Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Objective thoughts desperately needed

57 replies

Chloe421 · 05/08/2017 08:42

Hi there,
I don't usually post online but currently feel at my wits end and would really appreciate some objective thoughts on my situation. Apologies for the long text to follow.
I have been with my SO for 7 years. A few years into the relationship things became very tough. My SO was going through a difficult time emotionally and projected this onto the relationship. This stemmed from feelings he had not dealt with from the past and a lack of self insight. He became emotionally and financially abusive and it culminated in me losing my life savings, my career and my self worth. I was willingly supporting him financially at this time but it went above and beyond... I became so disillusioned that I stupidly funded large material objects and I much later found out a substance habit before things came to a head when I finally said no and got thrown out of the property in which we lived. For a time I had nothing and was homeless. I had always been very responsible and emotionally aware in my approach to life, finances and relationships so the events and their ramifications had a big impact on how I felt about myself. I blamed myself and harboured a lot of guilt. This said for the past 4 years I have worked to rebuild my life, started a business which is doing ok and tried to like myself again etc. Whilst we had a period of one years separation. (I had no intention of us getting back together) we ended up re establishing the relationship around 3 years ago. My SO pushed for this and has worked hard on understanding himself and his behaviours since the tough time. Since getting back together he has been very supportive and the relationship has been quite healthy in regards to communication and day to day events. I found it very difficult to trust him initially however this has been getting better. I still have a lot to deal with financially from the past events and whilst my work is now going well I do not have a lot of disposable income. I work very hard and hours can be long as do many people even when in a relationship and this sometimes causes disagreements. We are living in a house he owns because I am unable to get a mortgage due to my now terrible credit score. This has been very embarrassing but it is what it is. Recently my SO has voiced that he doesn't feel like we are a proper partnership and thinks I should be putting more money into the relationship to enable us to do more things together. I have made sure that I have contributed half to things we have done in the past few years and pay a monthly contribution to the bills, house etc. Knowing he is thinking this way has really troubled me, given past events and I feel as though he has no comprehension of how hard things have been and why it is that my life revolves around work and debt. Even though we have been through this many times. I can see from his point of view that he wants us to begin really moving forward but I am still living with consequences of past events which realistically is going to be the case for years to come. He is currently very focussed on his needs and these being met and feels that he has been more than understanding for the past three years and now really wants things to change. He now has a small business that is doing well (this is something we had worked on together before the period of separation) and is fortunate not to have to worry about money. He has amassed savings with which he can feel secure. I find myself questioning myself. Should I be doing more or are his thought processes shallow and a cause for alarm bells?

OP posts:
Chloe421 · 06/08/2017 18:13

@yetmorecrap. I'm glad you were able to see it for what it was and hope you're now happy and in a better situation. Your comment made me laugh as my other half is certainly not a charmer.

OP posts:
Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 08:52

Sorry to harp on. Recently I was put on his car insurance as I haven't been able to have a car since the fallout. It took alot for me to allow him to do this. It happened and we agreed that I would pay the surpluss for me to be added on a monthly basis. I drove the car a few times and all was ok. Then one day last week he calls me and says he has just bought a new car. Turns out its a nicer, more expensive model. I was thrown by this as its not something I would have done especially given that we had agreed on the joint use and insurance. But tried to just let it slide. It then transpired that he was concerned about me driving it... but he added me to the insurance at an increased cost (which I covered) 'anyway'. Then last week we have an argument (which started due to lack of communication over the car and led to my op). During this I told him I did not want to drive his car after the things he had said to me (ie he implied that I wasn't putting enough cash into the relationship etc) and to therefore remove me from his insurance. Well he has immediately gone and done just that... but not communicated it to me and also lost me the money I had paid in the process. They would not give him a refund so he thought instead of telling me this he would just go ahead and cancel, leaving me with no use of the car and no cash with which to fund bus/ taxi transport. I only found out about this this morning and have now had to cancel todays meetings because of it. I hate myself for feeling disappointed as at this point should not expect anything else of him.

OP posts:
Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 08:58

He also told me a story about what had happened at the garage where he purchased the car. He was pleased that they had given him a free umbrella 'the best and most expensive one in their showroom' and took great delight in telling me that he only got it because he had caused a stir and said 'I want that one'. This made my blood boil and I think sums up nicely the mindset I am dealing with.

