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Objective thoughts desperately needed

57 replies

Chloe421 · 05/08/2017 08:42

Hi there,
I don't usually post online but currently feel at my wits end and would really appreciate some objective thoughts on my situation. Apologies for the long text to follow.
I have been with my SO for 7 years. A few years into the relationship things became very tough. My SO was going through a difficult time emotionally and projected this onto the relationship. This stemmed from feelings he had not dealt with from the past and a lack of self insight. He became emotionally and financially abusive and it culminated in me losing my life savings, my career and my self worth. I was willingly supporting him financially at this time but it went above and beyond... I became so disillusioned that I stupidly funded large material objects and I much later found out a substance habit before things came to a head when I finally said no and got thrown out of the property in which we lived. For a time I had nothing and was homeless. I had always been very responsible and emotionally aware in my approach to life, finances and relationships so the events and their ramifications had a big impact on how I felt about myself. I blamed myself and harboured a lot of guilt. This said for the past 4 years I have worked to rebuild my life, started a business which is doing ok and tried to like myself again etc. Whilst we had a period of one years separation. (I had no intention of us getting back together) we ended up re establishing the relationship around 3 years ago. My SO pushed for this and has worked hard on understanding himself and his behaviours since the tough time. Since getting back together he has been very supportive and the relationship has been quite healthy in regards to communication and day to day events. I found it very difficult to trust him initially however this has been getting better. I still have a lot to deal with financially from the past events and whilst my work is now going well I do not have a lot of disposable income. I work very hard and hours can be long as do many people even when in a relationship and this sometimes causes disagreements. We are living in a house he owns because I am unable to get a mortgage due to my now terrible credit score. This has been very embarrassing but it is what it is. Recently my SO has voiced that he doesn't feel like we are a proper partnership and thinks I should be putting more money into the relationship to enable us to do more things together. I have made sure that I have contributed half to things we have done in the past few years and pay a monthly contribution to the bills, house etc. Knowing he is thinking this way has really troubled me, given past events and I feel as though he has no comprehension of how hard things have been and why it is that my life revolves around work and debt. Even though we have been through this many times. I can see from his point of view that he wants us to begin really moving forward but I am still living with consequences of past events which realistically is going to be the case for years to come. He is currently very focussed on his needs and these being met and feels that he has been more than understanding for the past three years and now really wants things to change. He now has a small business that is doing well (this is something we had worked on together before the period of separation) and is fortunate not to have to worry about money. He has amassed savings with which he can feel secure. I find myself questioning myself. Should I be doing more or are his thought processes shallow and a cause for alarm bells?

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Crumbs1 · 05/08/2017 08:53

This doesn't feel like a healthy partnership to me. Sorry.
It sounds complex with lots of blaming and not much sharing.
You buying too much and taking illegal drugs was your decision- but you seem to hold him responsible. It's brilliant you've come out the other side and good your on a more positive trajectory.

He sounds like he blames your previous behaviour for the current imbalance in your contributions.....and he might have a point. You are still living with the repercussions and that will impact.

In a partnership everything is shared equally- be it finances and the need for restraint, workload, decision making and planning for current and future life together. This bit feels like it's missing and there is a basic lack of trust and a lot of blame being wrapped up in psychobabble. You need a more grounded honesty and commitment if this is going to work not analysis and retrospective navel gazing.

PopcornNRedwine · 05/08/2017 08:58

I think you need to read your post back.

There is resent and blame festering away. Paired with financial overspending and abuse. Please rethink this.

You're back on your feet and working really hard. Please don't let him suck you back in.

QuiteLikely5 · 05/08/2017 08:59

Ahem - he used your life savings to fund himself and his habits and now he is not prepared to repay you for that?

How on earth did he ruin your credit score but keep his intact?

Strange how he no longer needs you when he is in his feet financially?

He sounds like a con artist to me!

category12 · 05/08/2017 09:01

I'm sorry, I'm not clear on who was doing what.

Am I right that you funded his big purchases and his substance abuse, and wound up in debt? And now he's got savings and a house and is not aiding you to redress the debts incurred.

Or was it your purchases and substance abuse?

If it's the first, he's still financially and emotionally abusing you.

therootoftheroot · 05/08/2017 09:03

Op funded her partners substance habit! Not her own

ThePinkOcelot · 05/08/2017 09:04

So you lost your life savings through him? Your career and self worth? Yet he now has savings and a business and doesn't have to worry about money?sorry if I've got that wrong, but something sounds totally off to me there!

Farmerswife4life1984 · 05/08/2017 09:07

What is SO ?

category12 · 05/08/2017 09:08

Basically he's a bad person. If I caused someone I loved to be in the shit financially, I wouldn't sit around on my savings whingeing about moving forward. I would be doing my darnedest to get you solvent again.

