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I'm leaving him.

542 replies

BitOfANameChange · 24/06/2017 10:30

I've named changed for this; he knows I use MN, although he probably doesn't follow me online.

After 30 years, I've had enough. It's all low level controlling and abusive stuff, which he would certainly deny is abusive. He can be nice at times, especially in public.

But I get treated like a child, told to do this or that. Since the moment I got pregnant I found myself effectively doing all the chores. He'll find some way, all the time, of making an excuse whey he shouldn't be doing them. In particular, his excuse when I was part time for the sake of the children (despite my job at the time being the higher earning potential) was that I had "more time".

I've been reading this board for a long time, and had a slow realisation that a lot of the things described here apply to me in some way. I do come from a dysfunctional family, but they aren't nasty parents, just clueless from their dysfunctions. They love me and my DB dearly, and are loaning me the money to set up in a rental property with the DCs. It's probably no coincidence that DB has also recently come out of an abusive relationship.

'D'P and I never married. He'd divorced his wife when I met him, quite young, and I know now the flags I should have spotted then; badmouthing the ex (who I actually get on well with), the maninuplation by hinting at suicide a couple of times, the depression that somehow allows hime to be an arsehole, etc.

So as we aren't married, the house is in his name, but I ended up being pressured into paying off a chuck of the mortgage with my redundancy payment, "to reduce our costs until you get another job". But he never cut down his mortgage overpayments, cleared the morgage and is now building up his savings, while I have no savings having paid his morgage. I do work now, FT.

The DCs and I walk on eggshells wondering about what mood he'll be in on getting home. Never actually been physically abusive, though. But the incident that started me thinking about the relationship and it's effect on the DCs was late last year, when DC1 and I were in the kitchen with him, and he told her to stop "screaming". She wasn't but her voice can get high when she's excited. She spoke again in that high voice and he yelled at her. She scuttled to the other end of the kitchen before i could intervene and he grabbed her arm hard enough to leave a mark. She's scared of hime now, with good reason. Since then, there's been a little edge of aggression towards her which he doesn't show to our DS. She has bad anxiety and mild depression (been to a doctor) and DS is showing the signs of following suit.

I've always been a comfort eater, and looking back I can see living with him has always raised my stress levels. I'm obese, but instead of being supportive I get constant fat digs from him, including during sex, and he wonders why my libido is dropping. I'm making modifications to my diet and have recently increased my activity levels significantly. I feel better for that.

There are other factors as well, influencing my decision, but going into them could out me.

I realised how much of a crap person he is, and secretly started planning an exit. I've never rented before having straight from parents into his house. But I'm using some of the info gleaned from you lovely people and my application for a little house for me and DCs is progressing well.

I have a cousin with some housing experience, who has given me the name of a good local solitor, so I'm hoping I can get back the money I paid into the house (I do have paper trail). I'm going to be scanning his financial documents when he's out, and saving them to my cloud storage.

I can't talk to him to try and repair this. He'd simply deny abuse, and try to twist it all that it's my fault. Like DD, I'm a little scared of him now.

Sorry, this must seem quite a ramble, but I guess it's because I am finally letting it all out. I'm not expecting anyone to reply, but it's helping me to set it down.

OP posts:
jeaux90 · 10/08/2017 08:46

I'm really happy for you finding some peace.

I hope (despite the flushes etc and first nerves) that you are finally getting to relax in your own home away from the eggshells and bullying.

I also hope you can start looking forward to a new future, one without him in it.

Xxx

BitOfANameChange · 10/08/2017 08:50

Woke up to another email this morning.

His proposals for a way forward, including money to cover the extra costs I'm now incurring.

2 days ago, I'd have been a mess on receiving this, but I was just sad. Sad that he can't even give me space.

I'm planning a short reply, but not immediately. I'm not in any way ready to discuss things and will make that clear. I may reply tomorrow.

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lampert · 10/08/2017 09:08

Wow OP. I've just RTFT. Wow, you are amazing. Flowers

You should be so proud of yourself. I wish you lots of strength and all the happiness in the world for this new stage of your life.

hellsbellsmelons · 10/08/2017 09:14

Well done OP.
I saw my ExP this morning as well.
Not even a flutter or a flush.
Just nothing!
You are certainly getting there and a delayed response is definitely the way to go.

Freecycle is great for free stuff. I got a dishwasher FOC on there.
Also look on facebook and see if you can find your local community page.
Put a note on there about moving and needing things and people will help.
Also on facebook your local selling page. I gave away stuff on there.

Little by little you will build your lovely new home.

rizlett · 10/08/2017 09:41

Because you left the perfect way you did op he's probably really having to wrack his brains to find ways to manipulate reach you.

I am in awe of you taking on board all you need to and giving yourself space and time to consider every thing he says or tries.

I'm sure you're aware of the things he may escalate to try and reestablish his power with you. Keep focusing on what you need and getting support for as often as is needed.

You are really doing such a good thing for you and your dc.

clickhappy · 10/08/2017 09:53

I would reply with a holding email, saying you are currently working out what's best for you and the children and will be in touch in due course.

