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Dark family secret. Do I tell her?

91 replies

mojitosbythesea · 19/03/2017 17:01

What do you do when you’ve been sworn to secrecy about something pretty horrific in the family, but it’s messing up your head? I feel like I might explode if I don’t talk to the only person who will understand exactly how I feel. My sister.

For lots of reasons, this has all recently resurfaced and I’m finding it a real struggle. How can I sit there and listen to all these ‘lovely’ stories about someone I now hate? Someone I wish I had no biological ties to. I am ashamed to have had them in my family. It kills me.

My therapist thinks I should tell her, as keeping it to myself is hindering my recovery (I suffer with depression and anxiety).

The thing is though, morally, is it ever ok to break a promise?… What will she gain from knowing what I know? What will I gain?

OP posts:
Penfold007 · 20/03/2017 07:52

You need to give a lot of thought to how burdening your sister with this information will affect her, help (?) you and impact on your relationship with your sister and your mother.
I'm presuming your DM has asked you to keep the secret. In a perfect world she shouldn't have done this but she has. Does telling your sister help her or DM and will it ultimately help you?

AliceByTheMoon · 20/03/2017 07:53

Why did your mother tell you? Do you know? I think it was unfair of her to burden you like this.

Holly3434 · 20/03/2017 07:53

So your therapist wants another clients soon you to be selfish offload to save yourself and mess up someone else. It's been 20 years and your sister doesn't know leave sleeping dogs lie.

Nanna50 · 20/03/2017 07:58

I have three family secrets, yes three, and I will never tell. There are a few reasons that I wont tell;
No one is at risk and the past cannot be changed. It is not affecting my relationships with anyone close to me but it might if I tell them because I am unsure how they would react or how the would deal with it. Yes I have secrets from them but I can live with that as I don't want another person to feel like I do, If they don't know it cant hurt them.

Also how will I react if I find out they knew and didn't tell me, will that just stir up negative feelings inside of me? My mother always told me (not connected) that if you cant keep a secret yourself then don't expect anyone else to keep that secret for you. What if I tell them and they decide they want to do something about one of the secrets, or tell others, how will that affect me?
I can't think of any reason to tell them other than it may ease my burden and I have had to find other outlets to do this. I have had treatment and my secrets remained between myself and the professional who helped me.

MrsTwix · 20/03/2017 08:01

I'm confused about something in your OP.

Have you told your therapist what the secret is?

Does your therapist want you to tell "her" meaning the therapist or "her" meaning your sister?

I think you should tell the therapist, to me that doesn't count as breaking the secret. Without knowing the secret I don't know if you should tell your sister or not.

sick0fmykids · 20/03/2017 08:01

I'd say your mum half expects you to tell your sister.

Why should you carry the burden alone. You need your sister to have the same interpretation of your family history as you do.

Ask her, ''if I knew something about granddad and I was asked not to tell you but the weight of not sharing it with you is enormous, would you want me to tell you even though it's not going to be something you're glad you know''

Justanothergame · 20/03/2017 08:02

Some secrets may not be yours to tell, for example if your sister had an abortion years earlier or your aunts husband had an affair. These secrets largely affect just those people. However if it's a secret like abuse or alcoholism, these impact on the whole wider family. These secrets eat away at family bonds. If your mother wanted that to remain a secret, she really should not have told anyone. It's not fair to burden you with it.

MadMags · 20/03/2017 08:05

I'm guessing this is about abuse. Of course if I'm way off I'm sorry.

picklemepopcorn · 20/03/2017 08:05

It sounds as though the problem is having to listen to conversations that you don't agree with and don't want to be complicit in, in a way. Can you stop those conversations? Say 'I'm sorry, I don't want to talk about X. Say to DSis that you don't feel the same way about X and won't stay in the room. Or just leave the room without saying anything?

Or tell the person that you promised that the burden is becoming unbearable and you need to share it now. Ask her to tell DSis. DSis may not need the whole story, just enough to understand.

MadMags · 20/03/2017 08:06

Sorry! Posted too soon.

If it is, and somehow your dsis would gain explanations or even a little more understanding of something then it might benefit her to know.

I don't envy you. Horrible position to be in.

