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Why is my life continually going down the pan/don't know how much more I can take..PLEASE help.

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Flammingstar · 03/09/2017 22:52

First of all I am sorry for the long post. It is rather complicated and I do have a tendency to waffle!

It's been one thing after another for most of my life, I feel that I am so close to breaking point and I don't know what to do or how to cope.
I was born in a small valleys community when my mother was very young. As a consequence, my mother had to give up her party lifestyle and her opportunity to go to Uni which was rare in a small community during the 70's.
I can not remember much of my childhood except that I was always scared and I tried my best to be invisible because I always felt like a nuisance. I do remember several occasions where I huddled in a corner while she screamed at me till my ears rang and times where I bolted up the stairs to my room or the bathroom before she hit me. I remember one occasion where she slapped me across the face so hard my face stung for hours. I was always made to feel like I didn't matter and wasn't important.
When I became an adult, she criticized me continually. Everything I did was wrong. I did my best to distance myself and at 16 I moved in with my Grandparents. I don't know what I would have done without my wonderful Grandmother. She tried to defend me, but I think that even she was scared of her. I never, ever remember feeling loved or wanted, apart from by my lovely Grandmother who did what she could and was my saviour bless her.
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When I was 17 I met my first bf. He was 2 years older than me and when he finished at uni he was offered a Grad position with a good company a long way from home..we discussed it and decided that he would move to the new location, see how it goes and in 2 months I would join him.
I joined him and for a while we were happy, but he was homesick. A year or so later we returned home when he received a job offer with a fab wage he could not refuse.
We moved back home, got engaged and bought a home. I hoped that this was the start of our lives together, good jobs, a move house, marriage and eventually children. Everything most people dream of.
However that was not to be.....we'd been together over 7 years when he went on a course with work, met 'her' and had an affair. When I found out, we had a massive row and split up.
I had to move out of the home I loved and I was devastated. Unfortunately it also meant that I had to go back to my mother because i had no one else to turn to.
I again moved out as soon as I was able. Unlike a normal/loving mother. The parent I craved, she was not there for me at all. It was always about her. I was desperate for support and for someone to cuddle me, but this was never forthcoming. It was like she never gave a damn if I was upset or hurting.
It is worth me adding here that I did not have any siblings, nor did she or my Grandparents so we were a very small family.
Soon as I could get enough money together I again moved out and got a little flat and a reasonably well paid job.... however i lost my job when my (abusive) bf threw me down the stairs causing very bad injuries inc a broken wrist and a very badly damaged knee. This meant that I had to take a lot of time off sick and inable to fulfil the contract.
I then again moved back to my hometown and had to go back home.. I then decided that I wanted to pursue a degree and started a access course at the local college. I then started at Uni and lived in student accomodation for a while.
During the tough, stressful university years I had no support, financial or otherwise. I'm fact she rarely even got in touch..
By this time both my dear Grandparents were in their 80's and in a poor state of health and unable to be there for me.

I once said to my mother why do you hate me so much?? I am a good person, I work hard, do my best etc, I can't do anymore. I could be a prostitute, thief, murderer etc, why? I don't get it.
I did not receive any real response apart from a mumbled "i don't hate you" and she made me feel even more of a failure as usual. I don't ever remember hearing the words I love you.

When I finished the degree, I started work and met what I thought was a nice guy it was initially a fling fora few months and I really liked him. I later found out that he was sleeping with multiple other women. This was roughly around the time that I discovered I was pregnant.
He didn't want to know and made it clear that he would not support me. I was 36 at this point and i had always desperately wanted children but doubted it would happen.
When I had a heavy bleed at 3/4 weeks and they thought I was miscarrying, I was devastated and i rang him because I had no one else to turn to. He said that he would be at the hospital in 15 mins but failed to turn up.
I had an horrendous 25hr wait to find out whether my beautiful baby was safe or not.
At 19/20 weeks I then had a very late amnoicentecis procedure because some test results had flagged up something unusual.
Two weeks later I had a call at work from a consultant at anti natal saying that I need to see her urgently.
I went to see her and it materialised that the baby had a chromosomal disorder which was very rare.
They were unable to deternine whether the baby was male or female at this stage. The 'disorder" was very difficult to get my head around, but it affected the sex chromosomes that determined determines whether the baby is male/female. For that reason, the female of the disorder is badly affected with a long list of horrendous issues.... known as 'Turners syndrome'.
I was offered a termination at this stage.
If the baby is male it could be that he is severely affected or not at all. It was therefore essential to determine that the baby I was carrying was male. This was established and I decided to go ahead with the pregnancy.
When my gorgeous boy was born, my mother forced herself into being my birthing partner because I did not have anyone else and as I was vulnerable I felt I need what kotrle support she offered.