He can go whistle for control of this mess that he has created.

rizlett · 10/08/2017 10:08

No need to reply until you want to.

hatsoncats · 10/08/2017 10:20

Don't be rushed into a hasty responce. You are in control now, so take your sweet time & consider everything. Don't put anything in an email that could be used against you, & remember that his emails could be a trail for him to use in court to prove how "reasonable" he is.

For now, just wait...no rush...

juneau · 10/08/2017 11:44

He is still trying to exert control OP. It's good that you can see this and are determined to take your own time. Make sure you only reply IF and when you want to. He no longer controls you. He no longer controls the finances. You have left him. It is over. Are you planning to consult a solicitor? I would suggest you do, even if at this stage it's just for a general chat about your position and the benefits of separating formally. It doesn't force you to do anything, but knowledge is power.

BitOfANameChange · 10/08/2017 13:28

I've been on MN since 2009, under one name or another. I've read this particular board on and off, and it was here that I read things that started me thinking.

Over the last couple of years, my thinking got deeper and I could no longer hide from the reality of life. I've taken on board other people's experiences, so if you've posted here about a bad relationship, please know you've helped me. In time, I'll pay it forward. OTOH, I'm a procrastinator by nature, so the effort I've put in to this has been a major undertaking.

The only reason I can see this clearly, is that sadly people have experienced this too, and posted about it, and for that I thank you.

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AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2017 15:13

At this point I wouldn't put anything in writing to him especially regarding money. You don't want to set any type of 'precedent' that could be used later when it comes to maintenance. You know, "You don't need £, you previously agreed that £ was perfectly adequate, here's the email to prove it".

Anything regarding assets or money should be run by your solicitor before you agree, even in this interim period. Right now, your responses need to be "I'll think about it", "We'll see", or dead silence.

BitOfANameChange · 10/08/2017 16:23

I agree not to put anything in writing about money at this stage, I've got details for the solicitor used by a relative.

Im simply planning to repeat that I need space and will be in touch later on.

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AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2017 19:24

Perfect response Bit.

BitOfANameChange · 12/08/2017 19:45

Well, he's now started the blame game and still suggesting someone else is involved. A week ago, I'd have been in tears, but now? I just feel sad.

I know his world has just crashed but I don't want to go back. I'm scared of the future and how I'll afford it, but I can't be there with him now.

OP posts:
qazxc · 12/08/2017 19:54

Don't engage in his mind games or allow him to rush you into an agreement.
See that solicitor and discuss your options.

RandomMess · 12/08/2017 20:00

Block contact so you can't read these messages. Auto file them to a separate folder on email and block calls/texts/social media.

BitOfANameChange · 12/08/2017 20:10

The messages are not now bothering me, which probably tells me quite a lot.

I'm reading them to give me clues about his thoughts regarding the children. I think he'll now try direct contact so I just need to prepare them and see what their wishes are.

He's more or less accusing me of turning them against him. Which is tosh, I tried so hard to find a way to smooth things out before we left.

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Groovee · 12/08/2017 20:11

He's realising you aren't coming back. Be honest with the children. They can choose not to reply if they feel that is best for them.

HelenRose1111 · 12/08/2017 20:16

He's just trying anything, everything to make you think about him. Because he's used to the World revolving around him.

Auto file the emails and read them when YOU want to, when you feel ready.
Stop responding instantly, respond when you have had time to think rationally.

You know the truth, he is trying to blame you and shift the guilt into you. HE is getting back every shred he gave out to you.

Karma....this is your time, you're in control. And you're FREE. Well done OP.

lastrose123 · 12/08/2017 20:47

In the end his relationship with the children is for him to make Why would you want to turn them against their father? If they are not happy with him that is his fault and its up to him to rectify it if he wants to.

ddrmum · 12/08/2017 21:29

Bit, you are fabulous. Strong, determined & amazing.your DC will be incredibly proud of their awesome mumStar. Your exP will never take any responsibility for his part in the breakdown of your relationship or his treatment of your DC. Men like this never take any responsibility but are quick to pass blame to anyone else (or make up an excuse!). Without wishing to take the shine off your fantastic achievement, do be very careful about your personal safety. It is a dangerous time for you all. Make sure if your children do decide to see him that it's in a public place for quite a while. Any threat at all must be reported to police. You will need to be in your guard for sometime. Wishing you all ever increasing happiness and the amazing future that awaits you all.

SabineUndine · 12/08/2017 21:48

Has anyone mentioned freecycle or freegle for getting useful stuff? I give away tons that way and once got a brilliant 'find' too.

rizlett · 13/08/2017 06:21

He's accusing you of having someone else involved because he doesn't believe you are clever enough to be able to get out by yourself.

He never saw the real and wonderful you at all.

Be prepared for him to say/do anything to find out where you are.

It's really good that you can see through all the smoke and mirrors and now realise who/what he really is. That's amazing op. Flowers

MerryRealisation · 13/08/2017 07:23

Bit, I've had exactly the same. Mine switches from sad, angry, blame all the time to see which one works. When none of them do he starts again but goes in harder.
I think the point where it stops bothering you as much is a huge turning point. You're doing really well.

BitOfANameChange · 13/08/2017 18:36

I'm on a local FB group for free stuff and recycling. I got a couple of things via Gumtree and there's a couple of otherocal options too.

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