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I don't know what to do

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lollipop7 · 25/07/2017 23:34

I gave up a career and a good life miles away when I feel pregnant with a man I thought I was in love with.
He asked me to marry him, told me he would always ta,e care upon us, encouraged me to take redundancy and plough it into our life together.
I'm now pregnant with our third child and si trapped and unhappy.

I have no job, no money and apart from my mum nowhere to go.
He has decided I'm good enough to have children with but not in his exact words "good enough to marry"
My credit rating has been ruined by a case of mistaken identity delisted notes of satisfaction. He's had all my money as I believed him all these years.
Last year when out second child was six months old I left before we moved house. I discovered a series of message to his drinking friends and parents that I had PND and was mentally ill. None of which is true.
He begged Me for a final chance, promised me he'd get therapy and set up a Trust Deed to acknowledge my contribution,
A year on and nothing. He is worse than ever and thanks to being pressured for sex one night I am six months pregnant.
He was out mountain biking with a friend tonight and our son managed to open two safety gates and fall halfway down the stairs. When he Came back home he was sulking and said he was obviously fine. Then two hours later he accused me of actually throwing himself down the stairs to get him home early because I am unwell and jealous of him having a life.
There are so many things I could write here but I can't face committing them all to paper, suffice to say they revolve around emotional abuse such as disdain, lies, provocation, undermining and general nastiness. He is a control freak, he cuts of my housekeeping to pay for holidays he wants. He says there is no money for luxuries but buys himself cds and booze and clothes all the time. His family are blind to his faults and I frequently come across nasty little message so where I am described as grumpy and arrogant. He is disningeous and provocative in front of my friends and family. In short he is a total bastard.
It has got so bad now that I am actually prepared to leave with nothing apart from my children in my car. The only asset I have left. He has said he holds all the cards and that he now wants to contact my midwife to tell, her I am unfit. This is because I slapped his face tonight when he accused me of injuring our son.

I just need to get something down as it is let and I don't want him to hear me on the phone to friends or my mother or sister.

I have thought about women's aid but I don't know.
I have left four times and always have to come back for immunisations, antenatal appointments, school terms etc. I feel as though all the pressure is on me. I am brimming out resentment at the uphheaval and turmoil in mine and especially my children's lives and on top of it have to get ready to give birth in three months.

He hasn't been interviewed under caution for assaulting me one night, but acts as though I think never happened and told the police commiserated with him and laughed about my desperate behaviour.
I feel as though he is trying to drive me to suicide or madness.

Just some words of advice or reassurance or comfort would be appreciated.

I feel incredibly stupid, vulnerable and lost right now.

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SittingAround1 · 15/10/2017 13:35

I'd also like to send a message of support.

Don't give up, but take mini breaks whenever you can in order to reccuperate. A day off from thinking about your ex if possible would probably do you the world of good.

Perhaps think about not putting him on the new baby's birth certificate. I know that means giving up child support from him but if he's not going to pay it anyway and be difficult, it might be worth it.

I hope today is a better day.

kaiserschmarrn · 15/10/2017 14:22

Lollipop, I have been reading your thread since the beginning and I just want to add my voice to the messages of support. You have been superhuman in your efforts to protect your children. I was so worried about you yesterday and appalled at what you have had to endure from your husband and the way you have been failed by the solicitor and the police. I am awed to hear you ready to fight on today.

There are lots of wise and brave women on this thread who might be able to help you in real life; do consider taking up some of the offers they have made, even if it's only to have coffee and talk to someone.

Wishing you strength and peace.

Slingsanderrors · 15/10/2017 16:45

Lollipop happy to help and be an extra granny if you're in or near Lincolnshire. X

RandomMess · 15/10/2017 17:37

I'm in NW England x

Lorddenning1 · 15/10/2017 20:09

Just read your thread and omg what an amazing women you truly are, your strength is incredible, to be 35 weeks pregnant and have 2 young kids already is so tiring and to be fighting a battle against a prick of an ex, I take my hat off to you, I'm struggling with a clingy 9 month old with separation anxiety and at my wits end, if only I have an ounce of your strength :) sending you big hugs x

flutterby12 · 15/10/2017 20:12

Hi @lollipop7 I can't believe the system has let you down. The bastard will get what's coming for him. He'll slip up, hell so something and then people will realise. You are so strong, I know I say it every time but you really are. I think about you a lot and what you're going through. I am in Chester if you need a friend x

MGKROCKS · 15/10/2017 20:17

A twunt....when neither cunt nor twat is good enough.....pls find the strength to leave.xx.

