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I don't know what to do

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lollipop7 · 25/07/2017 23:34

I gave up a career and a good life miles away when I feel pregnant with a man I thought I was in love with.
He asked me to marry him, told me he would always ta,e care upon us, encouraged me to take redundancy and plough it into our life together.
I'm now pregnant with our third child and si trapped and unhappy.

I have no job, no money and apart from my mum nowhere to go.
He has decided I'm good enough to have children with but not in his exact words "good enough to marry"
My credit rating has been ruined by a case of mistaken identity delisted notes of satisfaction. He's had all my money as I believed him all these years.
Last year when out second child was six months old I left before we moved house. I discovered a series of message to his drinking friends and parents that I had PND and was mentally ill. None of which is true.
He begged Me for a final chance, promised me he'd get therapy and set up a Trust Deed to acknowledge my contribution,
A year on and nothing. He is worse than ever and thanks to being pressured for sex one night I am six months pregnant.
He was out mountain biking with a friend tonight and our son managed to open two safety gates and fall halfway down the stairs. When he Came back home he was sulking and said he was obviously fine. Then two hours later he accused me of actually throwing himself down the stairs to get him home early because I am unwell and jealous of him having a life.
There are so many things I could write here but I can't face committing them all to paper, suffice to say they revolve around emotional abuse such as disdain, lies, provocation, undermining and general nastiness. He is a control freak, he cuts of my housekeeping to pay for holidays he wants. He says there is no money for luxuries but buys himself cds and booze and clothes all the time. His family are blind to his faults and I frequently come across nasty little message so where I am described as grumpy and arrogant. He is disningeous and provocative in front of my friends and family. In short he is a total bastard.
It has got so bad now that I am actually prepared to leave with nothing apart from my children in my car. The only asset I have left. He has said he holds all the cards and that he now wants to contact my midwife to tell, her I am unfit. This is because I slapped his face tonight when he accused me of injuring our son.

I just need to get something down as it is let and I don't want him to hear me on the phone to friends or my mother or sister.

I have thought about women's aid but I don't know.
I have left four times and always have to come back for immunisations, antenatal appointments, school terms etc. I feel as though all the pressure is on me. I am brimming out resentment at the uphheaval and turmoil in mine and especially my children's lives and on top of it have to get ready to give birth in three months.

He hasn't been interviewed under caution for assaulting me one night, but acts as though I think never happened and told the police commiserated with him and laughed about my desperate behaviour.
I feel as though he is trying to drive me to suicide or madness.

Just some words of advice or reassurance or comfort would be appreciated.

I feel incredibly stupid, vulnerable and lost right now.

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Ellendegeneres · 25/10/2017 19:40

I read all this last night and I want to tell you, you're inspirational.
I hope today has been gentler for you Flowers

lollipop7 · 25/10/2017 22:06

Well tonight I received an email of breathtakingly unnerving proportions.

He wrote and told me he was coming up on Sunday (still haven’t seen the court order which I am of course challenging) and there was nothing I could do about it so do not be causing a scene or aggravating anyone please.
He told me his mother was seriously possibly terminally ill and this might be the last chance she gets to see her grandchildren

I was told that I had best comply with giving him the car seats and a bag full of nappies, food, clothes etc for the kids. It would be unkind to force him to pay for anything else when seeing his kids already costs him so much and besides he pays for it all via Child Maintenance anyway. If I don’t give him the car seats he’ll just buy some from eBay.

A cursory postscript included an enquiry about my health and the baby.

He also Ccd my mother.

Have forwarded to the police and my solicitors.
If this isn’t proof that the man is crazy and a danger to my children I don’t know what will.

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RandomMess · 25/10/2017 22:14

Narcissistic through and through...

Flowers KOKO

If he turns up call the police.

Idontmeanto · 25/10/2017 22:46

Sounds like he really, truely doesn’t know that his behaviour is at all wrong. Hard work, but in some ways it’ll be easier to illustrate how badly he treats you and the kids.
Nothing is going to change between now and 9am, though. Sleep well and tomorrow’s another day xx

lollipop7 · 25/10/2017 23:04

I actually find it some sort of affirmation, I’m about to turn in now and quite relaxed.
He’s starting to do some of my work for me really, in terms of proving he’s off his rocker.

