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French Martini Bastard

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backscratcher · 13/05/2017 13:54

Hi everyone.
I hadn't realised my first thread had filled up so quickly - I'm completely overwhelmed at how many people have replied to me - and how quickly you have all done it! And thank you to everyone who has inboxed me their support.
It has made me feel less alone.

Not much to update. He hasn't come home. The bags are still outside. He hasn't text or called and I haven't attempted to text or call him.

My sister has just left as she has to go and pick up her kids but she'll be back later. My daughter is with her dad until tomorrow so I have some time to think of what I'm going to do and what I'm going to tell her.

Some more things, which may sound like a drip feed so sorry about that - but to those that have asked if he'd done this before etc - he works only 25 hours a week on a rota basis, so early or late shift. I work full time week days. I earn considerably more than him. We have a joint account and both have our own accounts. I pay in a sum of money each month to the joint account which we can both access. Tenancy is in my name so I fully pay the rent. I know he has a credit card but don't know how much money he has in his own account, or what he owes on credit card.
He works 25 hours a week because he also has a 'hobby' which he is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to turn into a business. On days when he is not working then he will collect my daughter from school so that suits me.
I have never had any reason to doubt that when he was not working that he was anywhere dodgy or doing anything dodgy.

I have been cheated on before but I left him because of how distrustful I became and because I hated the person I had became, sneaking about to check phones and try to access their Facebook - I didn't ever want to be that person again. So I made an effort not to be that person again. I chose to trust.

I've known dp - or rather twatface- for over 4 years - I met him through a friend. He pursued me for a few months and we've properly been together 3 years. He moved in with me just over a year ago. I thought we were happy. I truly thought he loved me and my daughter. We rarely argued and when we did it was never serious really - just about small stuff. We had fun together. Our sex life was good. I felt loved by him. I never felt the need to try to check his phone or to ask him for the passcode or to ask to see his own bank statements or to double check where he was on his days off whilst I was at work. I always believed what he told me.
I feel like I've been taken for a mug - both financially and emotionally. And he was just some fucking cocklodger and he's been caught out and he's too scared to face me. He doesn't do confrontation well - prefers the easy life - the fucking coward.

I'm going to try to have a nap. I'm exhausted and my eyes are sore from crying.
I am going to contact him later because I want to know who she is and how long it's been going on.
I really don't think I will ever trust another man ever again.

I didn't rush into this with him after the split from my daughters dad. I saw no one else - not even a date - between dickhead1 and dickhead2 and I thought I'd chosen wisely. What a mug.

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MerlinEmrys · 13/05/2017 17:00

I'm impressed at your serenity OP Flowers

dontbesillyhenry · 13/05/2017 17:00

'You stupid lying bitch who's David?' is all that is going through my mind now. Busted- indeed

ColourfulOrangex · 13/05/2017 17:01

Hope all goes as well as it can for you OP you are an extremely strong lady and I hope you get answers from him

smashyourglasses · 13/05/2017 17:02

Agree with BIWI, you'd have had the upper hand by not seeing or speaking to him at all.

GrumpyOldBag · 13/05/2017 17:03

Good luck OP.

In the long run you will be better off without him.

Mrsemcgregor · 13/05/2017 17:03

Oh OP, I have just caught up with everything.

I am so sorry he has put you through this, I hope that at the very least he has the balls to be honest with you now and give you the answers you deserve.

TheGentleMoose · 13/05/2017 17:04

@backscrather - Second though, even if you can't access accounts, don't tell him beforehand and make him access online in front of you - take screen grabs and print so you can work out numbers.

May need to google beforehand to make sure he's not lying to you and saying he can't access accounts when he can.

ShotsFired · 13/05/2017 17:05

Should OP want to check re Tinder etc apps that he has likely deleted off his phone, then syncing it with iTunes (at least, don't know if there is an Android/Windows equivalent) will put them all back on there again.

(unless he thought that far ahead and in which case you could install from a backup...)

But I agree with pp - you have the evidence from the mounting catalogue of facts since you saw the text. is it worth playing Poirot for more?

What a shitty situation and I am so sorry it came out like this for you OP Sad

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/05/2017 17:08

Thinking of you Flowers

BillyButtfuck · 13/05/2017 17:10

I'm glad you made another thread OP, the support you've received so far has been incredible and you are doing so well.
You can and will get through this and you will thank yourself for it in a few years.

You're awesome!