NowApparently · 15/10/2017 20:25

I'm glad a night of decent sleep has done you the world of good, it sounds like it was desperately needed (follow pregnant lady in the third trimester - sweet jesus I can't wait to sleep again). We all lose our resolve from time to time, but it's fantastic to see you've come back today with your resolve renewed.

You are stronger than him, you will prevail. He's fighting a losing battle here and people like him have a tendency to end up old and alone, but that's his problem now.

As others have said, keep on keeping on - we're right behind you Flowers

wineandworkout · 15/10/2017 20:28

This is me 5 years ago! I posted on here about my situation and after some sympathetic messages people started to think I was a troll and I got banned.

You can do this. One step at a time. You have taken the most important step by seeing this man's true colours. Next steps are probably financial independence: you can clear up the mistaken identity thing, though it's a pain.My ex ruined my credit rating by runnng up debts in my name - I'm still sorting through it 5 years later. Go and stay with your mum while you get back on your feet!

I really recommend this book - www.goodreads.com/book/show/1505718.Narcissistic_Lovers

You are welcome to PM me if it would help to talk xx

NameWithChange · 15/10/2017 20:41

I hope the police have come up with something of use today OP.

Ahardmanisgoodtofind · 15/10/2017 21:03

I wish I had some advice for you lollipop7 but instead all I can say is I've been following your thread and I honestly think you're incredible. Totally incredible, I'm in N.wales, but even if I'm no where near you I hope you know from the response on this thread you have a virtual army behind you, every single one of us is rooting for you, and I'm sure everyone would agree, you're an inspiration.

iknowimcoming · 16/10/2017 11:54

How are you today Lollipop? Ŵere the police any use last night?

lollipop7 · 16/10/2017 21:25

The police were here for three hours last night taking all the statements. All been transferred to the other Constabulary.
I showed them the Skype footage and their faces froze. Based on what they saw that have said they want to discuss an appropriately trained Safeguarding officer interviewing my son in a suitable setting at mock up living rooms.

Had my social, services report which was great and very positive. Not a word of a lie my children's Worker told me her manager read the report and said my ex sounded like a vile man and just reading about him made her angry.

Seeing my solicitor tomorrow to get ready for the evidence re finding of fact to be filed. I have official emails from the police confirming he was interviewed under caution for assault earlier this year and that should have meant CAFCASS picked this up so I have a line of appeal or enquiry re the possibility of supervise or unsupervised contact orders. They also have written to me and will be circulating an mandate to interview him once they've collected my evidence. There is also an apology to say he should have been forma,lay interviewed under caution for harassment since the beginning of September and it is their fault this hasn't happened again CAFCASS can't ignore this in terms of safeguarding.

I am still totally terrified as the Judge seems to have it in for me despite the new PD 12 (j) ruling re allegations of domestic abuse and child contact. I am consumed with a bad feeling that things won't go my way. He's acting like he's not got a care in the world whilst I am under a fucking microscope.

To add insult to injury he sent me photographs of the day out he had with mum and the kids on Friday. There is a one of her with the children smiling at the camera. I have blown my top is going to massively discredit her statements I fear, she claimed it was sprung on her but ot me it ,oops like she posed for it. I am so angry with her right now.

So a very mixed bag of feelings.
I honestly think it is all going to end in tears. My tears.

