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What's the best way to get rid of this possibly scary guy?

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Transcendence · 31/08/2017 13:30

I started seeing (if you can even call it that) this guy about 4 weeks ago. There were sparks and all that stuff. Now I am strongly suspecting that the sparks and the really strong feelings are because I subconsciously recognise him as an azzhole or at the very least emotionally unavailable, and I am very used to dealing with those.

The first time we met he was charming. Attentive, intelligent, polite and really interested in everything I had to say. The second time we met I noticed that he'd forgotten loads of the details of things he'd already asked me about. Like he asked, "where did you grow up?" when we'd already discussed where I grew up at length the first time we'd met. On this second date we spent many hours together. But I started to see a really different side to him. He'd presented himself before as a hardworking business owner. Now, he suddenly casually mentioned that he used to be a crack dealer for many years and also a cocaine dealer. That he used to even smoke crack himself. And at the moment he smokes marijuana every day. Oh, and he's technically homeless (he is illegally living inside his business premises for the time being.) It was such a strange experience, it was like I was dealing with an entirely different person. I swear, he even kind of looked a bit different.

He also talked about how the two serious longterm relationships he'd had in his life had ended really horribly. It seems the most recent one ended 3 years or so ago, but he still sounded really upset by it all. He said his work is the most important thing in his life now and that what he enjoys is "having different women friends, go over to their house, spend the night, have breakfast , no drama."

As I sat there listening to all of this I felt this sinking sense of extreme disappointment. But it was like I immediately silently glossed over what he'd really said and imagined it wasn't a problem. I even stayed the night (but we didn't have sex). Since then he seems to think we have an arrangement of some kind to maybe have casual sex in the near future and occasionally bother to text each other.

You might be reading this and thinking "What on earth is wrong with this woman?!" Well, this experience has been a wake up call in the sense that it's made me realise I have quite a lot of healing to do on myself. I'm from a background of extreme abuse (from babyhood onwards) and my idea of "normal" treatment is what most people would probably label "abuse." I've been in therapy in the past, for a number of years, and I had really hoped I was well on my way to being healed. But the fact that I got into anything with this man has me worried. What I am looking for is healthy relationships, period. That includes healthy family relationships, healthy platonic friendships, and ultimately a healthy romantic relationship. I want to give and receive love and respect. Clearly this man could not possibly be more unsuitable. What on earth was I thinking?

Before I came to my senses I tentatively set up a date with him for this weekend. He clearly thinks he is coming to my flat for sex (have not had sex with him but have "made out" in the past). It's clearly best I don't see him again. I'm not sure what to say to make this clear to him though. Help?

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Transcendence · 01/09/2017 11:16

@OhyesIam LOL at "piece of slime." He really is terribly awful. I'm kind of grateful the Universe sent somebody so over the top awful as part of my learning curve. It made it that much easier to recognise the signs before it was too late. I want to learn from this experience though, definitely.

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exisaknob · 01/09/2017 11:17

London?

Transcendence · 01/09/2017 12:00

Yes, London. Oh my goodness!

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exisaknob · 01/09/2017 12:04

He might not be. He does sound spookily suspiciously similar though. If his name begins with S. pm me

Transcendence · 01/09/2017 12:08

Holy cr*p, his name DOES begin with S. I've no idea how to send a DM here though

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exisaknob · 01/09/2017 12:10

I'm on the app too... er I will try and figure out PMing you. Just in case it is same one I don't want to add any more publicity x

Rinkydinkypink · 01/09/2017 12:18

Well op it's seems you've done well to avoid an absolute nightmare!

Yes he ticks every box you should avoid. He sounds repulsive. I agree with the thanks but no thanks message then block. Be prepared for him to pop up when you least expect him. He's an opportunistic abuser basically. He has no moral compass and is probably in the psychopathic spectrum (Narcissistic personality disorders at the very least) which makes him so cold, manipulative and unaffected.

