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French Martini Bastard

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backscratcher · 13/05/2017 13:54

Hi everyone.
I hadn't realised my first thread had filled up so quickly - I'm completely overwhelmed at how many people have replied to me - and how quickly you have all done it! And thank you to everyone who has inboxed me their support.
It has made me feel less alone.

Not much to update. He hasn't come home. The bags are still outside. He hasn't text or called and I haven't attempted to text or call him.

My sister has just left as she has to go and pick up her kids but she'll be back later. My daughter is with her dad until tomorrow so I have some time to think of what I'm going to do and what I'm going to tell her.

Some more things, which may sound like a drip feed so sorry about that - but to those that have asked if he'd done this before etc - he works only 25 hours a week on a rota basis, so early or late shift. I work full time week days. I earn considerably more than him. We have a joint account and both have our own accounts. I pay in a sum of money each month to the joint account which we can both access. Tenancy is in my name so I fully pay the rent. I know he has a credit card but don't know how much money he has in his own account, or what he owes on credit card.
He works 25 hours a week because he also has a 'hobby' which he is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to turn into a business. On days when he is not working then he will collect my daughter from school so that suits me.
I have never had any reason to doubt that when he was not working that he was anywhere dodgy or doing anything dodgy.

I have been cheated on before but I left him because of how distrustful I became and because I hated the person I had became, sneaking about to check phones and try to access their Facebook - I didn't ever want to be that person again. So I made an effort not to be that person again. I chose to trust.

I've known dp - or rather twatface- for over 4 years - I met him through a friend. He pursued me for a few months and we've properly been together 3 years. He moved in with me just over a year ago. I thought we were happy. I truly thought he loved me and my daughter. We rarely argued and when we did it was never serious really - just about small stuff. We had fun together. Our sex life was good. I felt loved by him. I never felt the need to try to check his phone or to ask him for the passcode or to ask to see his own bank statements or to double check where he was on his days off whilst I was at work. I always believed what he told me.
I feel like I've been taken for a mug - both financially and emotionally. And he was just some fucking cocklodger and he's been caught out and he's too scared to face me. He doesn't do confrontation well - prefers the easy life - the fucking coward.

I'm going to try to have a nap. I'm exhausted and my eyes are sore from crying.
I am going to contact him later because I want to know who she is and how long it's been going on.
I really don't think I will ever trust another man ever again.

I didn't rush into this with him after the split from my daughters dad. I saw no one else - not even a date - between dickhead1 and dickhead2 and I thought I'd chosen wisely. What a mug.

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Marmalade85 · 13/05/2017 15:23

Sorry you're going through this OP. He definitely sounds like a cocklodger. Flowers

CountessYgritte · 13/05/2017 15:23

A shower - thank you Flowers

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 13/05/2017 15:24

I read your other thread and am sorry you are going through this, part deux too.

You really do not need to know who the OW is. That will just be pouring salt in the wound-don't do it to yourself. It just doesn't matter ( unless it may be a girlfriend? ). She now knows he is a cheater and will always have that seed of doubt when he will do it to her too. Serves her right.

You were subsidizing his life and he was using you. Ungrateful bastard. It may not happen today or tomorrow, but imho, you might come to realize the OW has done you a favor.

If you must ask him who she is, frame it so that you want to know who to send the "Thank You!" flower arrangement to.

Otherwise, I agree with ghosting him. The sooner you can draw a line under it, plant it in the past (even if it was literally yesrerday), the sooner you will be able to recover and absolutely thrive again. All other aspects of the relationship ending will just be administrative tasks.

Redecorate your bedroom (new bed linens at a minimum) and move the furniture around. It will help for your sanctuary to not be the same as when he was there. Flowers

CountessYgritte · 13/05/2017 15:24

And Teatowel too. Thank you Flowers

Msqueen33 · 13/05/2017 15:26

You're not a mug at all. There are many good men out there. I'm so sorry this has happened.

NoncommittalToSparkleMotion · 13/05/2017 15:26

The only mugs in this situation is the pair of them. This David is no catch if she's happy being the woman he secretly meets for cheap martinis.

You're strong and better without him Flowers

6demandingchildren · 13/05/2017 15:29

If he was going to watch the footy with work mates he would of not travelled so far out especially not to an eatery next to a travel lodge

happymumof4crazykids · 13/05/2017 15:32

Flowers for you op! It's an awful situation you have found yourself in and I'm glad you have support in RL. I would have thought he would have had the guts to come home and talk to you but it seems he is hiding from you. Hope you're ok :)

Spookle · 13/05/2017 15:34

Followed your last thread and I think you are strong and dignified OP definitely not a mug. I'm sorry you have had to go through this. Wishing you all the best Flowers

faerveren · 13/05/2017 15:34

Quote - OP if you inbox me his name, I can find out who she is for you... x

fudge If I pm you my partners name can you find out who he was with last night? It would take more than a name - are you mystic meg?

I think the OP has had enough upset without some internet stranger digging around her personal life.

MoonfaceAndSilky · 13/05/2017 15:36

If he was going to watch the footy with work mates he would of not travelled so far out especially not to an eatery next to a travel lodge

And he wouldn't need his best aftershave bastard

PyongyangKipperbang · 13/05/2017 15:39

Or more likely Fudge works for Premier Inn..........

Garlicansapphire · 13/05/2017 15:41

Dear OP. You are not a mug, you never will be. Weak disloyal people make you feel so, but they will never have the guts, integrity and courage you have. Remember that.

You will never be to blame for this. Be kind to yourself and know you deserve more.