SunshineAndSandyBeaches · 13/05/2017 17:13

Oh op! What a shit time you are having!!! You are being very strong Flowers

glitterglitters · 13/05/2017 17:15

Just wanted to drop in and say well done on confronting him. Big hugs Flowers

TheGentleMoose · 13/05/2017 17:20

@shotsfired - actually unless he's been into itunes and deleted the apps manually they will appear still as long as he's synced them to the account. Good thinking!

Straycatblue · 13/05/2017 17:21

Ive read the original thread and this one.
Is there anyway it could be a misunderstanding, ie there were lies about what he was doing which explains the guilty behaviour, but not another woman.

Could it be that he and some mates wanted to go watch the football at the pub or just go to the pub (from what others have said there was a game last night) and he wanted to go with them rather than go out for your sisters birthday dinner, (either forgot and double booked himself or just preferred to go out with mates and didnt want to tell you hence the lie about overtime)

So he was being arsey the day before because he felt guilty about lying, not because he was meeting another woman but because he was going to the pub with mates.
Could the text from David have been about meeting up to go to the pub, perhaps the martinis was some sort of in joke between them.

So the overtime was a lie but not because of another woman, but because he was going to the pub with mates
His behaviour was odd ie the not answering then answering straight away when he knew you were going to phone his work, because he knew he had lied but not because of another woman.

So then when you confronted him, from his point of view you you are not speaking to him and have thrown him out because he thinks he has been caught in the lie of going to the pub instead of going to your sisters birthday dinner and he is angry and bewildered about the severity of your response.

If you wanted to go on a night out with mates and not get caught out, you might deactivate your fb account in case anyone tagged you or posted photos on your wall of the night out you are not supposed to be on. Or he may have deactivated his account ages ago and you just didnt realise because you rarely use fb.
If you were going to the pub after work you might also take aftershave with you.

Im just saying, there might be other reasons for his behaviour and your past bad experience is colouring things.
Mumsnet also has a habit of whipping things up into a frenzy.

Whatever happens, please try look after yourself OP , get some fluids into you and try eating even if is only small amounts. Is there anyone that could babysit for you tomorrow to give you time to rest?

Theyhaveallbeenused2 · 13/05/2017 17:21

Been watching your threads all day.. be strong

daisychain01 · 13/05/2017 17:22

deleting call history and texts etc doesn't necessarily make you a cheater. I wipe mine regularly and cant bear having old messages cluttering up my in box. its the same as throwing out old letters and cards

That's fine, because you had nothing to hide. With this big black cloud hanging over their relationship, I'd say that deleting call history would speak volumes about his mind-set. Surely if he wanted to quickly resolve the matter once and for all, and give his DP peace of mind, he would show all call history and texts to and from "David" to show there was nothing to worry about.

daisychain01 · 13/05/2017 17:23

As we all know "if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck" it isn't going to suddenly turn into a swan now, is it.

loobyloo1234 · 13/05/2017 17:25

He is such a fucker. Typical cheat though, trying to make out like you're the one being crazy

Just caught up on this thread OP. He doesn't deserve you, he really doesn't ... and I am sorry he didn't choke on his French Martini like I had said last night. A real shame ((hugs))

Queenofthedrivensnow · 13/05/2017 17:28

Hoping the op is ok

TheGrumpySquirrel · 13/05/2017 17:29

Stay strong OP. There really can't be an innocent explanation, I'm sorry. Best case scenario you can find out more proof and kill the fucker get closure.

Hanban16 · 13/05/2017 17:30

Oh OP, I have followed this thread and I am so sorry your going through this. It doesn't add up at all to me. Try not to give too much away when you see him. Stay calm and remember you can lean on us. Regardless of whether he has or hasn't snagged her, he's totally blown your trust. Be brave xxx

FoxTeaParty · 13/05/2017 17:31

I have have been following your threads since you posted and although I have no helpful advice I just wanted to add, along with many others that you are definitely not a mug and stay strong when he comes over. You deserve so much better than how he has treated you Flowers

SouthPole · 13/05/2017 17:32

Grr OP. I am sorry for your troubles at this time.

Just want to echo what everyone else said.

You sound together and intelligent and a proper catch.

You can and will do better than this lowlife.

celebrityskin · 13/05/2017 17:34

Good luck. Don't take any bullshit that he's had all night to concoct xxx

IllBeAtTheSpa · 13/05/2017 17:35

Op I've been following and supporting since your last thread. You are not a mug. You are strong and can get through this Flowers

I really really hope you get the answers you need x

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