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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Swinging Into Sobriety!

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Mouseface · 19/04/2017 00:57

Hello there,

I'm Mouse, one of the Brave Babes travelling far and wide, stopping off here and there to collect lovely folk, just like you, for a natter all about booze and the blues that come with being a drinker of whatever quantity.

We don't wear or sell judgey pants here, although a G-string or two (Oooh Matron!) has been known to sort the fan belt out on the Bus as we've been driving for such a long time now!! Grin

In short, we've regular posters here, lurkers, those who have managed to keep their drinking to 'social' occasions, some who are really struggling on an hourly basis and some who are completely dry!

Whatever your drinking 'status', you're welcome here in the new bigger Battle Bus, (as requested) whilst we head far and wide, listening to one another, as we face each day that comes our way, whether it be good, bad or downright ugly, we really have seen it all and don't mind one bit. Lurk or chat, it's up to you but one thing you will always find, is a warm welcome, Opal Fruit wrappers (Looks at Ma bosom push up! ) and of course, in complete confidentiality. Smile

So, if you'd like to look what happened on the last thread (a bit like catch up TV) you can look at this link which will take you there - JUST HERE

And, if you would like to see where we started driving this wonderful Bus, over seven years ago, you can have a look at this very honest thread - RIGHT HERE

Hope to see you soon,

Mouse xx

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dementedma · 29/05/2017 16:23

venus what a kind and thoughtful post. Just picked up your pm by the way. You know seeing it all written down does make me realise I have had a lot on my plate - but then so have so many other babes! but thank you.

DD2 is back - what are the chances of her feet and ankles being "normal" in time for graduation next month? (and aren't they FAB?)

The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Swinging Into Sobriety!
stilllearnin · 29/05/2017 17:02

They are fab. Thank you too Venus - that was ace.

MintToBee · 29/05/2017 17:47

venusandmars
That's a lovely post.

dementedma
Oh wow! Now they are awesome.

Fire lit here after a day of blissful nothingness. Rain stopped all plans and I'm catching up with Paula on iPlayer. I want to watch Handmaid's Tale later. Absolutely loved the book years ago.

runsoncaffeine · 29/05/2017 20:05

Hello all, I've been lurking around alcohol threads for a while and finally (in a post prosecco haze) decided to post.

To the outside world (& my dh and kids) I seem on top of it all but in actually fact I'm only a fun wife and kids after a glass of wine. When I met dh 11 years ago I only had the chance did glass of wine with a meal. I used to run around 60 miles a week some isn't want the faintest hangover. Fast forward 11 years I can't run due to back surgery 4 years ago and sometimes I feel the only way I can cope with with my children's demands is with a 'buzz'.

DH has his own business and works 6 days a week and doesn't see kids in week. I'm a teacher. As its the bank hol and DH was at home I thought I'd treat us to a roast dinner - my excuse for drinking in the kitchen. Usually I stop at one bottle but today I drank 2, ending up with me falling asleep in my toddler's bed.

I don't know how to stop. I want to be that healthy person DH met 11 years ago. It sounds pathetic but I'm scared about being sober on a Sunday as drinking is the only way I fall asleep before teaching Monday.

I'm sorry if I'm bummed people out. I don't even know if I've got the courage to read any replies.

thingscanonlygetbetterrrr · 29/05/2017 20:11

runs welcome aboard. I drink on a Sunday night to 'extend my weekend' because I do a job 99% of people would head for the hills rather than do. Reading what you have posted it sounds like you are drinking to hide from something or to mask a gap you perceive is there. I don't have the answers for you but you are in a safe place to talk xx

runsoncaffeine · 29/05/2017 20:20

I braved to press the refresh button and saw a reply and it made me cry. Not with sadness but just the first time I felt a reach out of support. I've started to feel the thud in my head and although I've said 'I'll cut down this week', I know I'll add 3 bottles of wine to my in line shopping. Just don't know how to change things around. I've been to my GP with all good intentions to admitting how I feel, I chickened out and asked to change contraceptives in the hopes its hormonal!

dementedma · 29/05/2017 20:44

run you are very welcome here. your story is familiar to many of us. no-one will judge you. i promise to cut down every week but never do!
keep talking to us.

