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How to deal with workplace affair mess

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stuckonabarbedwirefence · 27/08/2017 22:28

Please can anyone help me move on from this slightly ridiculous situation. It's going round and round in my head and I feel totally stuck with it all.

Basically, I'm divorced, single and last year came close to having an affair at work with a (married) colleague. He and I had always got on well, he was always very supportive to me at work and I'd always found him very attractive, but I knew he was married so that was that. There was chemistry, I liked him as a person but I didn't think of him in that way. I don't go for married men. Anyway, fast forward to last autumn and this guy - I'll call him A - told me that he'd separated from his wife. He'd also moved out from their house but they were having counselling apparently. Over the next couple of months, we grew a bit closer and we went out a few times, usually work related. We kissed, but didn't sleep together, it didn't get that far. He held back a bit and he didn't try to get me into bed. But - god, how I liked him. I really really fell for him in all honesty and was more sexually attracted to him than anyone I've ever met. As I didn't know where I stood though, I didn't really make the strength of my feelings obvious to him. We had a very honest chat one evening when I quizzed him about his marriage, and he was honest about the fact he was still intertwined so I decided to cool things. Anyway, just after Xmas, it was clear he was trying to work things out with his wife and they ended up buying a new house together. That was that, I thought. I was secretly disappointed but was happy for him and accepted it.
However, about a month ago, a female colleague of mine at work, who I know quite well - let's call her B - told me that he'd propositioned her when they went out on a works do. Everyone was pretty drunk apparently but he'd came on to her, and had been very lovely with her. B has already had an affair with another senior colleague (man A doesn't know about this) and she's told me that she's very attracted to A, and is interested in sleeping with him. He told her his marriage is a mess, that he and his wife are only together for the kids, apparently she had a fling. He'd told me similar things but not the fling. Anyway I've wondered whether his play for her was true or not but since then I've noticed them disappearing into meeting rooms together at work and having lots of little chats. As B sits opposite me this is hard to avoid and I just feel very uncomfortable with it all. Basically, the news has hit me really hard - it's one thing to think he's back with his wife but to hear that he came on to my colleague is different, and I did really like him. I'm jealous I suppose but equally, he appears to be a player so no good. Another issue is that I was open with B about my 'friendship' with man A, mainly as the chemistry was pretty obvious and she knew how I felt about him but now it looks as if they might have an affair. Since then, our friendship has really cooled, on her part not mine, which I also feel a bit upset about. I trusted her with some quite private stuff and I feel like she's totally dropped me to distance herself from me, presumably as she feels guilty. So I've lost what I thought was a good female friendship in a very male dominated environment, and A has also cooled towards me, when I thought we were genuinely friends ( I worked hard to maintain a good working relationship despite the attraction bit etc). It all feels really crap and It's affecting me at work. I'm even thinking of leaving as it's making me miserable and paranoid. However, I have no claim over A at all, and they are both obviously free to do what they want.

Please anyone tell me how to move on from it and feel better about it all!

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OliviaStabler · 28/08/2017 05:50

I agree about the lucky escape. I don't believe for a minute anything he has said about his marriage. He spun you a story but when that did not result in sex, he moved onto someone else who is no doubt giving that to him. Sorry you've had to go through this Flowers

Barbaro · 28/08/2017 06:24

How do you know he was honest about his marriage? He could have a happy marriage really and he told you lies for sympathy so you would sleep with him to make him feel loved. Thankfully you didn't, but he then told you further lies about 'working on his marriage' to push you to one side, and then move onto the next available woman to try it on with. He then also tacked on extra lies, 'the fling his wife had', to try harder to make the new one fall for it. She has fallen for his lies and probably thinks he will actually leave his wife for her. He never will, not in a million years, even if he is caught. Avoid him like the plague.