OP posts:
Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 08:59

Apologies for all the posts but it is helping to write things down

OP posts:
Fortmentera · 07/08/2017 09:02

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

moreshitandnofuckingredemption · 07/08/2017 09:04

He sounds awful. You deserve better Flowers

Dodie66 · 07/08/2017 09:15

Do you love him? You don't mention how you feel about him

Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 09:33

Thanks for your kind comments. @dodie66 I'm not sure feelings even matter anymore. Contrary to the saying, love does not conquer all.

OP posts:
category12 · 07/08/2017 10:08

He hasn't changed a bit. I cannot understand how he can justify to himself getting a new car, while you're so skint you can't find money for the bus. He doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself.

Dodie66 · 07/08/2017 11:00

But if you don't love him why stay with him?

Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 13:00

@Dodie66. I didn't say I don't love him. Of course I do. Although most of the time I dislike myself for it and do not like his behaviour or thought processes. 'Loving' someone is not enough when being with this person leads you to feel un heard, undermined and to stop recognising yourself.

OP posts:
Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 13:16

@category12 thanks again for your reply. The only reason I was struggling for cash for transport was because this had been budgeted for the car insurance and petrol. It wasn't the fact he bought a new car that bothered me... he earned the money through work so can do what he wants with it. We are just very different and the lack of communication about it when it had a direct impact on both of us, makes me uneasy. I'm afraid that you are right. I really thought he was growing... that we were growing. What a prize idiot I have been.

OP posts:
Dodie66 · 07/08/2017 13:19

Sorry I didn't mean to upset you. I understand how hard this is for you.
Like you said loving someone is not enough. I hope you can get some resolution. Hugs X

Mothersdaughter321 · 07/08/2017 13:28

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 13:36

Dodie66 sorry if it came across that you had upset me. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and it was a valid question :)

Mothersdaughter thank you. I wouldn't say this constitutes abuse but I have realised it has the potential to escalate and that his emotional immaturity/ selfishness/ lack of self insight are very unlikely to ever change. It is a shame as there is a kind hearted and decent human being underneath.

OP posts:
deadringer · 07/08/2017 13:38

OK i am not the brightest but let me see if i have this right. You lost your home and got into massive debt because of the behaviour of your 'so'. You have managed to get a job and are paying off these debts. Your so now has a house and a business, and savings, while you basically have nothing. He wants you to be more spendy and is banging on about his needs. Get the fuck out while you still have your sanity, he has taken pretty much everything else from you.

fabulousathome · 07/08/2017 13:46

Deadringer is correct. He's not the one for you.

Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 13:46

@deadringer I have pretty much lost the sanity to this situation too

OP posts:
Fishface77 · 07/08/2017 13:54

I'd bleed the fucker dry.
Absolute cunt.

Fishface77 · 07/08/2017 13:55

And you helped set the business up?
I'd fuck him over there too.

Fairenuff · 07/08/2017 13:58

Neither of you are happy in this relationship. End it and move on.

Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 14:13

Thanks. I can see that you are all correct. I just wanted things to work out differently. Interestingly when asked he says I do make him happy he just wants things to be even better... perfect for us and for us to have a 'great, easy life'. Previous times I have ended things between us it has become very messy. He immediately tells me to get out of his house, becomes emotionally volatile and subsequently (when I have left) calls/ sends messages upset etc. He has previously told me he is going to end his life, does not want to live without me in his life etc. This went on for many weeks, stopping only when I had to go back for the rest of my belongings and talked to him.

OP posts:
Fairenuff · 07/08/2017 14:43

That's what manipulators do to get their needs met. They manipulate. Move out, block his number, go no contact and then he can't manipulate you any more.

category12 · 07/08/2017 17:22

All that is classic emotional abuser tactics.

And you should be upset about the car. For goodness sake, op, you have to budget for travel while he's that tightfisted he expects you to pay the difference to his car insurance. Despite being the cause of your crap credit rating and debt. There is no partnership, there's no looking out for each other (apart from on your side).

You should be angry. You should be incandescent. (Don't worry, I will be on your behalf Wink).

Please get yourself sorted with somewhere to move into on the quiet, whether it's a room in a shared place, a rental or moving home to mother. Get it all arranged, get your stuff packed and ready, and then just go. Then block and cut contact with him. Grieve a bit and move on with a fantastic life free of him.

Chloe421 · 07/08/2017 19:51

Category12 it is text book. I arrived home to him being nice. No apology obviously as he won't have even considered that he has done anything that I could be disappointed over... although his words before walking out the door this morning were amongst other things I found unfathomable Don't blame it on me so I'm the bad guy again. I'm not even disappointed anymore I just feel nothing

OP posts:
Swipe left for the next trending thread