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Online dating is it a road to nowhere?

33 replies

toolonginthetooth · 02/08/2017 17:53

Increasingly finding it hard to meet someone in real life as I'm so busy. I'm exploring online dating as an opportunity but I'm finding my standards quite high and being bitterly disappointed. Ima curvy girl and some weeks I'm a 14 others I'm a 12. Seems to be a problem for a lot of men. I go by an initial attraction but I don't discount anyone. If I feel the pull, I feel the pull and talk to them. If I don't I don't
Doesn't matter their appearance as much to me. Seems to me men only attracted to smaller women
Recently someone messaged me saying all my exes are 10-12 so this will be a new experience for him and he has reservations but would still meet me as he likes me Hmm I was like erm well what a shame for you that you're so judgmental that women have to look a certain way and let's leave it at that. He said suppose you make a good point can we be friends? I'm like no we can't be friends. Up until the day before he was well into me and we were about to have our first date. Something happened overnight but I don't know what
What's everyone else's take and experiences

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newmumFeb17 · 02/08/2017 18:08

It's a numbers game. Met my DP online three years ago, before that I must have been on 30-40 different dates over 1.5 years. I'm a size 14-16 and I was just always really upfront about it (full length pic etc).
Just treat each date as a potential friend, it takes the pressure away. Don't spend loads of time messaging, a day or two, then arrange to meet if you have enough in common (in a safe place of course).
It's not easy, but try and keep it fun and it'll be worth it!

toolonginthetooth · 02/08/2017 18:45

I don't have many dates as I'm quite picky. Got to feel the pull etc but you're so right in what you're saying. Just shallow men put me right off the site altogether urgh Confused

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GemmaB78 · 02/08/2017 18:46

So you're picky but if men are, they're shallow?

bobbinogs · 02/08/2017 18:53

I'd say not a road to nowhere. Me and my friend signed up years ago in a bit of despair and went on lots of dates, lots of which went nowhere and fended off a fair few weirdos but are both now married with kids to online dates...... keep an open mind and go with your gut, it opens up the field... good luck

WinchestersInATardis · 02/08/2017 18:54

I agree about it being a numbers game. There are a lot of odd people online. I think as long as you don't expect to find 'the one' straight off and have the right attitude, it can work.
See each date as possibly finding love, maybe just making a friend or possibly just ending up with a funny story to laugh about later.
And there's nothing wrong with being picky. If you know what you like and what your absolute 'nos' are, that's to your advantage. Also have a good idea about what you're looking for - relationship, sex, just dating etc - and be up front about it.
I wouldnt worry about size. I'm well over a 14 and haven't had a problem. As long as you don't pretend to be anyone you're not, you should be fine.

SnowLeopard6 · 02/08/2017 19:07

As a man, just so you know, we're not all like that.
There are however shallow people out there. Male and female.

I personally think attraction comes mostly from personality.

Everyone has a body type that they prefer, but without a personality that attracts you, I couldn't even begin to imagine any sort of relationship.

Sounds like the guys you have been talking to are brain dead. Swipe right (or however you do it), and move on.

Girty999 · 02/08/2017 19:29

I talked to loads of men who didn't want a size 10/12 I was a size 22 when I met my partner and I wasn't short of others on my waiting list, keep looking x

AWendyAteMyFitbit · 02/08/2017 19:41

Pot. Kettle. Black. Much?

toolonginthetooth · 02/08/2017 21:47

Please I didn't come here to be bashed. I am picky because I have to A feel a pull towards them and that only comes about by good conversation. And B only by good conversation can I know if I'd like to meet them. Looks and sizes don't matter to me at all.
Thanks to the others for the positive comments though. I'm find it a total minefield and I think I'm a bit naive

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ComtesseDeSpair · 02/08/2017 22:17

Make sure you have a range of photos, including full length ones, and not only those you've altered on Snaphat or whatever. Don't mention your weight in either a good or bad way. It's just you. If a man mentions your body in a negative way just stop contact, it's rude, and you don't need to get into a discussion about it.

I find OLD mostly enjoyable and I've never had a bad experience. I presume that men who like curves or big boobs or ample bottoms just don't bother messaging me, because I have none of the above. I've never had a man mention to me that I don't have what he does want. I treat every date like an opportunity to have a drink with somebody I'd otherwise never meet and sometimes that's what it is and sometimes there's some chemistry and it goes further. I think you need to be relaxed and not fixate on people or build every first date up to being the first day if the rest of your life or whatever.

Shoxfordian · 02/08/2017 22:19

I met my lovely partner online and we are shortly moving in together so there are definitely nice men out there!

I agree with you about good conversation and you should carry on chatting to different men. Definitely chat to more than one at a time and arrange dates soon if possible so you can see how you get on. Don't waste time being a penpal.

