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How to escape this narcissist?

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turquoisequeen · 27/08/2017 07:07

Just after some advice from anyone who has managed it. Please.
I've had nearly 9 years of the abusive controlling knob and I've had enough. We have 5 children together. I was preparing to leave and told him a few home truths about his behaviour. He is emotionally abusive, I dread him coming in the house, I look forward to him going out or to work, I'm scared of his moods, his silent treatment. The lot. I cried. A lot. He cried also and was very apologetic and promised to try to change as long as I helped him by pointing out what he does wrong.
He denied ever stopping me from working, he denied alienating me from family and friends, he denies needing professional help.
So fast forward a couple of weeks of him trying. And jobs have been done round the house, children have been played with instead of ignored.
He is desperate for attention off me. I just don't want to give it. I don't want to cuddle or kiss him. I don't want to have sex. I don't even want to sleep in the same bed. I woke up yesterday morning to him grabbing my boob then getting stroppy when I made him stop (the toddler was lay between us).
Anyway, last night I went to bed early as have been under the weather for a fortnight. He followed me to say he's making an effort and now it's my turn to try harder. He "thrives with affection" and I'm not giving him enough. He needs the kissing and cuddling and odd grope to get him through the day and apparently I'm a cold human being. This is all his words. So I know this can't go on. I can't live with this. I'm exhausted.

So how do I get out? Preferably without a massive fallout if that's at all possible. I have children's centres aware of situation and a visit from a social worker last week. That was a lovely experience. He flat refused to speak to her at first. But she hinted we need a plan to get him out of the house and is coming back next week to see me alone.

Please help. I'm desperate.

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Notreallyarsed · 27/08/2017 13:29

Coin that's utter shite, unmitigated shite. By your reckoning I was responsible for getting battered up and down the house, being raped, being scared out of my mind for many years. By your logic anyone who suffers abuse is responsible, rather than the abuser. You need to stop posting unhelpful, damaging comments on posts where the OP is asking for help and NOT responsible for what is happening to them.

Notreallyarsed · 27/08/2017 13:34

Ah you're new I see Coin and have been busy spamming other threads with your goady comments too. Ugh and I fell for it.

CoinOperatedGurl · 27/08/2017 13:39

Yes I accept my part in what happened. Since when is accepting that there are two people in a relationship being wrong?

Lauralou69 · 27/08/2017 14:01

Coin, you have anti-social Personality Disorder, it shows!

Notreallyarsed · 27/08/2017 14:16

Coin so because of your own experience you think it's ok to blame anyone who was a victim of abuse? You absolutely disgust me. There were two people in my marriage, but only one was a bully, a rapist, a violent abuser and an arsehole. If you blame me for that, then it says more about you than it ever could about anyone else.

Birdsgottafly · 27/08/2017 14:18

OP have you told him that you want him to leave?

Have you told the SW that you want to end your relationship, but need support?

CoinOperatedGurl · 27/08/2017 14:22

I don't blame you at all. My partner is serving a life sentence for what he did to me. I'm not to blame for his actions but I do accept my part in how things turned out. Stop twisting my words please.

Notreallyarsed · 27/08/2017 14:26

Coin I'm twisting nothing, you implied and also stated that two people are responsible for what happens in a relationship where there is abuse and that is categorically untrue.
You have clearly been through an horrific ordeal, and I am very sorry for that, but please, do not tell survivors of abuse that they deserved/caused/bear responsibility for it. It is wrong, damaging and extremely unfair.

turquoisequeen · 27/08/2017 14:38

Birds I told him a few years ago. He said exactly what coin said up thread. I was the one with the problem so I should leave and he would quit his job and look after the kids. Even though I was still breastfeeding two of them and we were renting off my mother at the time

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turquoisequeen · 27/08/2017 14:41