When gorgeous son was born she interfered and even prevented the midwife from placing him skin to skin. It was.like she owned us both.. the following morning early when I was trying to get my boy to breastfeed, one of the HCA's that was trying to help noticed some breathing issues and my son was placed in special care.
He remained there for 48 hr and was eventually deemed to be ok though with a minor heart prob that needed to be observed.
We were released from hospital and that is when my probs really began.
At this point I was renting a lovely home that was actually owned by my mother. One of 5 buy to let properties that she owned. She had a set of keys and let herself in whenever she wanted..
In the meantime I was exhausted, struggling in all ways, no support or help whatsoever, financial difficulties and in hindsight prob PND too.
I was really struggling, it was overwhelming but I did not want to ask for help because I did not want to be judged and I did not want to be a failure. That is how she always made me feel

However, bit by bit she was undermining me. Everytime she was near us, everything I did was wrong. I was useless/hopeless/a bad mother/a stupid Bitch/a did not care about my son/didn't know what was best for him. She wore me down and made me feel like crap.
I started to resent her and we had arguments. I told her that if she came to my home to have a go she was not welcome and could stay away.. Any breaches of this would result in changing the locks and she would not be allowed to see her Grandson.
After this I received 4 anon calls to social services with accusations that I was abusing my child.
Social services were absolute Bastards
....indtead of offering the support that I was desperate for, they lies and said that they would protect me.and my son

During this time, my mother was not allowed any contact with my son but that didn't stop her following us everywhere, attemping to collect my son from nursery when she was not allowed and even trtomg to get in on a medical appointment and s mothef/toddler group that I was taking part in.
She even paid one of the other mothers to report back what was said..apparently because I said that my son was not sleeping, I was exhausted and i could kill him that meant that I was a danger to him
I even tried to get the police to slap an harassmnt order on her but as it was my own mother apparently it was not true.

Out of the blue, I suddenly received solicitors papers notifying me that she had made a court app to obtain residence (custody) of my son shortly followed by papers for possession of my home/eviction.. The hearings for both were within 2 days.. I had to borrow thousands for a solicitor/ barrister while she had the best and I lost. I lost my precoius, wonderful, only son and my lovely home in the same week..i almost lost it and sadly I did attempt at this point to take my life..i spent 3 days in hospital feeling like shit and I never felt so alone and isolated or low in my entire life.
Fast forward 5 years and things have not got any better. I have been continually prevented from seeing my son.....even attempts to see school pics or reports have been stopped (he goes to private school and she pays the fees)
In the meantime I am struggling working part time on min wage with depression and a severe bad back (2.proplapsed.discs) and it seems like it's one thing after another. Everything is a continual, constant struggle...i don't have anyone and 8 feel so isolated alone and totally empty.
I am so desperate to be loved and wsnged. I am '43, I have fuck all.to offer anyone and I am going to be alone and lonely forever..
No one wants this depressed, sad Bitch and they never will..
All men ever want is to shag and nothing else

Ps. I am not on medication as I hate the side effects and I have had counselling.
I have also recently lost a job I loved and had been at for 8 years or more. I am devastated...i am pursuing a case of unfair dismissal through employment tribunal. Its one thing after another with nooooooo let up in my life ever. I feel likeI need to be cut a fucking break.
I've really had enough big time.

Any help would be so appreciated. I feel like I am just a short step away from breakdown atm.
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OP posts:
Flammingstar · 06/09/2017 00:19

I just want to curl up in a ball and forget the world exists atm. Had an absolute tit full. Would the Universe just give me a fucking break sometme PLEASE ffs.

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Nofilter · 06/09/2017 00:50

What's happening OP? Why don't you share t with us andget it out?

springydaffs · 06/09/2017 07:37

Can you cry out to the universe from your heart? I happen to agree with you on the God front and I find its incredibly important to express that intense rage about 'God', your lot, the capricious evil stuff that goes on etc. It's equally important to cry out for mercy, it doesn't matter to what - to a general sense of good? Perhaps here is a 'general sense of good ' - in which case, go for it xx

Nofilter · 06/09/2017 09:59

Also, I don't think you can afford to let pre conceived ideas about medication get in the way of accepting all and any help out there.