theansweris42 · 29/05/2017 21:41

Oh runs please stay. We get it.

madein1995 · 29/05/2017 22:12

Runs hello and welcome, you definitely won’t be judged and we’re a supportive (if bonkers Grin) bunch. Please stay.
A bit up and down today. Am permanently knackered despite sleeping a good 8 hours last night, have worked 55 hours this week which is a bit daft of me. Friend at work told me I looked tired and that I’m always in work, and I do feel uck. Need to carry on.
Now for something that’s shaken me. I met a friend in Tesco a few weeks ago and we had a good natter, agreed to text etc. Now I admit I’ve not texted (due mainly to working 45-55 hrs a week). Today she turned up at my till with her best friend - no love lost between us. Bit of a backstory but basically she was my ‘mentor’ in the nursery job I hated, managed to reduce me to tears a few times (not on purpose but she was quite harsh) and although daft, I was a bit scared of her, to be honest. Well today they came to my till, and I was trying to be light and chatty but her friend was talking to me like a definite employee not like an acquaintance if that makes sense, and that made it a bit awkward. Questioning was the bill right, had I overcharged etc etc, not making much conversation etc, not so much what she said but how she said it. The kind of not horrible customer but definitely awkward, the kind you want to get through asap. My friend said nothing. When I served her she mainly chatted to her friend (ex colleague), not very chatty, quite blunt to be honest and it did hurt. I know it’s daft being so sensitive but it did hurt and I felt like nipping to the loo to have a cry (couldn’t as was busy). Ended up having a co codamol to try and cheer myself up (stupid again) which didn’t work as now I have cramp. I’m ok but just feel a bit down/hurt and still fancy a cry tbh even though I’m sure I’m overreacting. On the plus side swelling on ankle has gone down

Stressedoutmumofone · 29/05/2017 22:40

Can I jump on??

venusandmars · 29/05/2017 22:47

stressed welcome, take a seat, settle in and whenever you're ready tell us what is going on...

Stressedoutmumofone · 29/05/2017 23:40

I want to drink every day. It feels like my reward after putting my ds to bed. Used to be smoking but I quit and now I drink more. It's what I look forward to all day

stilllearnin · 30/05/2017 07:10

made firstly in my opinion, it's ok to cry and it is not an overreaction. Different things upset us at different times. If you are upset, you are upset. Secondly it is possible that your friend was caught off guard and didn't know how to act. And is now feeling terrible or weirded out even. Of course it would have been better if she had chatted to you and taken no notice of your ex mentor. Hopefully I would have done that, but we don't know. It is hurtful though. You're right Flowers

itsmelala · 30/05/2017 07:43

Hey babes, not sure if any of you remember me, it's lala (hope this name change has worked!).

Been lurking and trying to keep up with all of you, and the ups and downs. Just wanted to pop in and say hi, and to tell you that I have been sober since February, as I found out I was pregnant. Currently 19 weeks and fingers crossed all is well. I am not going to lie, I really thought I wouldn't be able to give up the booze (selfish I know), but I stopped as soon as I found out (and had drastically cut down prior to that as I had an inkling I might be.) Had the odd shandy here and there, and had half a glass of champagne when I got engaged to mr lala (!) but other than that, I have been AF. Just wanted to say that it IS possible, and I have never felt better.

I never thought I would be able to say that, looking back six or so months ago when I was easily on two bottles of wine a night, a wreck, anxiety through the roof, living a constant nightmare of lying, hiding bottles/hangovers/arguments I couldn't remember happening, finding any excuse I could to drink etc. It's a full time job being in that situation, let alone actually trying to maintain some sort of life. It's a relief to be out of the self destructive cycle that alcohol brings. So I guess in many ways, this baby has been the saving of me (if that doesn't sound too pious and cheesy).

I love waking up with a clear head, I love being able to go out, walk my dog, spend time with friends and remember it, and being able to actually plan for the future, rather than living from one bottle to the next. Plus I love the fact that my bank account is looking healthy for the first time in years, and don't feel guilty about spending money on nice food/clothes/planning things for the baby. Weird how I would spend goodness knows how much on alcohol and cigarettes (that I have also managed to kick), but would refuse to spend any money on actual things, if that makes sense?

