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I'm future faking someone...

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futurefakingfornow · 28/09/2017 11:37

And I know I'm a coward but I think I ought to continue for the time being...

Hear me out:

Met a guy last year and fell into a FWB situation. He seemed lovely and the sex was out of this world. 😳 But as time went on he seemed to get more and more attached (I was happy with the casual set up as too busy for anything heavier). He started pushing for us to spend more time together and for more text contact. I couldn't really logistically spare more time at that point despite really liking him. It was causing him to get upset and as we were just starting to argue instead of enjoy our time together, I put an end to things in April.

He really lost it, said I'd led him on and that I was using him for an affair!!! He decided that because my ex partner (and father of my DC's) would look after the kids at my house whilst I was at work some evenings, that actually he must be living there and I was taking him for a mug. This was not true and the ex has a temporary living situation at the moment which should be resolved by the new year. We get on well and he is a good dad so I don't mind him hanging out at mine but I haven't had a relationship with him for years!!! I can see why the new guy got it into his head that he might have been being played - I do have unusual circumstances. But what he did next was unacceptable...

He stormed round to my house whilst I was at work one evening and my ex was looking after the kids and confronted my ex on the doorstep whilst the kids were awake! Basically saying; "she's been taking us both for mugs mate, been seeing us both at the same time - thought you should know the truth." Luckily my DC's were getting ready for bed upstairs and only just missed the commotion but they could have heard it. My ex then told him that we were long split up, nobody was being played and if he didn't fuck off from his children's property in the next 5 seconds, he'd live to regret it... So off he went.

Ex was pissed off with me but also supportive and I was mortified. I sent new man an angry text to say that if he ever came near me, my family or my property again then I would call the police. Then I blocked him on everything. I was pretty heart sore but was so annoyed that he'd done what he did to my ex (and potentially kids) just because he didn't trust me. I really missed him but I thought that was the end of it.

It was for a while. Until I did something really dumb.

I bumped into FWB guy on my way out of the supermarket in July. I tried to avoid him at first but he kept trying to talk to me, so I asked him what he wanted and he apologised for what he'd done. He was very genuinely sorry and said he'd not stopped kicking himself for the stupid way he'd behaved, that he'd grown so attached to me and acted like an arsehole. He said he had got it all wrong and had never behaved so stupidly before and never would again. Said he'd learnt his lesson and had lost out all because he'd let his emotions get the better of him. He said he was sorry he did that to me and to my ex and would never bother us again but just wanted to let me know as I'd blocked him and he felt I deserved sincere apologies. I thanked him and wished him the best of luck with everything in the future and
went on my way but it shook me up a bit as I was just starting to put him behind me and there he was looking all gorgeous and behaving like the gent I first met.

And then 4 days later, on a night out with the girls, I bumped into him again!!! I left a little earlier than my friends as I had a busy weekend ahead so went to the taxi rank at about 11:30/midnight and there he was waiting for a cab at the same time!!! He'd been in the bar over the road all evening apparently. It really threw me and he offered to share a taxi home (he lives about 6 roads away so same direction). I stupidly said yes as he'd been so genuine the night before so I thought - why not? Except almost as soon as we got in the back of the taxi we just looked at each other and started to kiss... (poor driver 🙈). Long story short, we got out at his place, went upstairs and had some seriously mind blowing sex. Twice. I ended up getting a taxi home from his at about 5am!!!

What an idiot. We'd had a bit of a talk in between having sex both times but I unblocked him the next morning on WhatsApp and the messages started again. We both said we should just leave it there as a one off. But we haven't been able to resist and have been sneakily seeing each other ever since. The sex is very addictive.

But just in the last month, despite agreeing to be casual, I can feel him getting pushy again. I realise now that he can't cope with taking things very slowly and that it's not fair to expect him to wait for my logistics to fit in with his. However, he makes me feel very uneasy and the threat of him kicking off and bringing trouble to my door again is still hanging unsaid in the air. He's already starting to sulk if I can't find time to see him every week or if I don't text back quick enough. He's making all these big plans for us for when I move to a new place next year and I have more time in my hands...

