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French Martini Bastard

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backscratcher · 13/05/2017 13:54

Hi everyone.
I hadn't realised my first thread had filled up so quickly - I'm completely overwhelmed at how many people have replied to me - and how quickly you have all done it! And thank you to everyone who has inboxed me their support.
It has made me feel less alone.

Not much to update. He hasn't come home. The bags are still outside. He hasn't text or called and I haven't attempted to text or call him.

My sister has just left as she has to go and pick up her kids but she'll be back later. My daughter is with her dad until tomorrow so I have some time to think of what I'm going to do and what I'm going to tell her.

Some more things, which may sound like a drip feed so sorry about that - but to those that have asked if he'd done this before etc - he works only 25 hours a week on a rota basis, so early or late shift. I work full time week days. I earn considerably more than him. We have a joint account and both have our own accounts. I pay in a sum of money each month to the joint account which we can both access. Tenancy is in my name so I fully pay the rent. I know he has a credit card but don't know how much money he has in his own account, or what he owes on credit card.
He works 25 hours a week because he also has a 'hobby' which he is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to turn into a business. On days when he is not working then he will collect my daughter from school so that suits me.
I have never had any reason to doubt that when he was not working that he was anywhere dodgy or doing anything dodgy.

I have been cheated on before but I left him because of how distrustful I became and because I hated the person I had became, sneaking about to check phones and try to access their Facebook - I didn't ever want to be that person again. So I made an effort not to be that person again. I chose to trust.

I've known dp - or rather twatface- for over 4 years - I met him through a friend. He pursued me for a few months and we've properly been together 3 years. He moved in with me just over a year ago. I thought we were happy. I truly thought he loved me and my daughter. We rarely argued and when we did it was never serious really - just about small stuff. We had fun together. Our sex life was good. I felt loved by him. I never felt the need to try to check his phone or to ask him for the passcode or to ask to see his own bank statements or to double check where he was on his days off whilst I was at work. I always believed what he told me.
I feel like I've been taken for a mug - both financially and emotionally. And he was just some fucking cocklodger and he's been caught out and he's too scared to face me. He doesn't do confrontation well - prefers the easy life - the fucking coward.

I'm going to try to have a nap. I'm exhausted and my eyes are sore from crying.
I am going to contact him later because I want to know who she is and how long it's been going on.
I really don't think I will ever trust another man ever again.

I didn't rush into this with him after the split from my daughters dad. I saw no one else - not even a date - between dickhead1 and dickhead2 and I thought I'd chosen wisely. What a mug.

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IHaventStoppedCravingYet · 13/05/2017 17:36

You've been on my mind today and I hope you get the answers you need and deserve even if it confirms your fears Flowers

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 13/05/2017 17:38

Onwards and upwards Flowers

CleanHonestGoals · 13/05/2017 17:40

Even if David is still in his phone he has probably changed the number to a friend he has already tipped off. Sadly I have been there. Stay strong.

SheWhoMustNotBeTamed · 13/05/2017 17:43

Find you again.

If it was truly a strange coincidence due to your past he wouldn't be angry but worried about how it had worried you.

The fact this isn't how he is is very telling.

When does he get in?

FucksSakeSusan · 13/05/2017 17:43

He's had enough time to delete and/or edit message threads, change "David"'s number to a mate who is in on it, and generally cover his tracks. Don't let him weasel his way back in, backscratcher, for the sake of yourself and your daughter x

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 13/05/2017 17:47

Ive read the original thread and this one. Is there anyway it could be a misunderstanding, ie there were lies about what he was doing which explains the guilty behaviour, but not another woman...Im just saying, there might be other reasons for his behaviour and your past bad experience is colouring things. Mumsnet also has a habit of whipping things up into a frenzy.

Totally agree with Straycatblue. It could've been a lie to get out of going to your sister's and it's all backfired. I realise OP and many posters on here have been cheated on but I'm shocked how this went from 0-100 so fast based on assumptions. An excellent example of whipping people up into a frenzy alright! Sure, he could be a cheating bastard, but we simply don't know yet. Seriously, we don't even know if the original text was talking about meeting last night because it didn't say.

BifsWif · 13/05/2017 17:49

He knows you want to see his phone, anything incriminating will be long gone

He's a cheat. Save yourself the heartache. He's not even decent enough to be honest with you now!

AnathemaPulsifer · 13/05/2017 17:52

There's no point looking at his phone unless he is thick as two short planks. He's had plenty of time to cover his tracks.

Chops2016 · 13/05/2017 17:52

Personally I think meeting him and giving him a chance to worm his way back in is a bad idea. You know he has lied and cheated, does it really matter who with/how long/where they went?