Make sure your pictures are representative of how you actually look and not just face shots so men can see how you are from the picture. If it helps; you're not big. I'm much bigger than you and I had various online messages when I was dating. Any man who says you're too big is an idiot.

Hope some of that helps

toolonginthetooth · 02/08/2017 22:39

I just thought I'd got a good measure of a person and I missed something. I don't judge and if people have a type they have a type and that's ok. I haven't taken it personally in a sense I just find it frustrating more than anything. Why people say they aren't judgmental when they really are baffles me. Sizes aren't deal breakers for me, morals and manners are though. Thanks for your support everyone I truly appreciate it. Flowers

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LesisMiserable · 03/08/2017 01:06

I have been married nearly one week to my lovely DH who I met nearly three years ago on Tinder. He was the first and consequently only person I spoke to on there. I hit lucky. It can happen 😊

toolonginthetooth · 03/08/2017 01:39

Thanks everyone forgot to mention we have great banter and was sending something was up so this all snowballed from me saying you sure you fancy me as you've not much to say today. His words were I don't know if I fancy you yet. I'm like whaaaa??? Spent all that time talking and him telling me he'd told all his friends about me and how excited he was to meet me.
I just don't get what happened

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stumblymonkeyagain · 03/08/2017 02:15

I also think it's a numbers game.

I went on 47 first dates over five years before I met DP (soon to be DH). He's a personal trainer with 10% body fat.

When we met 2.5 years ago I was 16 stone and a size 16/18. He proposed to me last year I was 18 stone and a size 18/20.

stumblymonkeyagain · 03/08/2017 02:18

This was someone you hadn't met yet?

Of course they're not sure if they fancy you? How could they be when you haven't met?

TBH....asking those kind of questions means you come across as a little insecure and possibly needy, are you?

stumblymonkeyagain · 03/08/2017 02:21

That being said...his line about his exes all being size 10-12 was basically a big red flag that said 'DICKHEAD' on it.

So you might want to tighten up your red flag radar? No need to waste time on men that are losers, there are plenty who aren't.

What kind of man brings up the size of his ex girlfriends as a negative comparison when he's supposed to presumably be impressing you?

Thoughtful, kind, genuine and decent men don't do that kind of shit.

MistressDeeCee · 03/08/2017 03:24

There's someone for everyone. there'll be nice ones online amongst the dross. However you need a very thick skin for online dating. & the will to continue with it until you meet Mr Right.

The "my exes are all size 10-12" shallow idiot... He didn't manage to hold onto his perfect size women, obviously so I bet he's no catch.

Unless you look around you and all women your size don't have a man - which isn't the case is it - then it makes no sense even taking notice of what he said

Increasingly finding it hard to meet someone in real life as I'm so busy

If you're so busy now (and "increasingly" sounds as if you're going to be even busier) how will you actually find time to date and also to build and maintain a relationship? Seems a bit of a non-starter tbh, being time-poor isn't attractive.

But anyway its a numbers game as pp's have said, if you're prepared to actually put in the time to chat + go out on dates then you will meet someone. You will have to un-busy yourself a bit for that tho or there's no point

JWrecks · 03/08/2017 07:20

I thought online dating was brilliant. I met my wonderful DH (of almost 10 years now) on a dating site, and I rather enjoyed the process as well. Granted, I haven't been on one since, and things may have changed quite a bit (I'm not down with the whole swipe left/right bit so popular with the kids these days), so YMMV of course, but I would still recommend giving it a try!

True, it's very hit or miss at times. I sent loads of messages/requests/whatever to people and never heard back, and I got loads of messages from people I would rather just NOT contacted me, but it's still so much easier than in person that it was 100% worth it (and even the weirdos were entertaining at times). But it's so stressful trying to guess if the man you're looking at across the room could be single, could be looking, could be interested, could be decent and not a total arse, could have the same life goals as you... and that's all mostly out the door online.

You can get to know a fair bit about a person, at least the things they think are most important, right away from just their profile, without ever needing to speak to them, without them ever knowing you had a peek. You can weed through everything anonymously without anybody ever even knowing you looked. You can just ignore anybody who doesn't offer enough information or doesn't suit you, without wasting weeks or months figuring them out in person.

People on dating sites tend to be up front about whether they are only looking to meet new people, just looking to shag, or are looking for a serious relationship and ready to settle down. They tend to be up front about if they have kids or pets, mind/don't mind if you have kids or pets, what they want in a partner, what they want for the future, and things like that. And there are different sites (or at the very least options/sections/searches) tailored to different relationship goals - there are sites for random shagging and there are sites for people looking for love and marriage, and everything in between. There are even very specific sites for different religions, for people with STDs, for fetishes general or specific, for people with disabilities, for people with very particular types or interests; there is something for absolutely everyone!

