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Arrogant boyfriend & says comments to my 5 year old which I don't like-am I sensitive?

166 replies

emmad1980 · 11/06/2017 19:58

Hi
I would really appreciate some advice please. I've been in a relationship with a guy for a year. He's a great guy in so many ways but there are several things irritating me. I live on my own with my 4 yr old son and he lives alone in his own house

  • He goes on a lot about how hard he works round his house and how much he has to do etc.. and has said in front of my son on a few separate occasions something which I dont like- round his he was in kitchen making us both a cup of tea and my son was "helping" - pouring in milk and my partner said "We're doing team work - working - whats mummy doing?" and again when he was putting up a shelf for me the day I moved home - "we're working hard aren't we?" And what's mummy doing?" right at the one second I was sat down - course my son said what he saw "nothing" - my partner said oh yeh "mummys doing nothing".

He once commented when after I worked full time all week with a migraine fri night - got to his sat morn and was very sunny - I got out my towel and lay on the grass to soak up some sun! He has a lovely garden and was watering his plants etc again he said that comment - and hes said before that when I'm at his (maybe one night a week I stay over and he stays at mine one night a week - he's said I should offer to help him in the garden watering pants etc or in general with anything when I'm at his if I see he's doing something - like watering - I said I'll of course cook, wash up, tidy up after myself but I'm not going to go round and help him with his chores on the only two days off I get a week. Of course if he needed help with something I'd do it.

In general I worry that he goes on about how hard he has to work in his house to keep it so nice (he has a large 4 bed and he is VERY clean and tidy. He's fine with my sons toys scattered round but he likes to be very clean). I worry if we live together and down line have kids he'd be type of man to come home - me on mat leave or working part time and him make comments like "whatve you done all day" and comment that I dont do enough round the house.

He's also made jokes before which I've told him I dont like "you greedy b*h" when I ate the last sweet and when I finished of a whole bowl fish and chips! Its clearly a joke but Ive said I dont like it. Altho the first time he said it over fish and chips I was stunned and he said "Im just joking - was trying to embarass you!" -

He's obsessed with his shower - expects me to wipe it bone dry after each shower to avoid water marks

We broke up 2 weeks ago but back together and I raised a few points - I said with the comments I cant accept them and he said its just a joke and he cant promise not to make them - its who he is and he wants to be able to joke in a social setting etc - I think he means jokes like "shes so lucky to have me, I work so hard, she has everything, she gets to work part time and doesn't do anything all day" all joking but I cant stand it

Hes said before "I'm such a catch and my ex could have had it all with me - house car holidays family" Hes a little arrogand and he has said before "I know I'm a little arrogant but I like it" - ive said for me arrogance is the worst trait in a person!

Lastly he hasn't given me a key to his house! He works from home a lot but on 1 occasion he had to leave for work at 7am - I was at his and I leave at 8am - he made me leave with him saying "oh we need to get up and leave by 7" I said well if it was my house I'd give you a key and u leave when u want! He has said I dont really need a key and that people lose keys and that he had a bad experience with an ex who after split he worried she'd let her self in etc... I find it insulting/patronising to be honest that after a year he wont let me have a key and has made me leave at same time as him. He has said I'm pressuring him into giving him a key and he said he doesn't respond well to pressure and he wants to do it in his own time etc ...

Lastly he earns a good salary but is in no way generous! I earn decent money and work full time so I dont want or need his money but he's stingey sometimes! His brother gave us vouchers for a posh meal out for xmas - we ordered a bit more and got charged £20 - he made me pay half - if my family gave us a present and I took him I would pay the extra not split it! Hes given me a memory stick to save our hol pics b4 and charged me the £6 for it!! Supermarket shopping once at the till he was getting a food shop in and I said I'd get a meal and wine and at check out for us to eat together at his and he said "is there anything else you want to get" - he'd got a few other bits like bacon that I would have had a bit of and bread.

He is ALWAYS late to meet me and doesn't always phone. He arrived 45 mins late to meet parents for 1st time - didn't even phone to say late!!! Then when he left he joked about something said bye and "remember, I'm not always right just MOST Of the time" - cringe!

then our first time out with HIS friends in a restaurant - 3 couples - bill came - it wasn't too much and ALL the other couples paid JOINTLY! I got my purse out - not wanting to assume and he worked it out and I paid him my share - in my view that was embarassing - I should have paid him back later when alone or he should have treated me! And next time I'd have paid for him! His friends have joked to me that hes a tight ar*e - so I'm not imagining it! He says his hobby is to save money, coupons etc , count the pennies - and that's how hes ended up with a 4 bed place and will retire by age 50 cos pumps all money into mortgage - never treats me really and if he does he goes on about how lucky I am!!!