Silverdream · 28/08/2017 07:38

You're hurt that the person you thought he was isn't.
You feel rejected and not special or important to this man. Seeing him so easily move on to someone else makes what you had less real in your eyes.
It's ok to feel like this. Maybe at the time his feelings for you were genuine but he's moved on. Some people can have intense feelings for someone but they die very quickly.
Some people are very clever at reading people and can be with them exactly how the person would like or find attractive. This is the worst head mess for the victim as they can't trust people in future relationships.
You need time to readjust in your head what your relationship meant to him which was very different to how you felt it.
You need to start feeling anger towards him. It's at that point you can start seeing what a shallow idiot he is.

sandgrown · 28/08/2017 07:48

Well said Mojominsky. Hang in there OP. It will hurt like hell now but in time you will see you had a lucky escape. Try and fill your spare time so you don't dwell on what happened Flowers

SockEatingMonster · 28/08/2017 07:51

What a horrid situation you're in Sad

He could have been 'genuine' and still be a twat. One doesn't rule the other out. Selfish people often feel very genuinely very sorry for themselves, genuinely believe they are the hard done by one, and genuinely believe it's ok to lead others on to get the attention and support they feel entitled to.

HighlyCompetentExWife · 28/08/2017 07:58

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Anasnake · 28/08/2017 08:00

He's not genuine, he's not honest and he plays women like a fiddle. He wants you to be jealous to boost his precious ego - don't fall for that crap

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BR62Y · 28/08/2017 08:35

From a mans perspective, for this guy, the thrill is in the chase leading up to sex not in the sex itself. I guess he could have had that reading between the lines but it was him more than you who stepped back from this. As for kissing, in his mind this might not be seen as that bad. Sex might be the line that he was heard his wife say "if you ever sleep with anyone else we're done" - well she didn't say if you ever kiss anyone else, send them nice messages, etc etc....

He may well have a poor marriage (in his mind) - be interesting to see what his wife would say if you asked her. How old is he?

There will be some sense of entitlement (the high earner thing is a big one with men who do this sort of thing) - it's a sort of I can do what I want because it may be that his wife and family do rely on this income to a degree, he knows that and knows that even if caught, his wife may choose to stay with him anyway and clearly he can talk so he would be confident in his own ability to get things back on track.

I would see it as a learning curve and let your other friend just find out for herself. He may move on to full affair because usually over time, this time of man changes his goalposts. New house, big mortgage, he paying for it, wife can't afford it herself, it's her dream house, he therefore feels more safe that she wouldn't end the marriage etc etc etc (she may be able to but this is a typical big earning male mind at work and I am coming at it from his thinking)

stuckonabarbedwirefence · 28/08/2017 08:38

Thank you all. Such clever, insightful replies, you are all amazing, I've just re-read them all over and over again. I think I'm going to print this off and read every morning before I have to go into the office!

Some of your comments have really hit the nail on the head actually. Yes, he has got excellent soft people skills, he's very charming and fun. When that's focused on you, and just you, it's very alluring. But I did always think, where's this going - a few moments and angsty sex (however good) wasn't really enough.

I remember bumping into him once with his wife and children (at a fete, he wasn't physically by her side when we met, she was running a stall), and he was really, really cold towards me. It upset me at the time but it made me think he could be pretty ruthless.

Thanks to you all.

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AJPTaylor · 28/08/2017 08:42

You have better judgement than your colleague. You value yourself and your integrity more. The last firm i worked for i was astounded at the amount of this that went on. To the point that i felt like handing out a list to new starters

stuckonabarbedwirefence · 28/08/2017 08:45

Yes, BR62, you are right. He is a big earner, one of the highest paid in the office, and his wife works part time for a charity. They bought a big house, nice area, earlier this year.

Apparently his wife had a fling with one of his friends, but who knows.

He keeps getting tile samples sent to the office (!) and is obviously having building work done which doesn't seem like someone who's going to leave!

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HighlyCompetentExWife · 28/08/2017 08:48

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AnnieAnoniMouse · 28/08/2017 09:01

He wasn't necessarily lying to you about how he felt about you. As it was you that kept cooling it, he might have felt that you weren't interested in a relationship with him, even if he was single, that might be why he didn't 'come back' to you when 'trying again' with his wife wasn't stopping him seeing anyone else. Maybe if you had been honest about how you felt, he might have 'come back' to you.

6 or so months on he's started chatting up someone else, if he was single, that would be totally reasonable. It's a bit crass for it to be your friend, but you & he weren't 'serious', so once again, not that big of a faux pas really (if he was single).