Also, now you know his mate will cover for him. If he has left the "David" contact in his phone (surely he knows that deleting it would would make it obvious he's lying), be aware he will have probably changed the number to his mates number so if you call it you get his mate, who will cover for him. They could even have fabricated a text message conversation for you to discover since last night.

Basically, I wouldnt trust any "evidence" you find on his phone, since he has had time to prepare for you going through it.

DaisyChainsForever · 13/05/2017 17:53

Can you log into his phone bill online? If it shows up a frequent number that's not urs u have ur 'David' A google or facebook search may identify who the number belongs to. Good Luck. Stay strong.

whattheactualfudge · 13/05/2017 17:56

Faer There's no need for that kind of childish hostile insinuating attitude towards someone who's trying to help. Grow up.

whattheactualfudge · 13/05/2017 17:57

Pingpong No I most certainly do NOT work for a flipping Premier Inn! Ta very much!

whattheactualfudge · 13/05/2017 17:59

TheGentle You have no idea what you are talking about! Stop uttering such drivel! I am trying to help! This is not Eastenders, there is no ulterior motive!

whattheactualfudge · 13/05/2017 18:04

Nobody mentioned anything about accessing records....utter lies & exaggeration. I'm just very very good at finding people. Put it that way...!

Op I would tell him you've seen ONE of 'her' messages and watch him go a shade of grey... xx

ItsNachoCheese · 13/05/2017 18:05

Sending you lots of Cake and Wine op you are a superstar. He on the other hand isnt worth a thing

MMmomDD · 13/05/2017 18:05

frayta

backscratcher · 13/05/2017 18:06

As expected, lie after lie. That cunt wouldn't know the truth if it walked up to him and invited him out for a french martini.
Complete waste of my time. He was with a mate, they watched the football, went out drinking, went back to his mates house and he stayed there. I can phone the mate if I want. Yeah, right.

Checked phone messages. There are some there from me, his family,his friends, but not one from a David. Checked contacts - no David there.
And then one of the biggest insults - I must have imagined it. He didn't receive a message at all, ever from a David about french martinis at that place. And then he said that I was making it up to fuck with his head! I've been off with him for weeks apparently, always trying to pick arguments with him... News to me!

I asked him to reactivate Facebook. No. He didn't see the point because I was intent on not trusting him, and nothing he said or did would make me believe him. Couldn't believe I was treating him like this, etc etc. He said we'd be as well splitting up since that's clearly what I was after since I was determined to distrust him and make him out to be a liar.
I said, too fucking right we're splitting up, get your shit and get the fuck out of my house.

I didn't even get the chance to check locations on his phone or have a proper look through it. He was hovering around and snatched it back once I'd looked through messages, contacts and call log.
Makes no difference anyway. If I was 99% sure that he'd cheated before, then I'm 100% sure now.

All over in about 20 minutes, if that. He got the bags I'd left outside for him, went upstairs and threw a few more of his stuff in, all the whilst muttering that he couldn't believe I was accusing him like this, that he loved me but that I was determined to not trust him and that he wasn't like XXXXX (daughter's dad). Bingo! I'd wondered if he'd pull that one out of the bag.

Well, that's that I guess.
Utter twat.

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DarthMaiden · 13/05/2017 18:06

If this is all innocent I'll happily ram my light sabre up my bottom....

styledilemma · 13/05/2017 18:07

This won't be popular, but

It could all be a huge misunderstanding.
I know that's not the dramatic ending that a lot of people want, but
it's a possibility.
Don't write him off too soon OP.

styledilemma · 13/05/2017 18:08

I didn't see the update.
Strange that he isn 't fighting his corner.
If he was 'innocent' I'm sure he would be moving heaven and earth to stay with you.
Sorry OP.

DarthMaiden · 13/05/2017 18:08

Cross posted - sorry OP but sadly predictable.

Is your sister around tonight?Flowers

backscratcher · 13/05/2017 18:08

Oh, and I got the house keys and the bank card back.
"Is this really what you want to do, you want to throw everything away between us because you've got trust issues..."

Not because I've got trust issues. Because you're a lying no good cunt.

And breathe.
My sister is coming round. I plan on getting plastered.

Happy Saturday folks! Gin

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libbyliz83 · 13/05/2017 18:09

I was wondering how he'd manage to deactivate his Facebook if his phone was dead.

flossyfloss · 13/05/2017 18:10

If it was a misunderstanding wouldn't he still have the message from "David"?

I'm so sorry OP I can't imagine how hurt you feel Flowers xxx

TheGentleMoose · 13/05/2017 18:10

@whattheactualfudge

So please explain how with his name you could find out who he was with last night? Because this is very concerning.