Lastly! he's said on several occasions "I dont want to be taken for granted" - I DO NOT do that - hes said it several times. He says he does "so much for me" - he doesn't! My friends say he does nothing over and beyond what a partner should and whenever he does something - once fixed a tap he makes such a deal of it - ur so lucky to have me I'm so good to you etc.... he made me pay him back the 2 quid for the washer tho!!! My idea of a relationship is to put your all in and go out of your way and be kind and generous - not penny pinch and add up exact cost of everything - Im a generous person and I dont keep track. - after a first hol he sent me a spread sheet of all our costs - he'd kept tabs on everything down to the fact I spent £2 on water which we shared and for the can he spent £10 and I spent £5. He had paid for £80 for something on his cred card when we ran out of money and I said let me know how much you've put on your card so I can give you back half - he should have just said oh its x and I'd have paid him! Not send me a spreadsheet!

Hes a decent guy - very family orientated - wants what I want - settle down have kids etc would never cheat, trust worthy etc but he doesn't make me feel like how I think I should feel :-/

could you put up with his "jokes" am I being sensitive?  Thank you if you reached the end! I'd really be grateful for advice and could you put up with this?? he wont change! Am I being to sensitive??   I've brought it all up with him and he wont change
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CeeceeBloomingdale · 12/06/2017 07:10

How practically could you ever live with this man? I'm sure he won't give up HIS house from what you've posted. He won't marry you as you will have a claim on HIS house. Are you prepared to give up a stable home of your own for you and your son to live in HIS house (it'll always he his, you won't be able to change the decor etc as he will likely want it HIS way, and cleaned to HIS standards). Are you prepared to give up everything?

BitchQueen90 · 12/06/2017 07:14

End it.

OP, I'm a single parent. I have been since DS was 10 months and he's almost 4. I refuse to tolerate ANY shit behaviour from a partner when I have DS to consider. if that means being single for the next 10 years then so be it. I'd rather have that than settle for a twat just because it's hard to find somebody else.

A boyfriend is not the most important thing in the world. Having good, decent people around your DS is.

rizlett · 12/06/2017 07:19

Ok - so you've realised your instinct was perfectly right op - this one is a complete twat. (lucky escape)

You tried a few more when you broke up with him but the others were worse - so you returned but again realised he is a dick.

Keep on dating though - maybe the right one for you is the 6th one to come along or maybe the 10th? There's nothing wrong in keeping trying to find him but everything wrong in sticking with an arse for the sake of it.

Just keep going because every time you refine what's acceptable to you and what isn't.

cansu · 12/06/2017 07:27

Honestly imagine living with him. He will be worse as he will think he doesnt need to make an effort anymore. Is having a crap relationship better than no relationship? I would also be concerned that even after telling him you arent happy with some of his behaviour he has basically told you he isnt going to change.

altiara · 12/06/2017 08:06

Thing is while you're wasting your time going back to him, your potential new bf is wondering around finding somebody else!!
Dump 'god's gift', go out with friends, make new hobbies, meet new people and enjoy life!

jwelford · 12/06/2017 08:20

Move on, stop planning a life with him, he maybe wealthy and have a nice house, however he doesn't sound ready to commit to you. You've not got a key to his house, it's unlikely you've got a key to his heart.

Oliversmumsarmy · 12/06/2017 08:45

Don't be swayed by a house. Given how tight he is I doubt he actually wants children because he would have to pay for them.

If you do have a child with this man his mother will label you a gold digger if she hasn't done so already for even looking twice at her son and he will look at all costs relating to the child as your responsibility because you should be grateful because he got you pregnant.

Imagine the CSA trying to get money out of him

Then if you

Hissy · 12/06/2017 09:03

he doesn't make me feel like how I think I should feel

THIS.

It's all you need to think about. It's enough for you to bin him.

What he is doing with your son is undermining you.

Up until now he's been on best behaviour, and now you can see who he is with his little comments.

A SPREADSHEET FFS?

This man will only bring misery to your life. trust me.

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 12/06/2017 09:09

Your post made such uncomfortable reading I'm not surprised you don't feel how you think you should in this relationship. He sounds awful. As soon as I read the part where he talks to your son about you I thought "get rid of him ASAP before he teaches your DS to think you're a lazy arse", and reading the rest just confirmed he's an utter wanker, as PPs have mentioned. I don't like the sound of his mother either and if you had a child with him I could envisage huge problems with her. Nope, get rid.

GreenShorts · 12/06/2017 09:15

Imagine, god forbid years down the line you get really ill. Would he make you feel like a burden? Would he care for you because he loves you or resent every second of it?