Give them a try and keep an open mind, just imagine if it didn't need to feel this bad?

Good luck xx

Flammingstar · 06/09/2017 10:41

They are not pre-conceived ideas about anti-depressants. The side effects are well documented and horrible. I hate the emotionless zombie feeling that they give you too. Its like I am not human. I would rather get through this without the need for unnecessary chemicals or anything artificial.

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springydaffs · 06/09/2017 11:45

Not all ADs give you that zombie like feeling.

Yes it would be great to get through unbearable horror without meds. In the same way it would be great to get through diabetes without meds. Sometimes meds are essential and, in the scheme of things, a great blessing..

(I speak as someone who has needed ADs at various times in my life and also someone who has recently had to submit to intensely toxic medical treatment when I previously did everything naturally, a herb here and a herb there/diet/water/exercise type of thing. Sometimes things are too bad and too serious)

springydaffs · 06/09/2017 11:48

Re the spiritual aspect. Ime of similar horror and loss to yours I realised the emotional and the physical were shit, I had to explore the spiritual. The third leg. You, and I, can choose how the spiritual looks to us. But do give it a go when the natural is unutterably bleak.

ArgyMargy · 07/09/2017 08:20

There's a reason we have medicine and that's because sometimes our bodies need help. If you had a bacterial infection would you take an antibiotic? If you had a migraine would you take a painkiller? You seem determined to suffer and that comes through in your posts.

Flammingstar · 07/09/2017 08:51

Argy
I am not "determined to suffer" that is ridiculous. Who wants to suffer?? I sure as hell do not want to feel this down but I don't want to have to resort to unnecessary chemicals. I am stronger than that.
Of course if I had an infection I would take medication, but there is no option then. There are other options in this case. I don't ever put any artificial medication in body if I can help it. A lot of conventional medication cause more problems than they solve.

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Oliversmumsarmy · 07/09/2017 09:06

Are you living near where you grew up?

I believe some places are just not good for some people. I grew up in one town and for the whole of my life I was miserable. Everyone around me thought it was a fantastic town.
My feelings could have been caused by my mother. I was put into care regularly as her mental health was always a problem. The day I moved 200 miles away I had just bf, no job, friends or family. We were on our own. As we drove out of town onto the motorway it was like a cloud was lifting off me and the further I got away from the place the happier I got. Despite living in a car at a motorway services for a week before getting our flat I couldn't have been happier
I rarely visit my hometown any more it just makes me depressed just driving up there.

I have moved around the country and lived in loads of different places. One particular area is a beautiful area. Top of the list for where people would like to live. Supposedly a great area. Again I found myself completely depressed and when we moved I agreed to a 21 day completion because I couldn't wait to get out of the place. Agree with others you should try for some visitation rights. Do it whilst he is young. It might be hard at first because he will have been programmed to think you are a monster but don't bad mouth your mother just keep your powder dry and eventually he will see things about how his gm is.

I think the only mistake you made was living in a place owned by your dm. I could see a lot of what you have said happening to me if I had stayed around my mother. Nothing I did or said was right. In the end I stopped speaking or doing anything and was called sullen and lazy.

Keep going and tackle one problem at a time. You are strong and you will get there.

Teebird669 · 07/09/2017 09:27

Hi hun, first of all i cannot stress enough how sorry i am for you and your situation. You have been completely failed by the so called " justice system"..i think you should write a book and I'm serious when i say that.! Can you get on the local council/housing association list for single person flat? Alternatively you could try going to a Y.M.C.A. directly for accomodation no matter what age/gender you are. It seems to me that your mother failed you greatly in every aspect of your life and she is either trying to prove now that she can be a (good) parent/grandparent to a child, (making up for where she failed you), and proving to herself/her mother/ the world that she can do it..or punishing you further for turning to your grandmother as a teen. Is your grandmother still alive? What was your mother's relationship with her like as a child??
The fact that you have all letters/correspondence from how you tried with ss etc is a good thing..have you ever considered trying to take them (ss) to court for their neglect on you?
You have been through a horrendous time and you clearly are a strong woman, whether you feel it or not, i have had anti depressants in the past and they really don't help long term, it's like putting a blanket over your problems and emotions...and one day you have to take the blanket off and deal with these all over again. My heart goes out to you..truly.
Have you thought about working abroad? For example usa as a live in nanny or on summercamp or a kibbutz etc? This may give you a new life with new opportunities..when your son is older he will seek the truth and he will find you..all you can do in the meantime is try again to rebuild your life as best you can, rely on no one but yourself, and only trust those around you who deserve it. You ARE here on this earth for a purpose, and as cruel as life has been to you thus far when your down on the floor...you can only get up.. and those that think they are above you are gonna hit every branch on their way down!
Respect and love to you..you show them girl that you will NOT be trodden on anymore! X Flowers

Grassroots01 · 07/09/2017 09:51

OP, reading your post made me feel sick with sadness, I feel so desperately sorry for you.

