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I'm leaving him.

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BitOfANameChange · 24/06/2017 10:30

I've named changed for this; he knows I use MN, although he probably doesn't follow me online.

After 30 years, I've had enough. It's all low level controlling and abusive stuff, which he would certainly deny is abusive. He can be nice at times, especially in public.

But I get treated like a child, told to do this or that. Since the moment I got pregnant I found myself effectively doing all the chores. He'll find some way, all the time, of making an excuse whey he shouldn't be doing them. In particular, his excuse when I was part time for the sake of the children (despite my job at the time being the higher earning potential) was that I had "more time".

I've been reading this board for a long time, and had a slow realisation that a lot of the things described here apply to me in some way. I do come from a dysfunctional family, but they aren't nasty parents, just clueless from their dysfunctions. They love me and my DB dearly, and are loaning me the money to set up in a rental property with the DCs. It's probably no coincidence that DB has also recently come out of an abusive relationship.

'D'P and I never married. He'd divorced his wife when I met him, quite young, and I know now the flags I should have spotted then; badmouthing the ex (who I actually get on well with), the maninuplation by hinting at suicide a couple of times, the depression that somehow allows hime to be an arsehole, etc.

So as we aren't married, the house is in his name, but I ended up being pressured into paying off a chuck of the mortgage with my redundancy payment, "to reduce our costs until you get another job". But he never cut down his mortgage overpayments, cleared the morgage and is now building up his savings, while I have no savings having paid his morgage. I do work now, FT.

The DCs and I walk on eggshells wondering about what mood he'll be in on getting home. Never actually been physically abusive, though. But the incident that started me thinking about the relationship and it's effect on the DCs was late last year, when DC1 and I were in the kitchen with him, and he told her to stop "screaming". She wasn't but her voice can get high when she's excited. She spoke again in that high voice and he yelled at her. She scuttled to the other end of the kitchen before i could intervene and he grabbed her arm hard enough to leave a mark. She's scared of hime now, with good reason. Since then, there's been a little edge of aggression towards her which he doesn't show to our DS. She has bad anxiety and mild depression (been to a doctor) and DS is showing the signs of following suit.

I've always been a comfort eater, and looking back I can see living with him has always raised my stress levels. I'm obese, but instead of being supportive I get constant fat digs from him, including during sex, and he wonders why my libido is dropping. I'm making modifications to my diet and have recently increased my activity levels significantly. I feel better for that.

There are other factors as well, influencing my decision, but going into them could out me.

I realised how much of a crap person he is, and secretly started planning an exit. I've never rented before having straight from parents into his house. But I'm using some of the info gleaned from you lovely people and my application for a little house for me and DCs is progressing well.

I have a cousin with some housing experience, who has given me the name of a good local solitor, so I'm hoping I can get back the money I paid into the house (I do have paper trail). I'm going to be scanning his financial documents when he's out, and saving them to my cloud storage.

I can't talk to him to try and repair this. He'd simply deny abuse, and try to twist it all that it's my fault. Like DD, I'm a little scared of him now.

Sorry, this must seem quite a ramble, but I guess it's because I am finally letting it all out. I'm not expecting anyone to reply, but it's helping me to set it down.

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HumpHumpWhale · 24/07/2017 11:45

Just found this thread too and have read all your updates. You're amazing, well done. You'll be free of him soon, and then just think - you'll never have to bite your tongue and be polite to him again!

BitOfANameChange · 24/07/2017 13:44

DS had a bit of a panic attack at lunch out yesterday. DP being with us, he saw this and started going on about being concerned, now that both DCs are showing signs on stress and anxiety.

So we spent the walk home with him ranting at me about being closed out and how it made him feel not to be included. I can sort of understand that, but really, he's the problem, how can I talk to him about it? He'd just deny it's him, he really can't accept any criticism. He'd just bluster and try to turn it round to being someone/something else's fault.

He scares me definitely. He scares the DCs. I hate the fact that they have learned to put on a front in the same way I have.

Someone mentioned pension. I wouldn't get access to that, we're not married. But in any case, I have far better pensions in place.