Anyway, I'll stop waffling. Just wanted to say hi, and to say that if I can do it, then there is hope for us all. It's only now that I can admit to myself how bad I was. And although I am not going to lie, there are times I would literally kill for that first delicious sip of a drink, that buzzy feeling that makes you forget everything for a while, that mistaken idea that somehow I am funnier, prettier, smarter etc when I have had a drink... well I guess I have come to terms with that fact that I am just me, and that will have to do. And I am a far far far better person when I am sober, clear headed and with actual plans/ideas that I actually see through, and I like myself far more now, and intend to never return to the state I was in.

So rooting for you all, babes, old and new. It's bloody hard, really bloody hard, but if you can break the cycle then I promise you, it gets easier and easier. And life can be good again. And also, ice cold pink lemonade is really rather lovely.

Lots of love,

Lala x

theansweris42 · 30/05/2017 07:48

stressed and runs I'm the same.
I've found another couple of things I like, one is lying on sofa for an hour with a good programme and focus on it rather than the drink.
The other is getting in bed to read, sober and early and the 'ah' moment as I snuggle up rather than fall in pissed.
I have to make myself have AF days and do these things but on the days I manage it, it's a good day.
The bus is great.
made the tesco friend is either also uncomfortable with the ex colleague or just not very nice. You'll figure out which. Sounds rubbish and I hope you feel better today.
I've had crap sleep and am bloody fed up with drinking. Gah.
Have a good day babes Brew

theansweris42 · 30/05/2017 07:51

I remember you lala congratulations and thanks for your lovely post Flowers

dementedma · 30/05/2017 08:53

welcome stressed come and join us.
run how are you today?
made chin up love and soldier on...ooooh, soldiers....

lala great to see you again and good news on the baby. We do love a new bus baby.
42 happenin?

Got to post and run - laters

Neutrogena · 30/05/2017 09:08

runsoncaffeine - if you have tried to stop by willpower alone and it has not helped, why not see your GP or local alcohol/addiction centre?
I know for myself, I regularly drank more than I intended, and tried to stop/moderate my drinking for years and years, never successfully for more than a week or so.
It's only when I reached out and asked for help that I was able to put down the drink and feel happy about it.
Good luck whatever you decide to do or not do. Don't wait until things get worse. Alcoholism is what I have and it's progressive.

Neutrogena · 30/05/2017 09:11

Congrats Lala - do you think you have stopped drinking forever? When your baby is born, can you see yourself staying teetotal?
Many people stop drinking when pregnant, yet start drinking again after bubba has arrived (maybe after breast-feeding).

stilllearnin · 30/05/2017 10:42

runs just wanted to say welcome and do not worry about bumming us out. We all do happy and sad posts because this bus has no judge or jury Smile

Hmmm how is your body confidence? I don't really mean your looks more your faith in and appreciation of your body? Especially since you've had surgery. This may be a bit deep as a welcomer but I have this inkling that successful health changes come from a love for a physical form rather than the hatred we find so easy to fall into. I find yoga helpful on this. My teacher had serious back surgery 3 years ago. It has supported her greatly. Not sure this helps but if it resonates I am wondering if there is one thing you can do to help your appreciation of your body.

stilllearnin · 30/05/2017 10:43

I mean a small thing btw. I am currently squat obsessed! Grin

itsmelala · 30/05/2017 11:47

Wise words there neutrogena, and in reply I can only hope to god that I never go back to how I was. I don't want to not ever drink again (who does?!) but if that's the only way I can lead a good life and be a good mum, then so be it.

I am not really a believer in AA (apologies to any who it works for, I know it does for masses of people), but there really is truth in the 'one day at a time'. When I first found out I was pregnant, even though I had gone off alcohol (mainly how I knew something was up!), the thought of not drinking for the next 8/9 months terrified me, plus the thought of the fact that alcohol had made me so selfish that I would carry on drinking regardless and damage my baby

. But I went the first evening without a drink, then the second, then the third and so on. And before I knew it, a week had been done. And then two... and so on. I am not trying to suggest it was easy by any stretch of the imagination (restlessness, irritable moods, sleeplessness, etc) even though I had cut down drastically before. But it was easier than I had convinced myself when I was in the grip of two bottles of wine a night. Almost as if I had convinced myself that I could never give up or get out of the cycle.

