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I decided to stay but I question that decision

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Headupshouldersback · 14/06/2017 23:57

I am 42 yrs old, I have been with my husband for 22 years and we have 2 children aged 12 and 14 yrs. I was blissfully happy for 7 years with my husband until one day I found pictures on our desktop (2002) of a naked woman with a dildo hanging out of her with the message "wish this was your cock" she was wearing hand cuffs ( maybe a reference to him being a policeman) and upon searching his things I found a floppy disk of photos of him naked, wanking etc, photos he had sent of himself. I was literally winded with shock. This was my amazing husband, we had a 18 month old daughter and he worshipped us. I confronted him and he apologised, said he'd never met this person, it was an online thing, nothing had happened and he was so sorry. I was so hurt but this was a first offence and for the sake of our little girl, I decided to forgive him. Then a couple of months later I came home early to find him on an internet porn chat room, chatting to someone. I flipped, I packed a bag and tried to leave, he took the keys to the car, we had a blazing row, it was really ugly, but I honestly didn't know how to leave, I had no family and I had left my job to have our daughter. We were living in a house I owned, but I had no family support or financial independence etc and I really didn't want to be a single parent, working full time with a kid in childcare. I stayed, we worked things out, he was very sorry but I didn't trust him the same and I didn't love him completely like before. Time is a healer however , we had another baby, moved house etc and on a day to day basis, we get on so great, we can talk all day and night and we have always had a great sex life. 16 months ago I discovered he had £10K of debt that he had kept hidden from me (built up over a year, made up of his poor money management and overspending when he worked away) Then 14 months ago he accidently left his mobile phone at home whilst he took our son to rugby. It pinged a fb message , from an ex girlfriend of 27 yrs ago, it was chatty but not flirty, but I felt sick to my stomach. This was the girl he left his first wife for. He was with his first wife for 5 yrs before they got married, then the day after they married he got sent away for 14 weeks training with the police as a new recruit. On this course he met this new girl (she was a waitress, training to be a nurse) on that course. They had a relationship and he ended up leaving his wife. The new girlfriend dumped him after a few months. He was devastated but moved on, met someone else and was in a relationship of 2 years when the waitress looked him up out of the blue. She had been dumped and wanted a shoulder to cry on. He dropped everything including his then girlfriend to embark on another relationship with the waitress for a year until she dumped him again (by phone on the day of her graduation - she was moving on ) and left him heartbroken. I responded to her message and introduced myself. I said I was devastated that he hadn't mentioned her contact and asked if there was anything going on, she said she had looked him up 6 mths previously and they had just been chatting as friends, she was really happy that he had such a lovely wife and family and she had a great life in south east france (despite getting recently divorced !!) and just enjoyed chatting to him. I asked her to stop contacting him, said that it made me very uncomfortable and to basically fuck off and leave my family alone. I had several blazing rows with my husband and he slept in the spare room for 2 weeks. My children were ill with stress. My son in particular was vomiting in school etc and it was pure stress.
Again I thought, he hasn't actually shagged anyone, it was an emotional affair of sorts and I was devastated. Again he was sorry and wanted to make everything right. I was ill with stress. I started running to help my mental health and boy did I look good although I never felt so miserable. My husband offered anything I wanted, I could get a smaller house for me and the kids mortgage free, he would pay us maintenance etc, he wanted to work things out, he sent a long message to the waitress explaining how he regretted his contact with her, told her how fabulous I was and how great his life had been in the years since her, because of me. He told her that she had brought him nothing but misery and he never wanted to hear from her again. I resolved to try again. In the weeks that followed he gave all his passwords etc and I found a long stream of messages between him and a female work colleague, not flirty, but frequent and I felt very uncomfortable about that. I asked her outright if they had had an affair and she was horrified, she said he was her work dad and she apologised for any offence caused and promised not to message him again. I also found an old nokia brick phone with a load of very suggestive and flirty texts from a female doctor he was working with whilst policing the olympics, he claimed that she was very flirty with everyone and that her husband came out for drinks with them in the evening and that it was innocent. I just thought 'here's another one'. I told 2 close friends, One told me to go home, make love, claim your husband, he's yours. The other said let the bastard pay the mortgage, enjoy your life for 5 years looking after the kids,not working etc then leave the bastard. Over a year on, on a daily basis it's fine, but he works away a lot and I feel really uncomfortable about that. When he's at home and on his phone etc I feel really uncomfortable. 2 months ago I found out that he had posted naked pictures of me on a porn site. I felt sick. He explained that sometimes when he is down he goes on porn websites and looks at the readers wives section and this particular time he had posted pictures of me (you couldn't tell it was me) but I felt this was an abuse of trust. I told him i'd had enough. It was over and I had the house valued etc. But I cannot bring myself to end it. I have no solid proof of a physical affair but I don't trust him anymore. He is a great dad to the kids and we have a lovely home and lifestyle etc but I am so alone. He is the only family I have ever known and I have been with him all my adult life. I look in the mirror and I am ashamed of the fact that I accept this situation. I fear for the pain that a separation will cause my children. I am 12 years younger than my husband, I am attractive and I have been a great wife and frankly I do not deserve this. What do you advise??

OP posts:
QuiteLikely5 · 15/06/2017 23:21

This marriage is slowly destroying you.

You have stayed far too long only to be met with repeated disappointment - that's because he never really did change.

And he won't.

It's time, to ask him to leave and claim the marital home, apply for maintenance and a share of his pension.

The next man you meet will not necessarily have children.

Working does not equal being unavailable for your children.

You have woken up - now it's time to stand up and move forward

RedastheRose · 16/06/2017 15:20

I'm glad you have an otherwise good marriage. Perhaps in your case you could consider marriage guidance counselling. Make him see that you are not willing to accept his lip service apologies anymore and that he has to stop this sort of disrespectful behaviour. But you have to follow through with the consequences if he does anything like this again and he has to be absolutely open with you (phones/computers/iPads etc all unlocked and capable of being viewed by you at any time). I really doubt that he will be happy with that or capable of keeping his word when he has broken it so many times in the past but only you know whether you want to stay with him or give him yet another chance.

sofability · 20/06/2017 19:53

Heads up
I am in your position exactly and feel your anxiety over your children, I am in the process of finding a job so I can leave as I know it will benefit our children in the long run, however hard the initial 'leaving' will be
I just wanted to say to you that he will not change, I know that to my cost
Stay strong and gain support from close friends.. you are not to blame for loving this person.. you are so much better than him.. his baggage is not yours xx

sofability · 20/06/2017 19:58

We know what we need to do and I totally understand that it is a big step that you must take, me also.. I just hope we can find the self belief that we can move on to a much better life for ourselves and our children .. we only have one life OP..

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/06/2017 20:26

Children only get that sick over a potential break up if they are seeing and hearing far too much. Which presumably means you were having big screaming rows within earshot of them which included shouting about divorce.

Wouldn't it be better to use the lull between finding out about the last one and finding out about the current one, to quietly, without drama, without the children having to know for ages, prepare the divorce, where you will live etc. Then you can announce it calmly, with certainty and with minimum drama to the children. Make it as easy as possible on them.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/06/2017 20:28

He can still be a brilliant dad if he lives elsewhere. If he was a brilliant dad before divorce there's no reason to believe he would stop being a brilliant dad just because he sees them less often.

Aridane · 20/06/2017 20:31

Can't read that sorry.

Paragraphs are your friend.

Aren't you just exuding empathy - mumsnet at its finest

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