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Impartial opinions wanted

65 replies

Sailingfreak · 22/02/2017 13:02

I would really appreciate some opinions on a situation I am in with my husband. So I am 46 and after twenty years together, over the past eighteen months we have been slowly moving towards a separation. He has declared that he is no longer 'in love' with me (although he does love me), the attraction has gone and we haven't had sex in almost a year. I have accepted all this - although I'm sad, and would be prepared to work on it, I can't do it alone. He is unwilling to try to make things work, won't do counselling or anything. He feels it's impossible to get that initial attraction back. And I know he is keen to have other relationships.
So the issue is that we have two lovely DSs in their teens. They are going to be completely devastated by the news that we're separating. To avoid this, my husband is suggesting that we should not tell them the truth until they have left home, and keep things looking normal until then. That's five years away in our younger DS's case. In the meantime, we would both be free to have other relationships, but keep them secret obviously, and we would both accept our relationship is over and co-exist as friends/co-parents.
I can't get my head around this. On one hand I would go a long way to avoid hurting my DSs. On the other, I don't think I can spend the next five years pretending to our kids and the world in general that everything's fine while dying a slow emotional death inside. I don't think I'm capable of having secret relationships outside our marriage as he seems to feel he is. I don't know if I can carry on hiding my feelings from my children.
Has anyone been in a similar situation? Would really appreciate thoughts on this...

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Pitchforktotheface · 22/02/2017 19:41

I was your teenage sons. It didn't work. I wasn't blind, deaf or stupid.

Just split up. Make it clear to your sons it was no ones fault. Attend parents evenings, graduations, birthdays together, don't let them play you off against each other, let them chose who they stay with and when but encourage a good relationship with the other.

If you do as he suggests your children will find out, they will feel betrayed.

FritzDonovan · 22/02/2017 19:59

Can't believe the nerve of him. It's been said before, but he's really taking advantage of you, wanting you to run the mundane side of life while he's looking around for someone to shag.
I really feel for you, that you are still cuddly, and sharing a before with this selfish git. As for having to tell the kids...yes, it may be hard. But this was his decision. So his responsibility. Just wait the 2 months for exams ( while not still acting the loving wife to an undeserving arse) and make sure you are there so he has to tell it truthfully. Flowers Meanwhile, stop making his life so easy! You won't respect yourself for it later when you find out he's already got his eye on someone, if he's not seeing her already. Check that phone and don't be a mug. (Although if he's reasonably intelligent there will be nothing there anyway..)

ChristinaParsons · 22/02/2017 21:09

My ex wanted this
I threw him out
The other woman soon emerged
Children see through everything
My youngest came out the other side with 12 A* and A GCSEs
They are resilient and stronger than you think

jayho · 22/02/2017 21:27

Don't do it. You will be giving him a cake to eat and you will end up the bad person.

He definitely has someone else and is seeking your approval to ease his passage.

Why should you pick up all the slack, parenting week after week, while he swans in at weekends to be Disney dad?

DarklyDreamingDexter · 22/02/2017 22:17

Certainly wait until after the exams to tell the children, then an honest discussion. You surely can't live a lie until the youngest leaves school?

Sailingfreak · 22/02/2017 22:23

Thanks so much everyone - all your opinions have been very useful and made me stronger and more resolved. It's particularly encouraging to hear you think separation won't be the end of the world for the kids. So I'm on a countdown, 2 months till exams over and then we deal with it. Thank you.

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springydaffs · 22/02/2017 22:36

As pp's are saying, choosing when they leave home to go to uni to tell him is the very worst idea. It is the crappest time in the world to land it on them. They will have newly left home, on wobbly bambi legs, and their family falls apart the minute their backs are turned. How to make a basket case of a young adult.

Aside from that, I have to agree he's already playing away - or planning to. He has done a horrible number on you. Don't forget this is his doing, not yours. You don't deserve that in any shape or form.

Not a nice man. Get this done after the exams. Get everything lined up first so you're ready to launch. As others are saying, plenty of their friends will have divorced parents. That's not to say it won't be painful for them but it needn't be catastrophic. You just have to be brave and bite the bullet. Don't forget this isn't your doing Flowers

springydaffs · 22/02/2017 22:37

*to tell them

clumsyduck · 22/02/2017 22:44

You can basically cut that all down to

"I want to shag about can I please have your permission "

Sorry op I would no way go along with this

FatOldBag · 22/02/2017 22:47

Horrible suggestion. He wants you to iron his pants and be a housekeeper/childcarer for him while he swans about shagging around. Fuck right off! You both need to move on, pretending will help nobody. Flowers

Welshmamma · 22/02/2017 22:47

Selfish man!!! And your kids would most certainly sense something! Kids really do pick up on this sort of thing!
Tell him that is not happening and he can go and sleep with whoever he wants once he has moved out! Don't you move out and get yourself to a good solicitor!! X

Welshmamma · 22/02/2017 22:56

And your kids will adjust! As long as they still have their parents actively involved in their lives they will adjust quickly x of course it's a shock initially. Once they see that you are still mum and dad they will settle and will need lots of love and reassurance from you both x My parents were divorced and I am divorced and my experiences helped me make things easier for my own children x
Be open and honest but don't let the kids become weapons x good luck x

IwasAM · 22/02/2017 23:08

I don't know your 'D'H OP but I am raging for you just reading thisAngry

NO 20+ year relationship still has that 'spark' of the first lust filled few years but that doesn't stop people staying married or make the relationship any less valuable (arguably the opposite as it's by then built on so so much more). He doesn't want to be married anymore. End of. And he's already checked out or else he would - y'know, on account of 'loving youHmm and being concerned for his sonsAngry - more than want to go to counselling et al and work on his marriage as thousands of other people choose to do.

He's choosing not to, not only as he has already very clearly checked out and is presenting this as a done deal to you, but also highly likely that's he's already 'checked in' elsewhere - sorry, but that really is the most likely bottom line.

I agree with waiting until exam are over but after that just be honest with your kids, and honest means answering their inevitable questions honestly - not lying to them in a false attempt at protecting with them which, for your lovely husband, also gifts him a guilt free pass out.

Get your ducks in a row, start counselling yourself (Relate will see you alone) to help you both prepare and to get through it, but please don't waste your time on this selfish arse and his issues. Focus on you and DS's, they will cope in time I promise you but they very def will not if they are strung along for years.

Am so so Angry on your behalf that this creature thinks so very little of you and patently so much of himself. Utter wankstain.

SleepingTiger · 22/02/2017 23:24

FATHER: Mid-life crisis. I want to prove I've still got it in me. Shit, I don't want to pay the price, cause an upset, lose my upstanding character that I have achieved over the last few years. But I want to sow my oats (with contraception of course) and have one big shagfest In the autumn of my life. I deserve it. But I will tell my wife "hey love, I love you but I am not in love with you, but it's not my fault. Time, kids, work, pressure etc, etc. Even so, let's not upset the kids eh? Look, you do your things and I will do mine, let's keep the house going, stay together. It makes sense....". He, he, I think I pull this dirty, sordid little sex on the side thing off.....grin.

Roll on 25 years....

SON: Mid-life crisis. I want to prove I've still got it in me....blah, blah, blah......etc ad infinitum.

It's not ok to accept this. Not every man needs to act on their mid-life crisis.

Jayfee · 23/02/2017 08:57

I rarely side with the people who jump to conclusions, but in this situation it would not surprise me to find he had already started a relationship. I would sit the two children down and tell them

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