I agree with previous posters in saying that you MUST try your hardest to secure a permanent job, get yourself a little house and try and live the best life you can. When everything else is sorted, and you feel strong enough to, try and get visitation rights to your son. I'm sure if you have a stable, job, income and home the courts would surely allow access? Your mother sounds like a complete cunt.

Even if it is 2 years on a waiting list for a councillor, get yourself on it. You will need it, anyone would after what you've been through. Try and stay strong, I know that's hard.

Oliversmumsarmy · 07/09/2017 11:01

I am most aghast at the person who took money to report back to your mother on what was being said. Who the hell does that sort of thing.
Could you go for visitation rights now and then when you have a home go for full custody of your son as the only reason seems to be why he isn't with you now is your mother made you homeless.
Getting visitation rights now and letting your ds get to know you when he is this young is going to be a lot easier than when he is 10 or 11
Personally the area you live in now holds so many bad memories I would be asking the council to house you and take anywhere in the country and start afresh.
Work as many jobs as you can and get yourself back on your feet and visiting your ds even if it means travelling a 100+ miles every week to see him.

Flammingstar · 07/09/2017 11:33

Wow ladies, Thank you so much for your lovely supportive comments. They have helped me feel a little better this morning that is for sure.
Treebird I think that you are largely right that my mother was resentful of my close relationship with my darling Grandmother. Unfortunately she is 93 now and she has severe dementia and is in a care home. She doesn't know who anyone is.
In terms of my mother, she had just turned 17 when she had me. I don't think she was equipt for motherhood and she resented me. She wanted to go to Uni and to continue her party lifestyle and a baby stopped that in its tracks.
With regards to your suggestions of working abroad etc, I would go like a shot, but again financial differculties prevent that. There are also very few opportunities for someone my age at Camp US.....they are looking for people in their 20's ideally.

My housing situation is also a nigjtmare and causing untold stress. Due to a low income/ min wage it's impossible to save, I would never get a mortgage and as a result I have always had to rent privately.
Last year I was offered a promotion with my employer and moved away from my hometown. It seemed like the fresh start I needed so I took it. However, since I have lost my job I have felt isolated and felt that I needed to be close to my dear friends for support. A few weeks ago I applied for a property with a Housing association and I was so pleased to be allocated a 1 bed flat. It meant that finally I would have some peace, privacy and security. I was meant to be moving in on Monday 4th Sept but just 3 days before I had a call. They found out that I had lost my job and as properties are only allocated to those who are employed, the offer was withdrawn.
I was completely gutted. It was the focus I badly needed and am desperate for.
I tried everything to get them to re-consider and I have just had a meeting with Shelter but it doesn't look hopeful.
As if that wasn't bad enough. The landlord of the home I am in at the moment is a pig. He is very rude and suggestive. He has come-onto me and made me feel very uncomfortable. He said the other day that "women are second class citizens and should do as they are told". He suggested that I have sex with the gas engineer and he has called me a "slut" several times.
I am desperate to move, but it's not affordable. I am disgusted that I am a good person, I have never done anything illegal and I have always worked hard and this country has let me down time and time again .
.......i can't tell you how much I want to curl up under the duvet and hope that the world goes away.

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Teebird669 · 07/09/2017 11:48

Tell the housing that you are now self employed and to give you that flat back immediately..then sit down and write that book! ! With regards to kibbutz work..they pay your airfares if you agree to a 3 or 6 month contract of work, they also provide food accomodation and a small pay. Not only will you be helping another community to better themselves..you might meet some interesting and varied people as well as some colourful hippies on the way..you need some strength now more than ever..you are a woman and females are the strongest creatures on this earth.
Man always only ever thinks with his dick..so we have to make allowances for their pig ignorance! X

Flammingstar · 07/09/2017 11:58

They won't re-consider. I have tried everything that I can think of. If I tell them that I am self employed they will want evidence. The book may be a good idea though. English/writing is one of my strengths, maybe I could use that to my advantage. I will also look into that kubbutz thing. It may be the fresh start that I am desperate for.