Chloe421 · 05/08/2017 09:13

Thank you for your responses. I don't think points came across particularly clearly in my post. Apologies for the psychobabble. I have never spent irresponsibly or taken illegal substances. It was my SO that was doing so.

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Quartz2208 · 05/08/2017 09:15

So you bankrupted yourself for him and he now is financially stable and rather than pay you back is asking for more money.

What do you get out of this relationship

category12 · 05/08/2017 09:16

Op, he's still financially and emotionally abusing you. You need to get out.

wizzywig · 05/08/2017 09:18

Yeah what is a SO?

therootoftheroot · 05/08/2017 09:19

significant other

DownTownAbbey · 05/08/2017 09:30

After what he did to you he should be paying for EVERYTHING and have put your name on the house. Maybe, once he had proved he was
A) sorry and
B) trustworthy
Maybe then you could consider splitting bills 50/50. He OWES you, financially and emotionally!

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

How fucking dare he demand that you invest financially in this bizarre shitstorm of a relationship with cash?

So you are paying rent and bills but aren't to own any equity in your home? Does that feel like a life partnership plan? What is he investing in your future? His winning personality?

Get away before you lose more money and perspective.

Crumbs1 · 05/08/2017 09:36

So sorry. In which case you need to stop being his crutch.

Chloe421 · 05/08/2017 09:39

He has paid back money for some specific purchases since we got back together. I don't pay towards the mortgage on his property and would never do so without some form of equity agreement in place. I wouldn't want him to do any more financially... not after pity or someone to dig me out of a hole that was partially my choice to fall into. He is not a monster just has lived quite a self involved life, is not very self aware and emotionally young for his 45 years of age. There are obviously positive qualities to counter this. I wouldn't be in the relationship if he had not over time appear to have changed his ways but this recent revelation of his sparked concern that things had potential to revert and I just wanted some thoughts from others outside it. Yes he does now have a business that is doing well but works very hard also.

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Jermajesty · 05/08/2017 09:43

The alarm bells would be deafening.

Chloe421 · 05/08/2017 09:45

Thanks for this. If the situation was reversed I would be thinking this way also. I would feel the desire to spend my life making sure that person knew I had their back and wanted to make things right. In his mind years have passed and he has done his bit... now it should all be in the past and we should be able to have a normal partnership and move forward.

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category12 · 05/08/2017 10:23

It wouldn't be out of pity but out of responsibility.

Your credit is wrecked, you're paying your way living together, yet he's sitting pretty with property and savings you have no claim on, so he's basically feathered his nest while you're paying for his mistakes and have nothing to fall back on.

This isn't a partnership. One person shouldn't be struggling and have no security, while the other is alright Jack.

Chloe421 · 05/08/2017 11:16

Thanks, category12 I do see your point

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thestamp · 05/08/2017 16:27

The reason your op is so difficult to understand (who had the drug problem, etc) is because you chose language that purposely concealed his responsibility for all this shit. This implies that you STILL don't hold him accountable for fucking up your life. It's as if these things just "happened" and he didn't have any responsibility for anything he did. I suspect you won't allow yourself to see his actions for what they are, because it hurts too much and you know that if you saw him more clearly, you'd hate yourself for getting back into a relationship with him.

This relationship is a train wreck and you need to get out. And SERIOUSLY work on yourself. I know that's blunt but good God woman. If only you could see how awfully you are allowing yourself to be treated.

Chloe421 · 06/08/2017 09:32

@thestamp thank you for your honest comments. I absolutely do acknowledge his past behaviours for what they were (emotionally and financially abusive) and he knows it. However there were two people in that scenario me and him and I could have put a stop to it much sooner. I despised myself for getting back together with him initially, over time this lessened as he genuinely appeared to be working on himself, gave me no cause for concern and seemed to be trying to minimise the difficulty of my current situation... until recently when things have reverted to being about his needs and the very emotionally ignorant and selfish sides to his personality have resurfaced.

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category12 · 06/08/2017 09:53

No-one can say you haven't tried. But there is a time to stop.

Chloe421 · 06/08/2017 14:48

You are all correct in your thoughts. I don't think that he genuinely cares about the relationship beyond it meeting his 'needs' and if I continue to kid myself and don't get out we are likely to go full circle. I don't think we have the capacity to ever be in the sort of partnership... or be the partner that I would want. Thank you for the perspective.

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yetmorecrap · 06/08/2017 17:46

I lived with someone like this for 4 years OP. His life choices buggered up my life for a while , paid for by me and ultimately it was all about 'him' . I did get out and basically did a runner!! He was a selfish charmer

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