Except I'm now moving within the next 5 weeks!!! And further away than originally planned (will have to change one of my DC's school for example). I haven't told him this and don't intend to. I know it's awful and that this is my own stupid fault but he scares me and despite the amazing physical connection, I think he might have abusive undertones. For example, last weekend when I tried to leave his house the morning after the night before, he pinned me down on the bed and said "you're not going anywhere yet!" and kind of forced himself on me! I tried to relax and enjoy the sex but felt afterwards that what he did wasn't right and it was just a reminder that he is physically stronger and likes to remind me of that sometimes.

I've been a real idiot but I don't feel safe and I know I have to end it once and for all. So I guess what I'm asking is, should I pretend to be up for going along with all his future plans for the next month and then secretly move to my new house and finish it with him from afar? Or should I stop being a coward and tell him the truth now and take the consequences even though I have a horrible feeling that he might come and make more trouble for my ex and kids and I just don't feel safe? I know this is of my own making but it feels morally wrong to keep saying "I love you too/yes I can't wait until we can go on holiday/move in/you meet the kids" or whatever. But he just gives me the worst feeling - like I haven't yet seen what he's truly capable of... 😔

Jeez I'm an idiot...

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Fluffybrain · 01/10/2017 18:17

He's suggesting you take a break for a while when you've already ended it. Fucking twat can't bear to be in control.

futurefakingfornow · 01/10/2017 18:17

Right he's blocked! And the door is already locked! I hope I'm worrying over nothing and that he won't come round...🤞🏻

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GoldenOrb · 01/10/2017 18:18

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Sweetbell · 01/10/2017 18:18

Block him turn off & the phone give yourself a few hours peace.
You don't owe him anymore of your attention.

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futurefakingfornow · 01/10/2017 18:19

Shit maybe I should unblock him? At least if he escalates things or makes threats I'll have his own written evidence?

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Fluffybrain · 01/10/2017 18:21

No leave him blocked. If you have screen shots of the messages he's already sent that's enough. Also he will probably try to email you if he can't get through by text or whatsapp.

DearMrDilkington · 01/10/2017 18:22

Keep him blocked.

Abbylee · 01/10/2017 18:24

I really do NOT think that the "accident run intos" were accidents. He was stalking you. Be smart and wary. Drop out of sight, off social media, etc. This could get ugly.

...and grow up! Sex is not a good reason to be stupid; twice. You aren't a teenager, you have responsibilities. Go to therapy, this guy is abusive and you are inviting him into your life.

Counterpane · 01/10/2017 18:34

I don't want to be alarmist, but if he only lives six streets away and you are going to be moving soon, will that involve a removals truck or other noticeable vehicle? If it will then you need to make sure that a) he doesn't follow it to your new home, and b) he doesn't find a way to trick them into disclosing your address.

What are your plans for moving day? Can you try to do this when you are sure he is at work, or out of the area?

I agree with pp, the accidental meeting at the supermarket, possibly, but it seems too much of a coincidence that he was at the taxi rank just as you staggered over, drunk.

juliecorrigan · 01/10/2017 18:36

You will create a bigger problem for yourself if you just leg it unannounced. Hell go all crazy with determination to track you down somehow. It might not be as hard as you think. You might also be wise to speak to somebody in your local police department just I. Case, too.

juliecorrigan · 01/10/2017 18:36

I thought that IMMEDIATELY.

Fluffybrain · 01/10/2017 18:39

It's not as simple as being stupid about it sex. Abusive men are often sexually abusive. They use it as a weapon and a reward and will withhold as part of their controlling behaviour. It's common for women in abusive relationships to say that the sex was very good. It's all part of the manipulation. And the dominance thing is all tied in with this. True dominance and submissiveness in a relationship is based on trust and consent. Abusive men push boundaries and coerce women to do things they are not comfortable with. This is so they can eventually push into doing things without consent. It is another way of fucking with women's heads and reeling them back in after the abusive incident. But yes therapy is a good idea.