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Teebird669 · 07/09/2017 12:19

Well i wish you all the luck in the world..writing that book may also help you to heal just a little and it would be solid evidence for your son..you could dedicate it to him.
I think the H/A are discriminating you for not being employed however you only need to apply to gov.uk to get a u.t.r. number to become self employed. Once you have this you can tell h/a of your plans to be self employed but obviously cannot supply any books/proof of earnings as you've only just begun..look hard at their policies n see if you have to earn x amount before being elegible for flat cos I'm sure they can't stipulate that! And they cannot discriminate either..life is a hard battle and everything is a fight..you might not know us or see us..but our support is there..x

Jellyheadbang · 07/09/2017 17:53

OP my 'mum' sounds very similar to yours. Apart from she has no money and has become so clearly unstable that nobody would allow a child to stay in her care but she was a nasty woman to all her family when we were in contact with her.
I can't reply to full thread now as am multitasking but I just want to confirm: I have tried just about every antidepressant going since the early '90s. I have experienced dreadful side effects with every one and the benefits of them were always outweighed by the side effects.
Recently out of desperation I tried a new AD, I stopped crying so much but I had permanent diarrhoea and constant numbness or pins and needles down my left side. Among other things . So I really understand your reticence.
I miss trying to manage it with self care, supplements and healthy eating. I don't always get it right but it's helping.
Im also trying to take control of areas in my lifecycle where I felt powerless. Your situation sounds so scary and out of control for you, whatever you decide to do you need to do it in baby steps. I would even consider approaching the media if you can't find support through the usual channels, find a programme or publication that you find sympathetic and kind and take your story to them. It's so cruel to keep you away from your child. I'm surprised you are still keeping it together.
Use your writing to good effect, bypass the system and appeal appeal appeal, everywhere, approach lawyers, get all over the internet u til you can find the right people to help you.
Wishing you all the best Smile

Flammingstar · 07/09/2017 18:09

JellyHead

Just a quick one from me as I have to go somewhere.
Just wanted to say thank you for your support and suggestions.
I have a ton on my plate atm and don't feel emotionally strong enough to bring my son into my mess. I don't think that would be good for him.

When I was going through the court cases for residence of my son and to evict me from my home a few years back I wrote to or emailed everyone that I could think of. The head of social services for the UK....Isabelle Trowler i think her name was, I also wrote to Sir Edward Timpson who was minister for families at the time, I wrote to my MP, head of the NSPCC and I can't remember who else. They were so concerned that they actually failed to answer or If they did they were dismissive and couldn't have cared less.
I also contacted a press agency to sell a story but as social services were involved, They couldn't get involved unless there were actual proven and evidenced failings and a case of a child being abused/killed etc had been taken to criminal court.
I tried everything at the time and it broke me.

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Flammingstar · 07/09/2017 20:08

As if all that wasn't enough, another gift from Mother nature..... I have horrendous PMT these days and it seems to be getting worse every month.. atm I literally could kill someone (I won't!) Or bawl my eyes out and never stop (more likely!) I've also got Boobs sooooo painful that I can not even touch them and stomach cramps.

I freaking HATE being a woman.
Ps. I take a strong Eve Primrose and Starflower oil which has helped a bit.

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Jellyheadbang · 09/09/2017 06:31

God sounds like you tried everything. You need an activist group like an alternative to Fathers for Justice but a bit less controversial.
With severe pmt worth looking at B vitamins in addition to the oils, also radical diet change if not done already: leafy green veg, eggs, avocado ... I ended up getting a mirena coil plus oestrogen gel, my hellish periods and pmt are a thing of the past, it's literally changed my life. I did have a few months of very light almost content bleeeds with the coil but it was worth it. Took a lot to find a sympathetic dr tho for the oestrogen ...

Jellyheadbang · 09/09/2017 06:34

www.matchmothers.org Mothers apart from their children support group

Jellyheadbang · 09/09/2017 06:38

www.frg.org.uk
The Family Rights Group is a charity providing advice, information and advocacy to parents and families whose children are involved with Children’s Services due to welfare needs or concerns.

Jellyheadbang · 09/09/2017 06:41

You may have seen all these already but posting just in case
childprotectionresource.online/ The aim of this site is to help everyone who is involved in the child protection system

Samoyedydog · 09/09/2017 07:12

OP I don't have any good advice to give you, I wish I did so I could help you somehow. I'm so so sorry all this has happened to you Flowers x