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lollipop7 · 16/10/2017 21:26

Sorry for the typos I'm just knackered and fucked off as per usual. 😓

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lollipop7 · 16/10/2017 21:29

@MGKROCKS thanks for your comment but I left him in July so no need to worry about me finding strength to do that.
I'm neck deep,in wading through the seemingly misogynistic legal swamp right now thought and could do with some superhuman powers

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Oilyoilyoilgob · 16/10/2017 21:32

Loki you’re doing amazingly well....such a strong person.
Can’t add much but I wouldn’t worry about your mum in the pic, perhaps it was to make your little ones feel normal in case they turned to look at her, perhaps she felt pressured and did what is ‘expected’ when a snap is being taken
Hope you manage to get some rest tonight Flowers

Oilyoilyoilgob · 16/10/2017 21:33

lolli even daft autocorrect 🙄

lollipop7 · 16/10/2017 21:34

@flutterby12 , @Slingsanderrors , @RandomMess @Mustang27 @Gemini69 @Idontmeanto 💐 to you all for your lovely offers of support and tea making / granny / shoulder to cry on services.

I'm sorely tempted to do a tour of duty and come and thank you for all your kindness in person, but I can barely get behind the wheel thanks to this baby so I will raise a virtual glass to you all and say thank you from the very bottom of my heart.

And thanks also to all of you taken the time to express your advice, concern, interest and (can't get used to this bit) admiration for me. I feel pretty shit and like I'm not achieving anything but if all your lovely lot say I am I guess I might be!

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lollipop7 · 16/10/2017 21:36

@Oilyoilyoilgob I think you're right and I feel horrible about flipping my lid with her, but I know how this will be pounced on by his lawyers. She's made formal complaints about him and the photograph undermines them.

I know I went off the deep end but I was totally incensed. Feel terrible about it now 😓

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Oilyoilyoilgob · 16/10/2017 22:24

Ah bless you, she will completely understand-don’t worry!
I’d understand anyone kicking off and letting off steam going through what you are. Your mum knows it’s an outlet for you. I really wouldn’t worry too much about it undermining, actually could be used as a positive that you and your mum/family are doing everything in your power to maintain a sense of normalcy for your children-that’s how I thought if it straight away 😊 and our brains from being young are hardwired almost into smiling for a camera, I’m sure that will be fine.
You are a very very strong person. I hope in time to come this creeps up on you but by bit! I wish you and your family all the very best x

MGKROCKS · 16/10/2017 22:36

Yay well done you xx

flutterby12 · 16/10/2017 22:57

How you find the strength whilst heavily pregnant amazes me. You are such a trooper and your children are so, so lucky to have you as their mum.

Sounds like things may start to be taken seriously now. He must be getting nervous, I hope he's panicking because everyone is slowly seeing him
for what a cruel, twisted bastard he is.

Your mum must be in bits about the pic but I suppose it's hard to know how to react. She was probably putting a brave face one.

Lots of love to you all. Hope baby is still behaving in correct position x

NameWithChange · 16/10/2017 23:09

Lolli, keep going.

I've had similar situation with my Mum and was furious. Felt so betrayed and gutted my EX had pulled her into his games. My mum felt absolutely dreadful and primarily she was just putting on a brave face in hell, for the kids sake. But also she knew it may have negative implications on me and that made her feel terrible. He is the C**t here (I know you know that) Let it wash over you. He won't get between you and your mum. Laugh it off, if you can - best way to undermine him. His games are futile, his bollocks are almost in your hand.

I know the fear of the Court system; some of these judges seem to be on another planet. Don't let that phase you. Hang in there. The truth will out!

These CAFCASS/Police cock ups may actually work in your favour because the key people may be uber keen to help now to make up for previous.

Friskyandhustley · 16/10/2017 23:15

I have just read this from the beginning and felt compelled to post .There are lots of stories of strong women going through awful times on here, many of them are truly inspiring. But bloody hell, this is something else. Just reading about this war of attrition was heart wrenching, I cannot begin to imagine how exhausting it must be to live with the constant anxiety you have. Let alone while pregnant and caring for small dc. Your fierce love for your children and determination to do what's right for them is so clear. It's what picked you back up when you hit rock bottom and will continue to do so. You've clearly got a good brain on you, are confident in dealing with authority and are super resilient. But it's your lion-mummy instincts that will see you through!

Gemini69 · 17/10/2017 00:24

Ocht your very welcome.. I was just aware it was very late and you had gone into the negative thoughts zone.. thankfully you bounced back Lollipop... You are so focused .. it's amazing you're able to stay on point ..but you do.. credit to you my lovely Flowers