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I don't know what to do

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lollipop7 · 25/07/2017 23:34

I gave up a career and a good life miles away when I feel pregnant with a man I thought I was in love with.
He asked me to marry him, told me he would always ta,e care upon us, encouraged me to take redundancy and plough it into our life together.
I'm now pregnant with our third child and si trapped and unhappy.

I have no job, no money and apart from my mum nowhere to go.
He has decided I'm good enough to have children with but not in his exact words "good enough to marry"
My credit rating has been ruined by a case of mistaken identity delisted notes of satisfaction. He's had all my money as I believed him all these years.
Last year when out second child was six months old I left before we moved house. I discovered a series of message to his drinking friends and parents that I had PND and was mentally ill. None of which is true.
He begged Me for a final chance, promised me he'd get therapy and set up a Trust Deed to acknowledge my contribution,
A year on and nothing. He is worse than ever and thanks to being pressured for sex one night I am six months pregnant.
He was out mountain biking with a friend tonight and our son managed to open two safety gates and fall halfway down the stairs. When he Came back home he was sulking and said he was obviously fine. Then two hours later he accused me of actually throwing himself down the stairs to get him home early because I am unwell and jealous of him having a life.
There are so many things I could write here but I can't face committing them all to paper, suffice to say they revolve around emotional abuse such as disdain, lies, provocation, undermining and general nastiness. He is a control freak, he cuts of my housekeeping to pay for holidays he wants. He says there is no money for luxuries but buys himself cds and booze and clothes all the time. His family are blind to his faults and I frequently come across nasty little message so where I am described as grumpy and arrogant. He is disningeous and provocative in front of my friends and family. In short he is a total bastard.
It has got so bad now that I am actually prepared to leave with nothing apart from my children in my car. The only asset I have left. He has said he holds all the cards and that he now wants to contact my midwife to tell, her I am unfit. This is because I slapped his face tonight when he accused me of injuring our son.

I just need to get something down as it is let and I don't want him to hear me on the phone to friends or my mother or sister.

I have thought about women's aid but I don't know.
I have left four times and always have to come back for immunisations, antenatal appointments, school terms etc. I feel as though all the pressure is on me. I am brimming out resentment at the uphheaval and turmoil in mine and especially my children's lives and on top of it have to get ready to give birth in three months.

He hasn't been interviewed under caution for assaulting me one night, but acts as though I think never happened and told the police commiserated with him and laughed about my desperate behaviour.
I feel as though he is trying to drive me to suicide or madness.

Just some words of advice or reassurance or comfort would be appreciated.

I feel incredibly stupid, vulnerable and lost right now.

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Doubletrouble42 · 19/10/2017 08:20

Ah I missed some! I'll get my glasses on. Still, good luck and more good wishes x

hellsbellsmelons · 19/10/2017 08:39

Updates are looking promising.
Fingers crossed for you.
Do rest up today and tonight.
Sorry you are sick on top of everything else.
But... you are still totally awesome and a true inspiration to so many.
Keep going!

Alfiemoon1 · 19/10/2017 08:41

Sorry to hear u are unwell plenty of fluids you are doing amazingly well keep going

TheMShip · 19/10/2017 08:47

Lots of rest and fluids today, you'll make it through and be ok for court tomorrow. Good luck!

loobylou10 · 19/10/2017 08:57

Wow - just found this thread and binge read it! You are INCREDIBLE lollipop - I don’t know where or how you find the strength to keep going but please do. Flowers

scootinFun · 19/10/2017 09:36

Good luck for today!

BitOutOfPractice · 19/10/2017 09:54

I've just caught up with your rollercoaster ride lollipop and want to add my support and best wishes to you for tomorrow

JWrecks · 19/10/2017 10:46

Oh @Lolli GOOD LUCK! I hope you feel better and don't have to go through it miserably ill. :(

When I first read your last update about the police, I started off thinking "oh good, good, finally!" but then I realised... IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME. I am just so angry on your behalf at those bloody police. At least they are finally getting off their arses, but the fact they are only doing all of that NOW makes my blood boil!

The plain, clear injustice of all of this, when you have such solid and overwhelming evidence, is driving me mad!

It's been said a thousand times (which is still nowhere near enough!) and I'll say it again: You are amazing. They don't make words big enough to describe how truly awe-inspiring you are. You're probably the most amazing, bad ass woman on the planet. I don't know how you've gotten through this hell, love, but it must be some kind of super power.

I so wish I could offer more than mere words on the internet. I really wish I had some thorough legal knowledge and connections right about now. :( As it is, though, I'm praying very very hard that you come out on top of this today. Do keep us updated if you can. We're all rooting for you today.

holdthewine · 19/10/2017 14:42

Lovely Lollipop. Your STBXH sounds like Robert Titchener from the Archers - even trying to choose his unborn baby’s name. Shocking to think yours is real. Keep in keeping on and I hope your stomach clears up fast. Not fun when pregnant. I had food poisoning at 36 weeks with one of mine and still remember it all these years later.

Thinking of you.

Gemini69 · 19/10/2017 15:41

sending flowers and hugs Lollipop Flowers

lollipop7 · 19/10/2017 18:45

Oops baby brain Court is tomorrow. So another few hours of hell to get through.

He's really upset me tonight, whilst speaking to the children which is shorthand for harassing me. Tonight he told the children he had stayed late to polish a piece of really important piece of work for tomorrow morning far away to perfection. Well I can only assume it's to do with the hearing tomorrow.

He looked at me on the web cam with total hatred. He didn't even ask about the baby.