Tomorrow is another day but I am calm and resolute, not the rabbit in the headlights he wants me to be.

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JWrecks · 25/10/2017 23:46

Bloody hell lolli, that solicitor of yours... Angry And they just don't even make words big enough to describe what a cunting nutter your ex is. :(

Thinking of you, as always. You are the single toughest mama bear I've ever so much as heard of! If anybody can get through this and come out on top, it's you. I am in such awe of you. I know I keep saying it, but bloody hell you're some kind of warrior!

Where is that mama bear emote?? We really do need one, and when we get it they ought to make it [lollipop7], honestly!

Praying for your ultimate victory, as always, love. Flowers

RandomMess · 25/10/2017 23:51

It’s like I said before he’s making his own noose, he believes he is above the law = how to piss a judge Off...

Clutterbugsmum · 26/10/2017 06:56

He told me his mother was seriously possibly terminally ill, is that the same as he is seriously possibly a nice person.

Make sure the SS worker you are dealing with has a copy as well.

franklyidontgiveadamscarlet · 26/10/2017 07:10

Hi Lollipop
I want to say to you even if you cant see it today, you are doing well.
You have taken many steps to protect your children.
You have gone above and beyond to save them from more pain.

But please look after you as the mother of your precious children take care and look after your emotional and physical self.

I know its a long road your taking here but it will all turn out in the end.

I know all of us reading your painful thread and cheering you on from the sidelines.

OnTheRise · 26/10/2017 07:23

He is seriously troubled.

As well as forwarding that email to everyone, speak to your local police and ask if they can make your house a priority on Sunday. So that if you do have to call them out (and if he appears, that's exactly what you should do) they turn up ASAP.

You are doing so well. I hope this is all over soon.

Racmactac · 26/10/2017 07:27

His mother is terminally ill. The same mother that is supervising his contact?

ddrmum · 26/10/2017 07:40

Lollipop you're doing fantastically well. This whole scenario is a total nightmare & I understand your fears as I share them. My children are older than yours and the impact it has had on them is heartbreaking. Hold your little ones tight, keep eating, drinking and fighting. Don't give an inch to that man - it's never about the kids & it'll always be about you. I would say make sure you get a penal notice on every contact order. Men like this will do everything to show you they are above the law and can do what they like. My ex has breached the order been in court and breaches it constantly with the help & support if his toxic parents. Just try to make sure that all orders cover all bases. No contact or in direct would be good. I really wish you strength as you continue your journey. It's a long hard road ahead but you are strong and are fighting for the safety if your beautiful babies - just make sure you look after yourself as well. As I've often read on mn, you can't pour from an empty cup.

ddrmum · 26/10/2017 07:40

Lollipop you're doing fantastically well. This whole scenario is a total nightmare & I understand your fears as I share them. My children are older than yours and the impact it has had on them is heartbreaking. Hold your little ones tight, keep eating, drinking and fighting. Don't give an inch to that man - it's never about the kids & it'll always be about you. I would say make sure you get a penal notice on every contact order. Men like this will do everything to show you they are above the law and can do what they like. My ex has breached the order been in court and breaches it constantly with the help & support if his toxic parents. Just try to make sure that all orders cover all bases. No contact or in direct would be good. I really wish you strength as you continue your journey. It's a long hard road ahead but you are strong and are fighting for the safety if your beautiful babies - just make sure you look after yourself as well. As I've often read on mn, you can't pour from an empty cup.

GrabbyMcGrabby · 26/10/2017 08:07

Been reading your thread and sending Flowers for you, BearBearBear for your littles ones and Cake for your mum. Full of admiration for you. I don't have any advice, but wanted to give you some support. Flowers

Joysmum · 26/10/2017 08:16

One positive comes from this, all are taking your situation more seriously as he continues to be unhinged. It will get to the stage where you’ll get powers of arrest attached to court orders and either no contact or only sporadically in a contact centre at best.

It’s ridiculous that it’s taking so long to get to that stage.

lollipop7 · 26/10/2017 08:31

Morning all, well rise and shine for me again!