I totally understand the need to know what happened and who the OW is. When you are betrayed you want to find out everything - otherwise only your sleazy partner and the OW know what really happened to your relationship! Its their secret. But try to build yourself up and find your strength - that is more important in the long run. Your weak and feeble XP will have to collect his stuff soon, or have some contact at some point, so hold these things for a while.

Let yourself cry and be very very angry. This is what will save you - however gut busting and utterly despairing it is - this is what will make you get through it and come out stronger than before. Don't hold any of hurt in - it will make you bitter. One day the sun will shine again, and one day this wont be the first thing that hits you in the morning and makes you sick to the stomach. But it does take time.

Do as others here have advised. Be cold and hard about separating your money from him. Get all the support you can from your sister and friends - RL support really helps. MN helps in the dark times when you don't feel you can call anyone. Many of us have been there too - as you have. Poor sweet you, my heart bleeds for you.

Tomorrow your daughter comes home. That will be daunting - but don't worry it will serve you well. Maybe think through with your sister what you will tell her - make light of it for now as you gather yourself, then be as close to the truth as you can - but age appropriate. I gather she is young so there will be time for her to understand later. But always be truthful.

Although it will feel hard work, looking after her, the routine and love of it will save you and keep you strong. Hold her close. She needs you and you need her. But you dont need any weak and deceitful, man who sponges of you materially or emotionally. He is a waste of space.

Big hugs. x

40somethingwonderful · 13/05/2017 15:42

Bastard. 💐💐

CatThiefKeith · 13/05/2017 15:44

User the Premier League final doesn't exist. Thats not hove the Premiership works, it an accumulation of points.

Really sorry it's turned out this way OP, stay strong. Flowers

ILookedintheWater · 13/05/2017 15:44

OP I'm so sorry that you are going through this. You are being so strong and sticking to what you always said and he always knew would happen.
As for 'ditching work to watch the final with his mates'. There's a really easy way to check that: ask him to hand over his phone and if it's true then all the planning messages including the ones from David will still be there: 'in jokes' and all. If it were true he would have kept them all. If they have been deleted then there can't be a shadow of doubt. Again, so sorry.

MrsMozart · 13/05/2017 15:46

Oh bugger. I don't get why people cheat. If you're not happy, talk. If still not happy, then fuck off, don't do this harm.

Hugs to you lass.

faerveren · 13/05/2017 15:46

PyongyangKipperbang - a possibility but no guarantee his name is on the system - and is it legal to break data protection this way? Fudge said nothing illegal and I think personal details are supposed to be secure and confidential.

I am willing to stand corrected.

gingeristhenewblack43 · 13/05/2017 15:49

Big hugs for you backscratcher.

He is the mug, not you Angry

TheGentleMoose · 13/05/2017 15:49

OP if you inbox me his name, I can find out who she is for you...

Are you checking to see if you are the other woman?? Because there's no way you can find out who he was with otherwise.

ijustwannadance · 13/05/2017 15:50

More likely to be checking google/facebook/whatsap etc. Like they do on catfish.

MadisonAvenue · 13/05/2017 15:50

You're doing incredibly well OP, he's a cowardly bastard.

backscratcher · 13/05/2017 15:52

Pyong - I'd called Premier Inn yesterday. If he was there, then the room wasn't booked under his name.

I've spoken to him on phone. Usual shit from him. He didn't know what I was talking about, he'd stayed out with a friend from work (not called David) because I'd been giving him so much grief for nothing and I can phone him and ask if I don't believe him. A likely story indeed. Plenty of time for them to have concocted a cock and bull story between them.
He is coming round. I have told him I want to see his phone and that I want him to reactivate his Facebook account in front of me and that I will be looking through it. From his messenger, I can see that he has not been active on there since last night, although of course he could have removed everything incriminating at the time of deactivating.

I will see what he is wearing when he gets here and how he is. If on a bender with a mate surely he'd be hungover and stinking of booze. If he'd gone out straight from work then he'd be wearing only the standard t-shirt/jeans that he would normally wear to work, as he gets changed into his overalls there. There's also the question of the missing aftershave.

What else am I missing that I need to ask? I've hardly slept, I'm still shaking, I'm running on adrenaline here. I don't want to see him because I don't want him to see my cry.
But I also am desperate to see him - and that is the part that worries me. After what he's done - there can be no innocent explanation for cruelly leaving me hanging like this when he knows what I was thinking - I should not be desperate to see him. (Unless it's to fuck him over the head with my heaviest frying pan. Which is also tempting).

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Sugarpiehoneyeye · 13/05/2017 15:55

You are not a mug Sweet, far from it, you're an incredibly strong woman.🌸
I found it rather odd, that he didn't come down stairs grinning, when he received that message. I would have expected him to have said to you, 😂 Some bloke called Dave has just sent me a wrong message, saying about French Martinis, as if !
Maybe Dave, actually is Dave.
Thought he would have been home by now bleating, with his tail between his legs, definitely got something to hide.

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 13/05/2017 15:56

I wouldn't see him; but if you need to, remember that his story doesn't make sense.

It wasn't a particularly great game last night and it's been the case for a while that Chelsea would likely win the league if they won. There were no goals until the 83rd minute; plenty of time to text/talk to you. He didn't go to your sisters thing. He took aftershave (for the pub?!) He conveniently had a text about French Martinis... his phone "died" and he deactivated Facebook when he realised you knew something. I'm going to guess he talked to her mostly on Facebook and deactivated the account because he thought he'd left it logged in and you were reading it. It's a quick way to log out all open Facebook sessions.

Stay strong. You're doing amazing.

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