I did, though, see an article from the Independent about getting a portion of the house. Even though we aren't married, I can prove I put a substantial amount directly into paying the mortgage as a lump sum, the money didn't go via his account but direct from mine to the mortgage lender. I can prove I paid half the cost of replacement windows. I can prove I paid for materials to upgrade a room. I paid the utility bills, I paid the majority of the children's school trips, all food, etc, etc.

I do have the name of a solicitor who could give me some free time, so I'll make sure I have plenty of information so as not to waste it.

But little things just piss me off. 30 fucking years, and he still doesn't make my tea the way I like it, on the rare occasions he makes me one. (And my colleague who sits next to me has made more tea for me this year, than DP has made in at least 5 years.)

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Kirsty157 · 24/07/2017 16:34

Not long now OP. Just came to this thread and I think you're an inspiration. Well done x

Hidingtonothing · 24/07/2017 17:18

All those little things just confirm you're right to leave Bit, they're the things you need to remember if you have a wobble or doubt yourself in the run up to you going. Could you start to try to distance yourself now, would these last couple of weeks be easier if you could sort of mentally and emotionally detach and look at his behaviour dispassionately?

I don't know if I'm explaining that properly but, knowing that you're going and that what he does and says won't affect you for much longer, maybe viewing him more objectively would strengthen your resolve and make it easier to cope til you can go and easier to actually make the break when the time comes. Not that I doubt you will do it but it can be bloody terrifying striking out on your own, even when you know it's the right thing and anything that makes you feel stronger and more sure of yourself has to be a good thing.

BitOfANameChange · 24/07/2017 20:04

Hiding I get what you're saying and I think I have been detaching for some time. While I've never been the lone adult, I feel confident in going it alone.

Actually, I've just been talking with him about the Charlie Gard stuff and the convo got round to some things that reveal some of his deepest thinking, and it's very revealing.

He said he couldn't be a parent to a less than perfect child, that he'd never cope with disabilities. Reckons that severely disabled chldren should be allowed to die.

He said that if we were younger, with more money and space, he'd be happy to foster children. But he would be interested in the youngest of children because then you can form their identities, as the older ones would be manipulative and undisciplined.

He's also being much more open with racism, Islamophobia, homophobia and all the other right wing stuff I don't agree with. He voted Leave, of course. He managed to keep most of these things well hidden for a long time, but it's all coming out now.

(And now I'm voting leave, too.)

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ArchangelBlue · 24/07/2017 20:10

Good for you. I wish you all the best.

BitOfANameChange · 27/07/2017 21:08

So, today I signed for the house and got the keys. Deposit all paid, first month's rent, etc.

Have just been up there, with DD. We were meant to be shopping, so it covered our tracks nicely. I left one bag of stuff up there, had a good look round, and checked a few things. Also met a neighbour and introduced myself. It's someone who'll never have met DP, and she seems nice.

I'm actually feeling quite good about it all now. I do know, though, that I'll be feeling crap just before we actually do move ( about a week, need to organise some stuff).

Was also chatting with DD on the way back. I said there's a little part of me that's feeling guilty and worrying about him. But I took a good look at those feelings and I realised that they are actually the product of the years of conditioning, that I've never been able to put my own feelings first while I've been with him. So, I've kncoked them on the head, at least for now.

On a more sober note, I have to recognise there is a chance he'll kill himself once it's fully clear I'm not returning. I will not feel guilty in that case.

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GlitterSparkles17 · 27/07/2017 21:29

I'm very excited for you! Not long at all now I bet your kids can't wait! Imagine the joy you will all feel that first night knowing you will never have to put up with him again in your home.

overduemamma · 27/07/2017 21:30

Eeee good luck OP. When is your actual move date or will that give u away. I really hope it all works out for you x

Groovee · 27/07/2017 21:31

Glad things are progressing. Hope you and Dd felt relaxed. As for stbxh, he's not your responsibility.

BitOfANameChange · 27/07/2017 21:35

Given I've not told DP that I'm leaving, I'm just being a little vague with details. He knows I come on here, but I'd doubt he'd ever read it, given his attitudes to some things.

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Evewasinnocent · 27/07/2017 21:48

Although I understand why you may worry about him - just concern yourself with you and your DC's safety and future happiness. He is responsible for his own actions - but please make sure they don't involve any harm to you. I still think a visit to the solicitor may be useful before and not just after you leave. Well done though - you should be very proud of yourself.