He will hunt and he won't stop until he's either bored or he has answer playmate. I suspect he gets through a lot of women. Hopefully they all see sence like you have.x

exisaknob · 01/09/2017 12:18

Pmd you

Rinkydinkypink · 01/09/2017 12:19

Tell us if it's the same person because I'm really nosey 😁

LordBeefCurtain · 01/09/2017 12:24

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loopylou6 · 01/09/2017 12:32

I want to know too lol

exisaknob · 01/09/2017 12:33

OP you have to go on the main site to read a DM I think. I had to to PM you.

Don't panic if it is... I'm here though if you want a chat

exisaknob · 01/09/2017 12:37

Let me know if you don't manage to get the DM trying to think how else I can contact you/you me without us outing each other IRL

exisaknob · 01/09/2017 12:47

If it is and you'd rather not say. Don't panic. Everything you've been told will be fictional. Aside from drug use and dealing which is current.

Disengage for sure is my advice! I can tell you more if you need putting off further x

Transcendence · 01/09/2017 12:53

Oh my God! I got your DM thanks hun. These types of people would most likely use aliases anyway I suspect?

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exisaknob · 01/09/2017 12:55

Yes mine has many... many identities

Transcendence · 01/09/2017 12:56

Yes this look does have LOADS of other women on the go or at least claims to. I could actually see him sort of testing/monitoring my reactions. When he went into this ludicrous monologue about how he goes to a woman's house, beds her, has breakfast, then leaves and moves on to the next, I must have looked really taken aback because his whole demeanour changed (to something very very aggressive) and he questioned my reluctance and tried to convince me this is normal. He also said everybody is married to their work and that a string of constant random hookups is normal -- again he was staring at me when he said this to monitor my reaction. I'm sure I looked sceptical as hell. I simply replied that no my work is not my entire life and no I no do not think it is remotely normal or healthy to never have proper committed relationships with people.

I guess these types of people are constantly seeking new victims and always grooming and monitoring reactions to their sociopath type behaviour.

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Transcendence · 01/09/2017 12:58

I meant 'this loon' not 'this look'

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exisaknob · 01/09/2017 13:01

He sounds SO similar! I do have a photo you can check with on an old phone if I figure it out. I was targeted due to abuse too.
I also know my one thinks he has a new girlfriend and it's not going great... I should have cut altogether. My MH got incredibly tangled up. There's lots of gaslighting. hes quite spookily persuasive. I can see why you would end up involved... why anyone vulnerable would.

SwimmingInWater · 01/09/2017 13:09

Hi Transcendence - I can't really explain what I wrote (except in prosaic terms). So maybe will leave for you to interpret in a way thats right for you. However, I will add at my time of life, I do look around and notice how society encourages women to very much focus on men and relationships to the exclusion of so many interesting and amazing things. As a woman I would say always put yourself at the centre of your world.

P.S. How weird if he's the same guy to exisaknob, but yeah these kind of guys get through women like there's no tomorrow ...

OstentatiousWanking · 01/09/2017 13:22

OP you might want to ask MNHQ to delete this thread. Some of it is very identifying.
FWIW I think you have done amazing to have come so far.
I'm just starting therapy and if I'm as sorted as you after its not so scary.

Ceto · 01/09/2017 13:31

So have you told him the relationship is over? How did he take it?

RidingRossPoldark · 01/09/2017 13:33

Swimminginwater, a couple of things you've said have really resonated with me. Women are given conscious and subconscious messages from childhood that men are something to aspire towards attracting or as you say 'the prize', men do not get that sort of message about women, they are told that women are something to be desired, the more the merrier. I think young men and women are often looking for two completely different things from each other and this causes a lot of confusion. Women are looking for something from men that they are simply unable or not interested in giving. I believe things even out a bit when both parties are older but some folks don't change Smile

Transcendence · 01/09/2017 13:48

Not heard from him, and I won't hear from him until he's trying to coax me into meeting him to finally have sex. Hopefully he's tired of trying to get his leg over already and won't even try to contact me again.

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Footle · 01/09/2017 15:00

Make sure your TV company will protect your address.