@OnTheRise I have contacted the police with this enquiry this morning. Hopefully they can reassure me that if he turns up he’ll be dealt with. Part of me thinks we should just go out for the day and, the other part wants him to descend behaving like a loon so he is arrested. The Court Order hasn’t even been agreed yet but he has decided which weekend day which week as well as totally ignoring the orders not to contact me. I have told everyone involved all along that he is mentally very unstable; perhaps they will now be starting to listen

@Racmactac Yep it’s the very same mother. He was so busy trying to pluck at my heart strings he didn’t realise he’d given me something that will surely concern the court. She must have at least had some form of surgery or lumpectomy and will be on medication so how could she change a boisterous toddlers nappy, run around after them or get through a nine hour car journey and six hours out and about. I actually think he believes we will let them in make a brew and behave as if nothing had happened. It’s utterly ludicrous.

@RandomMess yes you are right I hope. Surely the third occasion of breaching a Court Order should be enough to make the Judge see how contemptuous and dismissive he is.

@Clutterbugsmum great comment 😉 and yes those are his words. Dreadful. It’s funny really because he’s been living it up for weeks - and taking great delight in telling me so on any media platform he can - but has also been ravaged with worry and sadness. Hmmmmm. How low to use this in such a way.

The irony is I have never stopped his parents seeing the, even though i know they loathe me. The truth is they haven’t bothered once with these “precious children” since we left and that’s four months ago now.

@JWrecks, @franklyidontgiveadamscarlet @ddrmum thanks so much for your lovely words of support, as always. Helps me pick myself when I’m a bit down with it all 💐

Hope I haven’t missed anyone. Will be back later with another update of my high octane struggles!

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lollipop7 · 26/10/2017 08:35

@GrabbyMcGrabby thank you, the virtual gifts are gratefully received 😊

@Joysmum to me the fact he Mother is ill means if contact must be supervised then a contact Centre it will have to be. I’m applying for a non molestation order now so this will clearly have an impact on hangovers if it goes ahead. Which if I have anything to do with it, it won’t

I cannot see how a Court thinks this lax arrangement is appropriate in the circumstances and I will not be letting him take the children like this. I think he is proving himself capable of desperate, unpredictable behaviour and so not to be trusted.

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MrsBertBibby · 26/10/2017 08:50

What he says about his mother certainly reinforces the need for someone to assess their suitability and report back to the court. And if it turns out to be lies, that is just as much of a concern, as he is clearly not being open with the court.

He needs professional note taking supervision, so his ability to act like a decent dad can be assessed.

Good luck with the non mol.

Is the pregnancy a bit less high-care now?

lollipop7 · 26/10/2017 09:06

@MrsBertBibby it’s just incredible arrogance from beginning to end. He knew his parents were on holiday and couldn’t supervise the other weekend and now this serious illness business just gets plucked out of the ether. He obviously thinks the rest of us don’t stop and think about what he’s writing in terms of how bonkers it is. The deceit and covering up one time after another is just incredible. If I was the Judge I’d be getting pig sick of this and feel it was about time now to shut up shop. Three court orders in a row disobeyed. What will it take? Him refusing to surrender the children?

This is exactly what I mean about how lax the whole notion of supervision is in this context, he’s treating it like a family get together.

His entire email last night read like a master class in control. The only decision he was willing to gift me throughout was the fact that we could “come to some sort of arrangement together” and impliedly jointly circumvent the Court Order for contact around his mother’s illness. Breathtaking.

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lollipop7 · 26/10/2017 09:11

@Joysmum hand overs not hangovers.

I don’t even know what one of those is anymore!

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debbs77 · 26/10/2017 09:16

Just read the first 10 pages and jumped to the end thinking things would be resolved due to the length of time and can't believe how awful he is still being!!!

You're amazing!!!!

flutterby12 · 26/10/2017 09:32

Morning @lollipop7 just caught up! This man doesn't even surprise me now with the tricks he tries! Can you call the police if they turn up Sunday? He's such a piece of work! I'm so angry for you!

Are you 38 weeks now? Is he still breech? Little wriggler 😊

AlissDemurrage · 26/10/2017 09:40

I'm de-lurking to say how amazing you are lollipop, you have shown such strength. I'm keeping everything crossed for you for a swift, positive resolution to this. Also congratulations on your baby Flowers

lollipop7 · 26/10/2017 09:44

@flutterby two midwives are still saying footling breech. Scan today to confirm! 😳

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RandomMess · 26/10/2017 10:00

Fingers crossed for the scan!!!