I am utterly terrified about tomorrow and beside myself. I have an awful feeling he has got some hideous web of lies concocted and got people to lie for him. I feel so sick and worried. He just kept telling the children he would see them very soon and it was all just a matter of time. Have logged with the police . St this rate they'll assign me a collar number.

I don't know how I am going to get through tonight and tomorrow morning. It's like waiting to find out if you have cancer or something hideous. I've done all this work, have evidence and still feel as though the judge has it in for me.

Guess I just have to drill down deeper and find yet more resolve and purpose from somewhere.
All I know is i cannot have him in my life for much longer. It's really taking its toll.

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Youcanttaketheskyfromme · 19/10/2017 18:48

We are all behind you. You are incredible doing all this so heavily pregnant.

Flowers
lollipop7 · 19/10/2017 18:55

I am literally just dragging one foot in front of the other now.
I felt like I was dying this morning and my heart feels so heavy. What if he gets unsupervised contact tomorrow, what if the judge just swats. E away ,Ike a fly, what if he doesn't find favour with anything.

My statement is second pages long, it includes physical abuse of me and one of the children: financial, emotional, and sexual coercion plus all the dreadful emails, bank account proof, logs, recordings he's admitted to, hideous texts, concerns from the nurseries, proof I'm not mentally ill PLUS the updated amendments to Practice Direction 12 (j) yet still I am petrified.

I suppose it shows just how frightened I am of him, and always will be.

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lollipop7 · 19/10/2017 18:55

Seven not second pages

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Fluffymonkey · 19/10/2017 19:11

Hey lollipop. You can do this. Try and be calm and believe that it will be ok cxx

Frouby · 19/10/2017 19:11

Oh love, he really is a cunt. Have you asked the police about charging him with coercion is it? Am sure it's a relatively new thing, might be worth mentioning to your solicitor. In view of the police actually doing something now could you argue for a contact centre based on the risk of harm to you and your mother? I was also told years ago by cafcas that if the dcs weren't at risk of harm by the father the only other reason they would stop contact is that the fear of harm, whether real or not would be ao detrimental to the mothers health it would have a negative impact on the ability of the mother to care for the dcs.

Do you have to do the skype thing? I would find it so fucking intrusive.

I hope to god things go well for you tomorrow.

Doublemint · 19/10/2017 19:23

Just think how great you will be feeling this time tomorrow- I have every faith the judge will see the true picture here.

Barmaid101 · 19/10/2017 19:28

Thinking of you for tomorrow and hoping you get the right outcome! You are amazing!

lollipop7 · 19/10/2017 19:32

CAFCASS don't give a shit about me, they know how pregnant I am and how the thought of him taking my children and something awful happening is making me ill. The officer told me she believed me, it the one that represented her in Court didn't seem to hold the same view. Still didn't stop them saying his fucking mother could take them off for SIX hours anywhere. How exactly is that supervised when I have written proof she hates me and would do anything her son asked her to which is what he has gleefully hinted.
I know all about the CAFCASS risk frameworks, all about the Law all about this children and main careers emotional health guff- and guff it is because where was it all applied in relation to me and my babies? It was suspended to placate an abusive bully who turns on the crocodile tears and fake charm. It's abhorrent.

Not even a Change In the Law from Munby has helped me in relation to risk and contact.
Nothing has materially changed since the first hearing so why did he get supervised contact. My risk hasn't gone down all that was dragging was the police. So on what basis was Contact increased????

My name is mud, and I have jumped through every hoop imaginable. On the other hand he hasn't even had Safeguarding checks completed, doesn't provide for their upkeep, lies on court papers, defames my character, has invaded my home and safe place again, breaks Court Orders left right and centre but gets away with it all. And has abused me and terrified me.

I only stayed and endured this for the years I did for my children. Now it could be that they are more at risk of harm because I removed them from a toxic, terrifying environment where we were controlled by a tyrant.

We are just being failed and I am so fucking angry. What happens if one of my children become another statistic, another failed child? I will not survive it.

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flutterby12 · 19/10/2017 19:50

Oh @lollipop7 it sounds horrendous. Did you record the Skype conversation?

Sending you lots of love and strength for tomorrow. You will get through it and you'll come
our stronger.

Surely with all the evidence the judge will rule in your favour. I'll be thinking of you

Frouby · 19/10/2017 20:02

Its fucking shite lovely. Sorry if I upset you again, you must be sick of reading 'advice' online and nothing working. I wish it was better for you Flowers

lollipop7 · 19/10/2017 20:15

Sorry @Frouby I didn't mean to sound ungrateful I really appreciate everyone's advice it's just that I keep thinking surely "a" can't happen and it does! You haven't upset me at all, you and everyone else on here is helping to keep me going 💐

Thanks @flutterby12 I just want it to be tomorrow night now. It's the not knowing and overthinking coalescing in some sort of perfect storm and I'm struggling.

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Doublemint · 19/10/2017 20:32

FlowersI'm so sorry this is happening to you, but your kids are damn lucky to have you as their mum. This too shall pass x

lollipop7 · 19/10/2017 20:40

The police just called. They are hiring a car and driving up to take my devices in ten days time.
They are liasing with my local force to organise video interviews for me and our son plus they want me to submit my victim personal statement next week.
They've put all this in an email for Court tomorrow.

Perhaps this might show the Judge they are taking things very seriously.

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Hairgician · 19/10/2017 20:40

Delurking to give virtual hug Lolli. He is some piece of work and I'm in disbelief at the lengths he is going to. I shall be thinking of you all tomorrow and I'm hoping and praying things go your way! There's no way they can dismiss all that evidence.
Hes unhinged for sure. I dread to think what he has been scheming up.

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