I suspect my mother also shows narcissistic traits but don't want to look too closely really. She said it's my fault for letting him get away with it for so long and that at least it's changed now and then carried on talking about one of her problems. Maybe I wasn't direct enough when talking to her to actually say I NEED HELP AND SUPPORT and because he hasn't actually hit me it's not bad enough for me to leave

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CoinOperatedGurl · 27/08/2017 14:42

My friend left in a similar situation to you. She left him with her two children, one is a 5 month old baby. It worked out better for her. Is hat an option for you?

turquoisequeen · 27/08/2017 14:43

I will speak to the SW next week about her visit the other day. We couldn't speak properly as he was in the next room. I know they can help. I know I need to stop playing it down and covering for him. I know this is real. But still feel like I'm making it up and being a bit of a drama llama when there are people out there who are being hit and are being hurt that need help more than I do

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turquoisequeen · 27/08/2017 14:45

I cannot leave my children with him. I can't even pop to the shop without them. Me and the kids are a package deal. And the dog. I don't doubt he'd really hurt my dog

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Papafran · 27/08/2017 14:46

Coin has serious, serious issues and is a highly disturbed individual (if she is not a troll). She has been posting on other threads saying some frankly quite horrifying things. Give a wide berth I think.

Papafran · 27/08/2017 14:49

Jesus, Coin, are you even human? He is abusive- why the fuck would she leave her children with him?

Flowers OP, I hope you manage to get in touch with women's aid and that the social worker can help you put into place a way to get him out.

BoneyBackJefferson · 27/08/2017 14:56

turquoisequeen
And why should I leave? Why should he stay?

just an opinion on this OP ( I don't think that there is a correct answer)

If you leave you can take the children and choose a place were he cannot (theoretically) find you.
You and your children can have a new start, new school, new lives and the rubbish can be dealt with at a distance, not just the divorce but no-mol orders (if needed) pick ups for children visiting etc. and it gives you a breathing space.

Why you should stay, its your home, you and your children are settled, Why should you be the one to uproot your life because of his (and they are his) actions.

There are negatives to both

In the end the question that needs answering is which will make your life easier and benefit you more.?

turquoisequeen · 27/08/2017 15:03

We moved here less than a year ago, the children had to move school. Next week four of them will all be at the new school. It wouldn't be fair to ask them to start again. I haven't made a single friend since moving so wouldn't affect me. However my house is perfect, it's big enough for growing children and walking distance to school and four bed council or HA houses are like gold dust in my county.

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Lauralou69 · 27/08/2017 15:14

Perhaps you could ask him to move out 'temporarily', while you 'work' on your marriage.........if you know what I mean??

turquoisequeen · 27/08/2017 15:17

He doesn't believe in 'taking a break'

If it's over it's over

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TitaniasCloset · 27/08/2017 15:20

I have no real advice I just want to say sorry you are going through this Flowers

DawnMumsnet · 27/08/2017 15:28

Hi all,

So sorry for the delay here. We're moving this thread over to our Relationships topic at the OP's request.

Lauralou69 · 27/08/2017 15:32

Turquoise I meant it as a ploy to get him out of the house. If you want it to be over tell him and tell him to leave. If he won't leave then you are going to have to make some tough decisions.

chocolatecookiess · 27/08/2017 15:38

He could be my abusive partner. He is even using the same words as him. This is him trying to do the "right thing", not because he cares about that but because he wants to take the situation back to him being in total control. He gets impatient that this isnt happening fast despite his "efforts" and he is trying to manipulate you by blaming you that you are not doing your part. As soon as everything goes back to him having total control and all he needs met , he will become the same as he was before

thefalloutwillbeawful · 27/08/2017 15:54

If you have nowhere else to go op then I suggest you talk to him but I doubt he's going to leave without a fight. Also if his name is in the tenancy then you may have a problem.

This is why there is a legal process called divorce.

Have you tried to get legal aid OP?

turquoisequeen · 27/08/2017 16:06

Haven't even looked as far as legal aid. Don't I need to get past the marriage ending stage first? Should I be getting a lot more organised??

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