2017 08:45

I think you're right.

Ridiculous thing is tha Thursday night was brilliant. He promised it eouldn't happen again.

Now i knew that was a promise he wouldn't be able to keep, but i appreciated that he wanted to and believed that he had enough strategies/now to prevent this type of shutdown but he just isn't using them when he needs to. And the stress of trying to use them is more upsetting than he can manage Sad

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MatildaTheCat · 18/11/2017 09:55

Sorry to read this. When I opened this thread just now, my first thought was, ‘if they get back together there will be another similar issue very soon,’ which unfortunately has proved to be the case.

Someone with his level of anxiety and social skill is going to struggle big time with being in a relationship and no matter how kind and lovely he can be, just now he cannot do it.

So let him go. If you want to sign of gracefully why not send him a card saying goodbye and good wishes for the future? But no more messages after that. Otherwise you both continue on this merry go round of uncertainty and recrimination.

HelpMeToUnderstandThis · 18/11/2017 10:05

Sadly, i think merry go round of uncertainty and recrimination is accurate.

I told him that i found it difficult to answer the question "have you got a boyfriend" because it might be true at 7pm when I'm asked it but a lie by 8.30pm when i've been dumped without knowledge/rhyme or reason.

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AnnieAnoniMouse · 18/11/2017 23:18

Oh lovey I’m so sorry 🌷

Being pissed off is understandable, but he’s not doing it on purpose.

It is sad though.

Only you know how much of this you can take before you say ‘no more’.

HelpMeToUnderstandThis · 19/11/2017 09:30

I know he isn't doing it on purpose, Annie. I spoke to a friend about it last night and he said, "well you're not really being dumped, you're just in his bad books until his thoughts have caught up with his emotions".

I know this, but that makes it sound so simplistic and 'easy', when it's actually emotionally exhausting. It wouldn't have been so bad if it just stayed in his thoughts, but it comes out in emails, text messages and whatsapp messages, all at the same time. I can get 50 in an evening. I can't breathe from it sometimes.

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HelpMeToUnderstandThis · 19/11/2017 09:33

Or rather, wasn't able to breathe from it.

Need to talk in past tense now...

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HelpMeToUnderstandThis · 19/11/2017 12:27

He emailed me late last night to ask if he could see me this evening. I replied and said yes, just to let me know what time he was free.

He sent me another couple of messages about an hour ago about how he was confused and knew that I never cared about him.

I tried to reply but he's blocked me on everything.

So that's it then.

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Walkacrossthesand · 19/11/2017 14:34

So sorry, help - you can't reason with the unreasonable. Maybe he needs help, but you can't help him, so best to back away. Doubtless he'll take that as proof that you never cared - but he doesn't want to believe that you ever cared anyway, so that's not a reason to stay involved.

HelpMeToUnderstandThis · 19/11/2017 16:38

I know, Walk.

The difficulty I'm having at the moment, is that I have AS and am really struggling with the sense of injustice of it all. I am reading things in black and white that he has stated about me as fact that are, quite simply untrue.

I can't address it. I can't explain it. I'm just stuck now with the injustice of it.

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