Once I had proved to myself that I could survive and even shock horror have fun without drinking, it was far less difficult if that makes sense? Plus the feeling of being normal again far outweighed any desire to get blotto every night. Don't get me wrong, there are days when I would love to go and sit in the pub, or open a bottle of wine or three and just lose myself, but as time has gone on, that has become less strong. I do find myself reminding myself that it is 'just for now' but hopefully by the time the baby is here I will be able to have a more of a permanent mindset. I just want to be a good mum, and set a good example, and I know I could never do either if I was to get into old habits.

I don't even mind when other people are drinking around me now, whereas that would have absolutely killed me previously (ironic really, considering it was the drinking that would have been slowly killing me!).

Anyway, waffling on again. Hope you don't mind if I pop in now and again to say hi (this bus has been such a great support in the past) and that I don't come across as some sort of smug smarmy Mcsmug pants. Drinking has cost me countless relationships, two jobs, many friends, a house, two failed stints in rehab and other things that I am too ashamed to admit. Makes me feel a bit sad that it has taken this to make me give up, as if I didn't value myself enough to give it up for, only my child. But now that my head is clear, my eyes are bright, my skin is far better, my face is not bloated and red, my hair is shiny, I don't wake up with panic attacks, bruises and no memory of the night before, my bank balance is healthy, my friends are true, I am finally in a relationship with a lovely guy who doesn't judge me, who helps me rather than puts me down, who works with me, not against me, and I am actually enjoying life, and looking forward to the next chapters (even though I am scared shitless!), I can see that I kind of am worth it. And so are you all. I just wish I hadn't wasted the last decade of my life in a drunken blur or things could have been very different. But in some ways I am glad they are not, but I wish I didn't have so many horrible and deep regrets.

Anyway babes, have a good day, I promise I will stop now (made me a bit emotional typing that!). Remember you are all special people, and you deserve to be happy and healthy and hopeful, even though a lot of you are facing very difficult times and amaze me with your strength. And kick that wine/gin/vodka Bitch where it hurts.

runsoncaffeine · 30/05/2017 12:27

Checking back in. Didn't have the best night's sleep. Kept having weird dreams about getting drunk at parties and people laughing at me. I actually don't get drunk in public or go to parties, I just think the guilt is overwhelming me at the moment. I have drunk a bottle of wine 4 nights in a row and feel rough. I'm going out for a pub tea tomorrow and going to set myself a challenge to have a sober meal.

Lala, that gives me hope. Oddly I only started drinking after children, more so my son who doesn't sleep and is very boisterous. I think I probably (or may still do) post natal depression and using alcohol to self medicate. It can't be right that I have a glass of wine to cope with the kids painting and the mess sends my anxiety sky high!

dementedma · 30/05/2017 18:51

caffeine (can't call you runs, it sounds like a totally different warm, brown liquid), I hardly drank at all before kids. Went up to a bottle a night. So, seven bottles a week!
Still drink too much but probably 4-5 bottles a week.

Dinner at the Castle tomorrow, then gun salute at a different castle on Friday. Got some serious soldier ogling to do this week. If I do get the new job I am SO going to miss working with the Veterans. Sad

runsoncaffeine · 30/05/2017 18:51

still sorry I missed your post to me! Think you've absolutely hit it on the head there. I've always been a perfectionist and as a result spend a lot of my time feeling inadequate. Running gave me a sense of accomplishment which sounds rather sad as I should have other things that give me self worth - my family, my job. I spend a lot of my time feeling like a rubbish mum as 3 days a week I drop kids off at 7 to the childminders and then don't pick them up til 6 & then I don't really interact as given all my energy to the kids at school in the day. Then I also feel a rubbish teacher as working only 3 days I'm trying to cram a full time role into part time hours. In the past a run would balance me, now Inturn to wine to relax but now I don't enjoy it as much as I used to.

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