OF COURSE people can be deceptive online - using older photos or lying about their lives - but if you find that's happened or even simply suspect, you can just walk away having lost very little if anything. And I think people learn fairly quickly how to spot the liars, the photoshops, the older/inaccurate photos, and things like that.

And this was very important to me: you can get to know a person online through skype, email, facebook, whatever, long before meeting them in person. You only have to give what you're willing to give, so if you want to keep your contact exclusive to the site only, or if you want to exchange email, or if you trust them enough to call and text, that's entirely up to you and the feeling you get from the other person. That was very liberating to me, and I found I was quite comfortable knowing my boundaries couldn't be crossed without my permission - nobody could turn up on my doorstep or ring/text at all hours, and I could deactivate or change my account to cut off contact with anyone at any time - and I was therefore able to be more honest.

In fact, my DH and I were "basically dating" (and even already in love) for a couple of MONTHS before we ever even met in person, so by then I felt I knew him and was sure I was safe with him and all that. We chatted just on the site's chat program at first, and worked up from there, then exchanged facebook profiles (and got a feel for each other's friends and family that way), then emails and IMs, then texts, etc., to the point that we were in almost-constant daily contact before we ever went on a real date. (And haha, I stayed over at his that very night! Blush)

Another thing I found a HUGE bonus was that the pang of rejection is almost completely negated online! There are infinite perfectly valid reasons somebody may not return your contact - reasons that are definitely not personal rejection! If somebody does not return your contact, they very well may have found a partner already and forgotten to take down their profile, or maybe they haven't checked or have forgotten about the account, maybe they haven't seen the message, maybe they're out of the country, maybe they've had too many messages and can't keep up, maybe life has gotten in the way and dating has been put to one side, or any number of perfectly reasonable scenarios that in no way mean that they don't like you. I really like that myself as, on top of my low self esteem, I am horribly, embarrassingly socially awkward in 1 on 1 situations with new people, so I never had to beat myself up for acting stupid trying to chat somebody up and scaring them off. Not receiving a return message is SOOO much easier than being told "no thanks" (or worse) to your face!!

And I think we women have a massive advantage in online dating. It seems* there are far more men on dating sites than women - *SEEMS! I have done no real research!! - and men seem to be quite keen. IME, and from everything I've heard from people of both genders using sites today, women are still more likely to be contacted than men, so we have the option of taking the shotgun approach and sifting through the results at our leisure. (Though it must be awful to be a man on a dating site, send out dozens of messages, and never hear back at all. Poor sods.) I think a woman's chances of succeeding at online dating are better than those of the average man.

I do feel I should add that my DH is an absolute GEM. He is most certainly NOT the bottom of the barrel, some desperate, weird creep who couldn't get a date in real life. He is an absolute catch, and everyone who has ever met him agrees - even my parents love him just as much as they love me, and they are terribly hard to please when it comes to partners! He's good looking, startlingly intelligent, kind, funny, happy, easy to talk to, and generally a great person. So PLEASE don't worry that only desperate people look online because that's bollocks. Everyone does it now, because, just like online shopping, it's so much easier, quicker, and more convenient than the traditional methods! So we've got a far less interesting "how we met" story for the grandchildren, but we found each other and have a happy life, so who cares?

(Sorry! This "quick reply" turned into a bloody novel! I hope it's at least helpful to you!)

toolonginthetooth · 03/08/2017 10:17

Thanks so much for all the replies and positive comments. There were kinda red flags to begin anyway so I'd massively dodged a bullet either way. He's cut short these phone calls to answer messages from his female best friend who he'd also apparently got to check me out! And even when we were talking the conversation would turn to her. They go out together and she stays over at his place occasionally. Think I'll keep ploughing away it's so frustrating though

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fantasmasgoria1 · 03/08/2017 14:59

For me I met dp online we are living together and engaged within a year and he is amazing!

Babyg1995 · 03/08/2017 15:26

I've never known anyone this has happened to alot of my friends are a 14/16 and have never had any issues from men online a 14,isn't even big anyway .

GreenerGrass1 · 03/08/2017 16:50

I signed up to a OLD app 3 months ago basically out of interest. I was very upfront and said that I was a curvy girl (size 18) so if you like slim girls then don't bother messaging.

I was inundated. I thought that men generally preferred curvy these days?

toolonginthetooth · 03/08/2017 21:02

Yeah it never happened to me before either. I suppose like some have said it's pot luck and a numbers game. You do need balls of steel to be on there I'll admit.

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CheekyFucker · 03/08/2017 21:13

Met DH online. 12 years married now, and 3 kids. Had to kiss a lot of frogs. Some were utter wankers.