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I still hate the bitch.....

68 replies

housewifedesperate · 20/02/2017 22:33

The stupid little cunt that was the other woman.
Why? I want this hatred to go.....I know she's undeserving of my emotions but I can't help it.
Just when I think she can do no more, she does. She's been a cunt to me and a cunt to my children.
I don't know what I want from this message but just wanted to vent. How can people be so evil.
Btw, I know my ex h is also a cunt, he just doesn't seem to revel quite as much in the drama as his dumb girl friend

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housewifedesperate · 20/02/2017 23:26

Thanks sole....hope so. I really want to but I'm not sure what's stopping me.
The divorce went through about a month ago and now we're having to move because of the financial order so maybe that's brought issues back to the fore again. That as well as the social media stuff I mentioned. When I'm strong and doing OK, I can just ignore her crap.

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F1GI · 20/02/2017 23:27

the thing is that it's difficult to "forget" or "get over it" because every single day you are reiminded of it as you have kids with him and all the little things serve as a reminder
if it was a breakup and it was just you and a partner, you could make a clean break but here you can't and that's why it's so tough
i do think that pepople who are complicit in family wrecking are one of two things a) very naive and aren't really aware of what the full fall out will be or b) selfish arrogant evil people who do not care about crapping on others' lives or perhaps c) just completely deluded

NoMudNoLotus · 20/02/2017 23:27

I feel just the same OP.

I actually never experienced "hate" untill OW entered my life.

It's been three years & I still hate her with a vengeance .

If I could take revenge I would. I would love to cause trouble for her - and iv fantasised about sending hate mail ... all sorts of things.

This is 1 thing in my life that won't fade.

You have my empathy .

F1GI · 20/02/2017 23:27

i realise I put 3 things Grin

F1GI · 20/02/2017 23:28

but remember the best revenge is living well

housewifedesperate · 20/02/2017 23:29

Oh no mud I'm sorry. People saying to get over it just don't get it do they?
I'm a reasonable person but given the chance I'd lay into her. I think she deserves it.

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housewifedesperate · 20/02/2017 23:31

I'm trying to live well believe me.....
I know we're better off without them. I just feel really sorry for my children because they're lumbered with this forever (and so am I to a certain extent) she's been a bitch to them.

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jeaux90 · 20/02/2017 23:32

Jesus wept!!! I hope the daily fail isn't reading this thread.

housewifedesperate · 20/02/2017 23:33

That paper can go fuck off

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NoMudNoLotus · 20/02/2017 23:34

House it's just very difficult to explain to people isn't it I'm a very gentle peace loving person so these feelings are so alien to me !

In my situation OW lived in another county ... not only did she take my husband , but suggested to him that he sell our house , I could go into council accommodation and that our children could move in with them !

She literally tried to take everything away from me .

I can't understand how a woman can do that to another woman .

housewifedesperate · 20/02/2017 23:36

Nomud, maybe a bit of a sociopath.
My ow had a disturbed past as did the ex h (think it's one of the things that attracted them to eachother)
In some ways I could feel sorry for her but she's still a horrible bitch.

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normastits5 · 20/02/2017 23:40

Look here op, you are right she is a proper cunt make no mistake. She will suffer for everything she has put you through but it takes time. There are things that you can do to make your lives easier, top of the list is to inform everyone who knows you that under no circumstances are they to update you about her. As soon as they start with the updates you cut them off saying no I'm not interested, next subject. Constantly hearing about her is making this worse so cut off the sources if you have to but make it stop. Good luck op & give her a dig from me if you ever get the chance.......... joking MN

Ellie56 · 20/02/2017 23:44

The counselling will help you deal with the hatred.

But I agree she is an evil bitch.

housewifedesperate · 20/02/2017 23:46

Good advice norma. Have tried to tell people I'm not interested in hearing but it still seems to filter through to me.

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anxiousnow · 20/02/2017 23:51

She is a cunt. They both are. Although cheated on spouses initiallytend to wonder what OW/OM has that they don't, how they are better. Hopefully most realise that this isn't true. The very fact that she was part of an affair proves how vile she is, and now the SM and treatment of you and your kids. Let her carry on her insecure charade. She obviously isn't truly happy as wouldn't need to do it otherwise.
Sorry you are having to move. Tell your friends that the move is a line under it and that means no more gossip filtering back to you. Hope move goes well and you and your DC's are very happy in your new home.

pimmsy · 20/02/2017 23:56

I have nothing to offer except perhaps a french swear words to name her with

Pétasse (P like with "pierce" in english and then "Tar" than a very long ssss sound)

I find it a very satisfying insult.

