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Anyone up please, just read some of dds texts and horrified

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Shockedandhopeless · 06/05/2017 01:27

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Firstly before anyone slates me dd has some mild additional needs and has a history of doing something really silly on the Internet when younger while at a friend's house on two occasions resulting in a ban and then Internet only where she could be seen hence I still worry about her staying safe given she can access the Internet at school and friends.

She is now 14 and has a phone which she needs due to the journey length she makes and I thought I had educated her enough to give her another chance now she's older although I still randomly check.

Anyway tonight she left her phone open and I thought I would have a quick check given her history and the way she has been behaving out of character recently and I'm horrified.

A couple of months ago a new girl also with some additional needs started at dds school and they became friends and have been texting.

The girl has said stuff about her parents so dd has made up horrible stuff about me and told the other child full on horrible lies.

The girl had put about killing herself so
Dd made up some lie about something I have done as to her reason and said she's going to kill herself because of it.

She's really vile about me in general including completely mocking about me saying I was going to go back to uni.

They are basically being horrible to another girl in school (which makes me furious as dd has been bullied in the past and suffered horribly)

There is some conversation about this other girl giving dd rules that she must stick to and dd asking repeatedly what the rules are.

But the worst is there is some conversation about marks on arms, another friend of dds had been questioned at school about self harming and the new girl had been doing it too.
Dd has I've just discovered been scratching her arm with a compass.

What the hell do I do.

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Shockedandhopeless · 06/05/2017 12:59

I have spoken to her and explained that Sandy, to be honest exh is not a nice person and would have a field day with this.

Apparently the other girl cut herself badly and was showing dd what she had done and why, she told dd that she did it when she had a bad day and so when dd was having a bad day she has scratched herself with the compass. Thankfully lightly.

The girl has also been talking about killing herself hence dd has started saying the same. It is a definate keeping up with the Jones's thing in terms of that.

DD said she did it because she wanted a best friend. She has always struggled socially but just before this girl arrived she had gained some really lovely friends who really looked out for her and she has dumped them for this.

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user1471456357 · 06/05/2017 13:11

FreeNiki
I don't think punishment has any place in a situation like this.

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/05/2017 13:22

Oh no! She dumped her nice friends. Poor kid.

I don't think there should be any punishment either. Taking the phone away should be about keeping her safe.

FritzDonovan · 06/05/2017 14:04

I don't think punishment has any place in a situation like this.
There do need to be consequences though. OP has said she has already spoken to dd, and it's obviously ignored, or not been processed. I don't have the answer, but it appears discussion alone has no results.

user1471456357 · 06/05/2017 15:11

Consequences for what Fritz?

pumpkinmoon1 · 06/05/2017 15:12

It sounds like this new girl is a very bad influence on your daughter. Can you stop her from contacting/speaking to her and tell the school that you want them separated? I'm sorry I don't have any real useful advice about this. Maybe also get her a basic phone like a pp suggested so that she isn't able to download apps or access the Internet.

Ferrisday · 06/05/2017 15:25

A bad influence?!
Do you have no heart?, in a very bad place, I'd say.
Dear Lord, both these girls need help.

SandyY2K · 06/05/2017 16:10

This reminds me a little of a friend my DD has. She was an attention seeker and claimed that she self harmed.

She would take photos of razor blades and tell my DD she was going to cut herself. Then she'd send a picture of a slight cut. Nothing that could cause harm.

My poor DD was besides herself. I heard her crying in her room and she didn't want to say anything initially.
I took her phone and discovered all this.

This was when she was in year 8. The girl was a total attention seeker. I told my DD I was concerned about the way she was talking and would speak to the school about it.

My DD told her on the Monday and she (the friend) wrote me a long message on DDs phone begging me not to say anything and that she's fine and had been in therapy for it.

She said a lot more, but I don't want to say it all here. She was a very cunning girl and she caused a lot of trouble in DDs friendship group.

This is a girl who told my DD and others that her friend died. They were all supporting her and then found out she lied. Very troubled girl.

I don't normally interfere with my DCs friendship choices, but I told her this girl was trouble and the type who would get my DD into trouble and then drop her like a hot brick. She was very streetwise from the things I read that she said to my DD.

Shockedandhopeless · 06/05/2017 17:16

I have had a long chat with dd this afternoon, she stated that the girl has been burning herself and rubbing her skin with scissors until it marked. She said the girl has been on and on at dd about this, telling her that it felt better when she was stressed and did it and when teachers were horrible to her and going on about how much it hurt.

DD who struggles socially and is desperate to have a best friend said that she scratched herself in order to stop the other girl going on and on about it to her and pressuring her about it.

I asked why she said the other stuff, she said that the other girl is going on about how awful her Mum is all the time and threatening to kill herself so she started to say the same.

Given how vulnerable and gulliable dd is I can see this being true. It would seem that she was seperated from her exsisting nice friends.

Not entirely blaming the other child at all, dd was stupid enough to do it too but it is massively out of character especially the being nasty about others, she has always been the victim.

I could be wrong of course and she could still be lying but she absolutely broke down over this.

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Shockedandhopeless · 06/05/2017 17:18

She also that she thought if she did not do it she would be bulltied for it by the girl.

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TatianaLarina · 06/05/2017 17:45

Apart from anything else you need to notify the school about the friend's self harm and suicidal thoughts - they may need to refer her asap, and also, obviously the impact it's having on your dd.

FritzDonovan · 07/05/2017 00:13

user1471456357 consequences for lies and bullying.

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