Isadora2007 · 20/03/2017 08:11

Can you ask your mum? I know it might seem awful to bring it up with her but she isn't likely to have forgotten. You can explain the effect it is having on you and how you feel you need to share that burden. She may step up and be helpful...
While I can see your counsellors point, I wonder if it really will help your MH telling your sister. Or could you be facing guilt for upsetting her if it has a similar effect on her life? Guilt and regret can equally bring on or deepen depression and anxiety.
I would use the counselling sessions to explore the options fully "if I do x then y and z will happen... if I do a then b and c could happen" and so on. In doing so, you may uncover what it is you hope to achieve through telling and there may be other solutions.
One suggestion here on a PP which was good is can you tell your sister that the relative wasn't all they seem and you'd prefer him not to be spoken about glowingly. If your sister wants to know more you can warn her that it's not nice to hear and let her choose.

ChasedByBees · 20/03/2017 08:12

I'm guessing this is abuse of your mother. I do feel that it's your mothers choice about who to share that information with. If you need to talk about it, can you try working through it with your therapist or your mother?

If you tell your sister, your mother could feel very betrayed and your sister will feel lied to by her mother by omission. This could really damage all your relationships more than the secret itself.

Nospringflower · 20/03/2017 08:19

I guess I am wondering in what way your therapist thinks you should tell her. I would imagine that with most therapists you would work out what the benefits of telling / not telling would be versus the negatives, for both you, your sister and anyone else affected by the decision. You would then use that information to help you make the decision about what is best. Have you been able to do that?

Holly3434 · 20/03/2017 08:25

The biggest issue here is the person has died a very long time ago, your sister will not be able to ask any questions from the other person or get answers, only your version. This could be seen as speaking ill of the dead by your sister, ruin a family and your therapist walks away care free. Don't always trust their advice

dowhatnow · 20/03/2017 08:29

It's not your secret to tell if it affected your mother and will have consequences for her - however you can ask her if you can tell your sister and why you want to. Perhaps talking about it again with your mum will unbottle it and help, rather than keeping it buried and affecting you.

TSSDNCOP · 20/03/2017 08:34

Would telling your sister to unburden yourself simply shift the burden to her in a misery loves company way?

I also think it depends on the nature of the secret. Given Grandad is dead will it help anyone to know what he did? If say he were a war criminal or mobster would it help anyone else to know that?

BakeOffBiscuits · 20/03/2017 08:37

Your mum knows, can't you talk to her about it?

Why do you want to tell your sister?

MiddleClassProblem · 20/03/2017 08:42

I agree, I would talk about how you feel with your mum. The only reason I could see not to is that if she's the victim and doesn't want to talk about it in which case she'll be feeling a shit of a lot worse than you do about it.

Maybe you could write a letter "to your grandad" aiding how you feel about it all and then burn it when you're ready.

contrary13 · 20/03/2017 08:55

In my family, we have a policy on not keeping secrets - because of a similar situation to that which you've hinted at, OP.

My mother unburdened herself to me, when I was a young teenager, about her stepfather having sexually abused her. Even as she was telling me the sordid details, I chose not to burden her with the fact that her brother-in-law had sexually abused me as a young child (although my grandmother, his mother, knew and did her best to protect me - without telling anyone else about it). I regret not having done so, now. However, the fact remains that my mother's claims about my grandfather were horrific enough that I never felt comfortable around him, again. To this day, I don't know if she told me the truth that day (and there is a distinct possibility that she wasn't being honest), but it placed a niggle of doubt in my mind. It also made me question why, if he had abused her as a young child, she had left me in his sole care for weeks at a time when I was growing up?

Her unburdening resulted in my relationship with my grandfather being permanently destroyed (and I idolised him as a child) because I found myself sifting through previously fond memories and wondering if there was something dodgy about his behaviour towards me (I know that he didn't abuse me, but for a while, I did find myself wondering)... but it also severed another strand of my relationship with her. Why? Because I knew, even as a young child, that I would never leave my children alone with my father's brother, for fear of his abusing them as he abused me. Consequently, when I became a mother, I kept him away from my family. He met my DD once, at a close family member's funeral, when she was a toddler, was never left in a room alone with her, and that was the last time that we saw him. My children know that I was abused by someone as a child, but they don't need to know who by (he is dead). It's enough that they are aware of the fact that this is why we don't keep secrets in our family.