HappenedForAReisling · 01/10/2017 18:44

Definitely keep him blocked. You already have enough evidence in the messages he's sent so far. He's using WhatsApp because he can see that you've read his messages.

Keeping him unblocked is giving him a way to contact you, it doesn't show that you are serious about not wanting any contact. I would imagine the police would advise you to block him in every possible way, anyway.

honeyroar · 01/10/2017 18:45

His messages are so predictable from the things you've said about him - controlling and blaming you! (I'm not sure why I'm being ignored! Err, well that would be because you got dumped love!).

I'd not block him, but keep him where you can see him, screenshot and save his messages.. Show them your ex, discuss them on here, but don't believe anything he says. You're not rude, your message wasn't rude, he just doesn't like not being in control. And any sign of him turning up or anything ring the police. Keep showing him you mean it. You don't need to see or speak to him, you've been perfectly clear.

And just think, you'd have been round at his house now, getting bossed around and having to sleep with him right now. Don't you feel better where you are?

juliecorrigan · 01/10/2017 18:47

Sorry, I responded after you made your decision. Hope all goes well.

reflexfaith · 01/10/2017 18:51

We can take a break from things if you like, see how you feel after some space?
he's not accepting that it's over and is insisting that you have some obligation to play by his rules

Marinade · 01/10/2017 18:56

It is interesting that he is finding it so hard to align the text you have sent as coming from the person he perceives you to be.... So he resorts to calling you rude because you are refusing to be dominated by him any longer when in fact his behaviour has been alarming, controlling and extremely worrying for you to say the least. You have done absolutely the right thing. I really hope that you manage to extricate yourself from this man with no further ramifications, and please pay heed to the advice about how you choose your moving day and laying low on social media. Good luck.

PinkMoony · 01/10/2017 18:59

If he contacts you again, I would respond with

Do not contact me again, under any circumstances

Then if he does, go to the police

TheBusThatCouldntSlowDown · 01/10/2017 19:01

Laughing at his counter offer to go on a break instead Grin

I doubt he'll go easily either, please be prepared to call the police if he comes around or tries to harass you in any way. Don't reply to him, and don't allow him to guilt trip you, you've done nothing wrong.

AdalindSchade · 01/10/2017 19:09

Recently I had a situation where someone tried to coerce me into sex. I almost went along with it too but managed to assert myself before it went too far. This man used to be important to me, the sex was always amazing. He was not aggressive, not violent, just pushy and not listening to me. I almost agreed to it and was almost up for it by that point. But I didn’t want it and it was absolutely coercive and abusive.
I felt absolutely awful the next day and for several days afterwards. I felt traumatised and tearful. I know what it feels like to go along with something sexually that you don’t want because you think maybe you will get into it or because the fall out of insisting is too much.
He did rape you. It’s hard to accept that someone you love/d and have had great, consensual sex with can also rape or sexually assault you. It creates cognitive dissonance. But that’s what happened. He’s an awful person. Don’t respond.

VioletCharlotte · 01/10/2017 19:09

Keep him blocked. He'll get more and more nasty in his messages and it'll only upset you. Men like him feed off of getting a reaction. No contact whatsoever is the only way to deal with his type.

FizzyGreenWater · 01/10/2017 19:09

I think for it to be harrassment you have to request that he not contact you.

I think I'd leave whatsapp blocked, presumably he might try texting or emailing? - then I would reply stating clearly please do not contact me.

Please be careful. He will almost certainly turn up on the doorstep when you continue to ignore him. Glad your ex is there!

reflexfaith · 01/10/2017 19:10

you've said you want to end things and his response is to maneuver you into negotiating
if you give any ground at all he will push for more concessions

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