However, think about this. Would you have wanted your (ex) DH to have been doing what he was doing with you (going out, kissing, discussing your marriage) while you were going to counselling & trying to make your marriage work? From your point of view what you did was 'something & nothing', would you have felt the same if you had been the wife in this? I'm not blaming you at all. I'm just saying, in the future would you want to be married to him knowing that's what would happen if you had any relationship problems?

As for what you do, if you like your job & the company I'd give it until after Christmas. See if you can let what I've said make you feel less hurt by his behaviour and see if your friend comes to her senses. She's bound to either see sense or get hurt by him before too long. Of course her distancing herself is hurtful, but as far as she knows you two were just friends, so she's not really to know she's stepping on your toes. You need to think about your career, as well as your heart.

stuckonabarbedwirefence · 28/08/2017 09:02

Superficial, boozy, sleepings-together...

^ This. Our office is quite like this. It's a male environment and competitive. I've begun to think of it as normal 😕

I have no objections to the thread being carried on.

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AnnieAnoniMouse · 28/08/2017 09:06

HighlyCompetent. I think it would be better to start another thread. I'm sure stuck doesn't need this thread popping up all the time beyond the point it's useful to her. You could put a link to it here and we could come over.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 28/08/2017 09:07

Cross posted. If you don't mind stuck then that's up to you. I just wouldn't want it popping up every few weeks myself.

stuckonabarbedwirefence · 28/08/2017 09:09

I did tell him I liked him - he knew that. I was honest about it, just didn't make the extent of my feelings clear. I'm sure he could tell anyway because I was so attracted to him, I must have let that show.

After I'd cooled things, we went out one evening (in a group, work related), and we ended up leaving together (at his instigation) and going for a drink by ourselves. He told me he couldn't stop thinking about me etc etc i.e.: he kind of reeled me back in after I'd distanced myself. Then he 'dropped' me after that. I felt that he did that just to prove to himself I still found him attractive.

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BR62Y · 28/08/2017 09:17

How old is he ?

stuckonabarbedwirefence · 28/08/2017 09:35

He's 45. Classic midlife I suppose. I think he's been married 8 or 9 years, they've got 2 kids.

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FinallyDecidedOnUserName · 28/08/2017 09:38

Wow. He's nasty!!!

PaganGoddessBrigid · 28/08/2017 09:42

This man sounds right a right player. He doesn't care where he 'plays' either.

Sorry you lost a friendship out of his inability to look any further than the end of his nose for somebody to have an affair with. Sad

Act normal around her. Fake normal. But without any confidences.

Brew
PaganGoddessBrigid · 28/08/2017 09:46

Shock omg at the selection of tiles for the new dream house arriving at the office. That does not sound like a man who has any intention of dissolving his marriage.

You believed what he said because there was no more to go on than what he said, but is your colleague witnessing the tiles arriving to the office as well?

PaganGoddessBrigid · 28/08/2017 09:58

I know it's not your problem now it's your colleague's, but from what you've said about him, I would also seriously doubt that his wife has had a fling with his friend!

Does he seem the type who would over look that?! Men need to have zero ego and a really healthy self-esteem and have the ability to self-reflect, be aware, communicate, forgive............. Does that sound like him??
But maybe, he's not 'in love' with her any more and doesn't care. if that is the case, would he move them all to a bigger house?
He'd still be angry with his friend. Would a male friend dare do that to him? Can you picture it?!

He seems the type who would be fighting tooth and nail to make sure she never saw a cent of his pension.

stuckonabarbedwirefence · 28/08/2017 10:09

I'm not sure Pagan. But I think what you say is astute. I get the impression that the outward trappings are very important to him - house, successful job, a seemingly good marriage etc. He wasn't ready to give up on that when I was talking to him, and mentally he hadn't left the marriage, which is why I backed away. Having gone through a divorce, I know that mental shift when you know it's over is really a big part of leaving.

Who knows about the affair. I agree, he doesn't seem like the humble type - so to accept it must mean he's very tied to her. To add the detail about his friend is another thing, as that's obviously awful for him if it's true. Perhaps she has had enough of his flirtations over the years and wanted revenge. Maybe he now wants an affair, so they're 'quits'. Apparently, according to my ex-friend colleague, he and his wife had discussed an open relationship - but to me this sounds like a transparent ploy to get her to sleep with him, under a sort of 'official framework'!!

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