I doubt I will ever forgive my mother for unburdening herself on me. I spent every single summer holiday with him as my primary carer and he was the only family member brave enough to stand up to my mother on my behalf for years. All those memories of my childhood have been tainted. Remain tainted. Even now, when I think back to sitting upon his knee as he read to me... I wonder if there was something untoward in the way he held me securely upon his lap.

If your grandfather has been dead for 20 years, and your mother's unburdening of herself to you has caused you to feel similarly to the way I do...? Don't tell your sister. Tell your friends, tell your therapist, tell your partner (if you have one). But telling your sister will only cause her to feel the same confusion and pain that you do right now - and I don't think that you want that for her, which is why you haven't already told her your mother's secret.

And, as a previous poster asked... why did your mother unburden herself to you and not to your sister? That might be worth discussing with your therapist in and of itself. Does your mother have a habit of trying to cause fissures in your relationship with your sibling(s)? Might her unburdening of herself to you not have been the truth?

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VestalVirgin · 20/03/2017 09:28

What does "sworn to secrecy" mean here?

If she told you and then put pressure on you to promise to never tell anyone, I'd say the promise is void.

If you agreed to not tell anyone before hearing it, well, you have some moral obligation, but I'd still prioritize your sanity.

But you should talk to her about it, and make it clear you want the secret out. Perhaps you can get out of this without breaking a promise.

NewZ · 20/03/2017 09:29

contrary Thanks

I nc for this.

The night before my wedding my mother chose to unburden herself and to tell me that she had been sexually abused by her father (who also died about 20 years ago). She swore me to secrecy. That secret explained quite alot of her behaviour over the years, but to be honest the impact on me was (is) pretty dreadful. I was also sworn to secrecy and it is now many years later, and I have never told anyone. I do not really understand why my mother chose to unburden herself to me, her child, rather than to a counsellor. I feel it was unfair of her to swear me to secrecy. I feel selfish saying that, but that it how I feel.

I do not know what I am trying to say except that please look to why you want to tell your sister. As someone said up thread - does her ignorance of the matter hurt her in any way? If so, then maybe tell her. But if the reason you want to tell her is to alleviate some of the pain you are feeling then maybe you need to work through that a bit more, and tell your partner, a friend etc.

Lottylovesbread · 20/03/2017 09:34

Obviously we don't know the secret but why would your therapist tell you to tell your sister unless it will make your relationship with her better? Otherwise she might end up in therapy herself.

Onecutefox · 20/03/2017 11:12

Depends on the secret really. Why do you have to suffer all these years? It is not like you had asked to tell you the secret.

mojitosbythesea · 20/03/2017 12:53

Fairly split opinions.

My mum told me after a few glasses of wine. I think she regretted telling me, so it's not like she chose to tell me rather than my sister. I think had my sister been there that day, she would have told her instead.

It's quite complicated. My grandma was physically and sexually abused by my grandad. My sister definitely know he hit her, but I'm not sure about the sexual abuse. This is something I've known for quite a long time though.

The thing I know my sister doesn't know, is that when my mum was a teenager, he was also very inappropriate with her. Not rape, but it was definite sexual abuse. He did rape my grandma regularly. My mum and her brother knew this, but what disturbs me even more is that they still talk about him like he was just a bit of 'a one... a character '. I want to stand up and shout, 'no, he was a raping bastard!' But I don't. I have recently said I don't feel comfortable hearing everyday 'funny' stories about him anymore. I no longer see him as my grandad.

The other side is that I now wonder if anything happened to me, or my sister. I remember him deliberately scaring me a lot. I remember sitting on his knee, which now makes me shudder, as I know the sordid details of how he abused my mum. Why did she allow him in a room alone with me and or my sister?!

Will post more, but want to send this in case it gets wiped again.

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AliceByTheMoon · 20/03/2017 12:59

I think you are well within your rights to say to your mother and uncle that you do not want to hear his being mentioned in your presence.

I've said similar to my own mother about her violent abusive family. She will ring me to wail about what they have said or done and their behaviour(there is significant levels of abuse in the past there too) and I finally said to her that if she wanted to stay in communication with them that was her business, but to not speak of them to me again.

It upset my mother who likes to pretend we are all happy families, but on the whole she has mostly respected that.

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