Anniegetyourgun · 12/06/2017 09:49

I think you should say to him that he is right, you do not appreciate him enough. A greedy, lazy sponger such as yourself does not deserve a man of his many qualities. You are therefore reluctantly letting him go so he can find someone worthy of his greatness.

And then flop down in front of the telly with your son, give him a big cuddle, and share a bowl of chips with the most important person in your life. You know it makes sense.

Mulberry72 · 12/06/2017 10:10

He sounds exactly like my ex BIL, he counted every single penny, they had to split each bill right down the middle, even though he earned a 6 figure salary plus massive bonus! He got worse as he got older and my DSis had enough.

He won't change, I promise!

emmad1980 · 12/06/2017 13:37

Thanks everyone! - apart from slutty town who said I seem really selfish and not thinking of my child! The opposite actually - we have been together so long because altho he occasionaly has made the odd silly comment to me he has always been amazing with my child - they get on well and hes got a lot of time and patience for my son - my mum even said "you'll not find anyone better than him - hes great with your son" - but that was before the comment about "mummys doing nothing" - since that came up now im thinking well actually hes not so good around my son if hes starting saying that!! So no im definitely not selfish.. but ive realised that just cos he adores my son and my son adores him isn't a reason to stay with him! He loves kids and wants his own soon - but I don't think hes right for me for all the above reasons!!!

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Hissy · 12/06/2017 14:37

With a mum like yours, you need to be VERY wary of having been programmed to accept any old shit. It's attitudes like this that create targets for domestic abuse.

As you know Domestic Abuse covers mental and physical manipulate
let's face it, this bloke is already manipulating you and your son, and belittling you

You are not happy, and your instincts are shrieking at you. for good reason.

emmad1980 · 12/06/2017 14:47

Thanks Hissy - yes I agree with u in a lot of ways altho I should say my mum doesn't know his negatives! I've not told her about the comments etc - so shes just going on how she sees him with me and my son - As for the mental manipulation/ belittling - that's what I struggle with because some people DO actually joke with each other "greedy bi**h" etc- friends do sometimes but I don't like it and he knows I don't like it. I told him my ex was actually really sexist (I know how to pick em!) my current partner said the other day "your over sensitive cos your ex was sexist and my jokes - you over react as you're sensitive" - The comments to my son tho aren't acceptable what ever way u look at it I dnot think - altho he des try to justify it!! and he even said "well what DID you do that day" - "what ARE you doing?" basically saying hes right to say what am I doing -

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Ceto · 12/06/2017 16:07

So have you binned him?

emmad1980 · 12/06/2017 16:24

Not yet Ceto - not seen him yet - his sister in law has gone into labour today so I don't think its quite the right time! I need to speak to him soon tho!

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emmad1980 · 12/06/2017 16:29

"Doesn't sound like a bad man? WTF? This is a man who calls his girlfriend a "greedy bitch" for eating a bowl of fish and chips! Who delights in telling her young son that "mummy doesn't do anything". Who values her time so little that he's happy to turn up 45 minutes late to meet her with no apology?

Your standards are depressingly low user"

Hellonheals - would the three things above on their own be enough for u to end it? (the greedy bitch comment was definitely a joke) but I had told him once before I don't like those jokes! I think that the individual traits on their own could be ok if it was just ONE thing - like poor time keeping on tis own or one odd silly comment to my son - if the rest of his personality was great but I think its cumulative! its all added up to really piss me off -

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expatinscotland · 12/06/2017 16:49

More red flags than a Maoist convention. BIN. Stop fooling yourself, there's never going to be a good time to end it. Get rid now.

AnyFucker · 12/06/2017 17:35

What the bloody hell does his SIL going into labour have to do with this? Confused

emmad1980 · 12/06/2017 18:33

Well not best timing dumping him the day his newphews born.. not very sensitive?!

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dontcallmethatyoucunt · 12/06/2017 18:38

Ah, fuck that. Never a good time, next week he'll break his leg, then you'll feel bad. Life goes on, bin him and worry about you and DS not this selfish idiot.

ShuttyTown · 12/06/2017 18:40

Thanks for the new user name OP I much prefer it Grin

I know being single is better than being with wrong man especially when i have a child to consider - but being single for years isnt much fun either!

That is why I said you were selfish. You seem to have been putting up with his shit for a while and even got back with him knowing how he is, when in your words 'you've got a child to consider'. Reading your updates however it seems you have seen sense and have realised it's not good for you or your DS. Good luck Flowers

NoLoveofMine · 12/06/2017 18:41

I can't see why not dump him today. He'll probably hold his nephew for a minute and charge his brother and sister in law for babysitting.

Justmadeperfectflapjacks · 12/06/2017 18:42

He has become an uncle. Not suffered a bereavement. .
Don't look for excuses to put off the necessary.
Ltb.