SandyY2K · 27/07/2017 23:04

You're fabulous OP. You really are. Well done with signing for the house. You're going to be so happy.

I hope you have a plan to take things over to the new place little by little, without causing suspicion.

I'm so very pleased for you.

Babybooboohead · 27/07/2017 23:24

Good luck with this, you seem realistic, balanced and capable. Keep strong!

Lonoxo · 28/07/2017 16:44

Good luck, I hope it all works out for you.

hellsbellsmelons · 28/07/2017 16:53

Well done OP.
Great update.
Anything he does, to himself or otherwise is totally his responsibility.
Very glad you recognise that.
So close now!
Try to enjoy your weekend.

Fishface77 · 29/07/2017 00:25

Been watching.
Well done op!
Your doing great!
Looking forward to hearing how much your all relaxing after the move!Flowers

user1496272879 · 29/07/2017 00:48

Just another Flowers you are a Star. All the best god luck. God bless

TomatoTomAto · 29/07/2017 00:49

I've just found this thread and I have to say that I'm in awe of you. Keep going!
You're one brave lady!

hatsoncats · 29/07/2017 12:23

If he threatens to kill himself, advise him to seek help & end the call.
Then immediately ring the police with his location & repeat his suicide threats. If genuine, they will get help for him.
An official report may help in the future if he starts to make comments like this to the DC. They should not be exposed to threats & emotional abuse like this.
If you can, I would also get paper copies of documents, in case he can hack into your iCloud account & delete the contents. I would also keep a diary of his behaviour, in particular any instances of abusive comments, and "grabbing" your daughter in a way that leaves marks.

Keep planning, stash as much away as possible and stay safe.
Cheering you on & wishing you all the luck in the world.

eddielizzard · 29/07/2017 13:07

omg you're amazing!!! i'm in awe of you, seriously. your kids are so lucky to have you.

DON'T FEEL GUILTY about him. he's made his own decisions. he has a wonderful family and he's pissed all over you all. he's had a zillion chances and he's blown every one.

move to your new house, love your kids and enjoy your freedom. i'd recommend eating pizza for a week and doing absolutely no chores.

BitOfANameChange · 29/07/2017 17:40

Well, thank you all for the comments, much appreciated.

I've started planning and moving bits in, stuff he won't notice. I've got a couple of windows for delivery of stuff, and have got a couple of things off gumtree to come. Have been promised some spare furniture by family members. Just need to organise tv/broadband package and a couple of other deliveries. so far, so good.

Dbro actually suggested I interview for MI5, says he can't believe how I can organise this without cracking. I told him I have too much at stake to crack now.

As for documents, I have several emails and copies of these saved in more than one icloud..... Some of these emails have never been accessed on a shared device, so he has no knowledge of them.

When I took DD to the doctor, I spoke about the home situation, with no effort to minimise it. I know it's on record there now.

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clickhappy · 31/07/2017 09:43

Sounds amazing, hang in there. How long until you tell him?

jeaux90 · 31/07/2017 10:16

You are amazing and strong. When you move into to your new place just take a few minutes and relish the thought of your new life xxx (I still think about my own moment 7 years on )

BitOfANameChange · 31/07/2017 19:59

I had a long hard think about how to tell him.

And given we are all a little scared of him, and I really feel he's becoming more unpredictable lately, I'm not saying a word.

I'm leaving a letter. I'm not going to bother explaining my decision, it simply won't be accepted by him, whatever I said. If I were to tell him in person, everything I said would be dismissed and I'd be made to feel that yet again I was at fault. He's never really accepted any criticism, any apology has been of the "sorry, but..." variety.

So, a short letter explaining that I've left, the DCs opted to come with me, and he can text or email, I won't be accepting calls at this stage. If he wants to contact the DCs, he has their numbers, I won't be getting in the way as they can make their own decisions (although I'm sure they'll discuss stuff with me).

I'll include a note about child support amounts as per the online calculator.

I can't rekindle feelings for him I no longer have. So whatever he says about changing, if he even gets that far, there's just no point.

In other news, I got some furniture today, all carefully taken to the new house without suspicion.

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