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Friend upset with me, advice please

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ilovewelshrarebit123 · 15/08/2017 16:19

She's upset and I'm upset, and I want to sort it out asap.

She's stubborn so won't make first move, I'm a person who stews about things, so I won't be able to sleep.

I've been to my parents holiday home for a week, I invited her and her two children to come for a weekend. There was no cost involved to any of us, as my parents don't charge.

From the moment they arrived her 15 year old son was difficult. Wifi was 'crap', Welsh people are stupid, he had a comment for anything anyone else said usually derogatory. Some of the views he had were racist, homophobic and frankly shocking. He told me I was stupid as I didn't vote UKIP and I actually felt inferior as he wanted a debate for everything I said.

He glorified getting pissed and said drugs are cool! All said in front of my 10 year old. It's all hot air and I know he's showing off, but it was embarrassing.

My friend did check him but most of this was said on the sly so she wasn't aware of most of his comments.

Last night, our last night, we had a lovely meal, few drinks and it was great. He wanted a can of cider, she said no and he chucked a major strop. He decided to go for a walk, but didn't come back. It was dark, pouring down and his mum was very upset.

She went to look for him, but couldn't find him. He doesn't know the area, it's dark lanes and weather was awful. We'd both had a drink so couldn't drive, so just as I went to ask a guy across the way if he could take one of us out to look for him in his car, he flounced back in, like nothing was wrong. He'd walked 45 minutes each way to the next town which he'd already been told no to in the day.

Massive argument with his mum, she cried he stropped. I left them to it and said nothing. However he then tried to spark the argument up again when we were all watching tv, and I said enough, it's over, leave it there and have some respect for your mum and me.

This morning he's sulking, she's decided 'we' all pick at him so that's why he's upset. She said I obviously didn't want him to come as I'd text her to say wifi wasn't working and to please tell him so he knew this was the case.

She said I'd undermined her by telling him to stop, I accept it probably wasn't the best idea to say something but my DD was upset with his shouting and I'd had enough.

She said it's just the way he is and we should accept it. I told her I refuse to be abused and ridiculed by a 15 year old and i will defend myself if he starts.

So we've had words and now she's pissed off with me. Do I call her in a few days, say I'm sorry for 'undermining' her 🤔 but maintain I'm still entitled to defend myself when a rude 15 year old is shouting.

Or do I wait for her to contact me, we've been friends for a long time and never fall out so I'd like to get it sorted.

Any advice a appreciated.

OP posts:
Ellapaella · 15/08/2017 19:29

RainyApril gives excellent advice here op. I think your friend is embarrassed - give her a few days to get some perspective but don't apologise, she may feel over whelmed by the teenage years but you didn't do anything wrong by telling him to stop.

CremeFresh · 15/08/2017 19:37

YANBU at all in pulling this boy up on his behaviour. My DD was awful from age 14-17 and life was hell. I have been your friend on many occasions so can sort of see why she didn't go in too heavy with him as it tends to make things worse. She should not, however, be making excuses for him.

pinkyswizz · 29/12/2017 11:36

Hi ilovewelshrarebit123
I am really surprised by the negative feedback you have received from this post.
As you know, raising children on your own is hard work! Your friends teen is at a horrible age, figuring out where he stands in this world. I think it is harder for boys than girls, especially if there are few adult male role models in his life.
He may well be jealous of your relationship with his mum and be acting out on that. Seeing his mum relaxed and happy when he himself is in turmoil.
I think you need to build on your relationship with him, aside from your friend. He needs to know that you 'see' him, that you will listen to him and respect his views, yet gently challenge him when you disagree. His behaviour shows that he doesn't feel 'liked'. He doesn't 'like' himself.
His mum struggles to manage his behaviour at the moment and he will play on this, but that doesn't make her a bad mum. Parenting isn't easy at the best of times and I think most of us that have experienced a difficult breakup carry a lot of guilt for not providing the 'perfect' family. Go easy on her, go easy on him (& be kind to yourself too). His behaviour is not acceptable, but don't reinforce his beliefs that he is uncontrollable or unlikeable. Think of things that you do like about him, his forthrightness for example!!
If she is anything like me, she will just block any thought of 'fixing' things with you, as she has a lot to manage with 2 children on her own and therefore keeps in her life what she can control and brings her good feelings and block anything else out.
So, with that said, I think that someones suggestion of inviting her out, just the two of you, is a nice one. It shows that you value her friendship more than his behaviour. Let her know (when things are calm) that you found the week difficult which was a shame as you think he is a great kid and remember that him sparking an argument was just attention-seeking like a 6 year old. He's still a young lad at 15, he's not a 25 year old man and can still learn a lot from you, actions speak/teach louder than words.
Don't ever apologise for your actions, unless you think they deserve an apology. Stand your ground. Firm but fair, isn't that we all want from our parents/friends/partners?

MarmaladeIsMyJam · 29/12/2017 11:39

@pinkyswizz I’m assuming it’s sorted now, this was months ago!

pinkyswizz · 29/12/2017 11:42

Ha! Yeah I just realised that now!! I saw it on the homepage and got me interested!
@ilovewelshrarebit123.......how is it going??

Familyof5woop · 29/12/2017 17:05

Please for the sake of humanity and future partners/family of his do not apologise! He will think he is right!

Familyof5woop · 29/12/2017 17:06

Ah fell for the zombie!

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