If not ... Pauvre Salope! Pauvre conne! also sounds good.

Take care of yourself housewife.

housewifedesperate · 20/02/2017 23:59

Thanks, like the insults...I will practice!
Also realise I need to change my name, I'm very far from being a house wife.

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Wdigin2this · 21/02/2017 00:02

Gawd....why do some people always need drama in their lives? Ignoreing her is the best way of dealing with this, I know it's probably not easy, but she'll get bored without an audience!

ThatsPlenty · 21/02/2017 00:39

Oh housewife, I soooo get where you're coming from. 5years later and I still despise OW. I've moved on, been with DP 4years, my ex has left OW and is in another relationship. I will never forget what that nasty evil bitch put me through while they were together.

I used to tell myself that at least I didn't know he was a nasty cheating scumbag but she DID. How insecure these OW must feel knowing their men could dump them at any time (and vice versa). These relationships are fraught with insecurity and paranoia. Hell mend them.

As a previous poster said, how can another woman do that to another woman, especially do it when there's children involved.

Italiangreyhound · 21/02/2017 01:13

housewifedesperate I am sorry you are going through this.

I think you have hit the nail on the head with the idea that they are both in some way damaged people and are drawn to each other for that.

You are definitely better off without him, and it is important (I think) to say that he may have left you for someone else, if it was not her. So although you are right to feel angry, you don't know it is exactly her fault, because your ex was the one who made the promises to you. Not her.

How has she been bad to your kids? Is it things you can bring up with your ex? Is it financial or physical or nasty words, or manipulation.

Maybe try and work out how to neutralize it and its power over the kids. rather than 'wasting' time being angry with her. I know it is easy to say, but turn that anger into some good action.

Ultimately, if the kids are teenagers, they will choose one day if they wish to see/visit with dad, see the other women, see dad without the other women or maybe potentially not see him at all because of her!

This needs to be their choice and you can support them in this. Before it gets to this stage your ex should exert some influence over this women and ensure she is civil and fair with his kids. It is very sad he cannot see what this has done to them. He sounds really selfish and immature, he is a father he should be protecting them and advocating for them.

Does he know what his girlfriend has done to the kids?

Italiangreyhound · 21/02/2017 01:14

Great advice from Norma and the others.

Italiangreyhound · 21/02/2017 01:20

I think if you can manage it, make a real push for victory over your own anger with this new counselling. I'm having counselling (for an unrelated issue to yours, but also through work) and I find it really helps to commit to the process, be honest and open and I now find I really enjoy my time with the counselor, who is lovely and not easily shocked - not that i have much shocking to say!

It's almost impossible to not think of something when the idea is in your head. Like the old don't think of a blue elephant! All you can see is a blue elephant. Can you switch it up a bit and think of a green elephant, and then a green tree, and so move yourself away from the anger towards her? The anger is only damaging you, not her, she seems to love it!

I think it is also really hard to just change your thinking. It may help to change other things too, take up a new hobby or sport, even something small like going for an hour long swim once a week.

The change in activity might help you to change your thoughts.

Lastly, I am furious on your behalf that either friends or family pass on news you do not want to hear!

"other people tell me what she's been up to whether I want to know or not."

Just get into the habit of saying clearly and plainly "Don't talk to me about XX I don't want to know."

If you are standing up just walk away as they are talking. Maybe a "Didn't you hear me?" Then rinse and repeat.

If you are sitting down then stand up, go to the loo, go to the bar, go and make a coffee, whatever you want (depending where you are).

If they really will not shut up I'd say. "The fact you want to tell me all about XX when I've said not to suggests you are a bit hard of hearing today, so I'll speak to you later when the wax is gone!"

You can cut out of your life anyone who doesn't want to listen to. Because ultimately their choice to tell you this stuff shows they do not respect you. Spell it out for them, I won't stand here and listen to news of XX.

"I think she is jealous but more than that, she's immature and loves the drama. I think she loved the fact she 'stole' my partner away from me and can't help trying to get mileage out of it."

The trouble is every time you get upset and talk about her to friends etc, which may or may not get back to her, moan about her (if you do) to your ex, which will almost certainly get back to her; you are feeding that bit of her that loves drama. You are reminding her how important she is (how clever she is) that she has done all this!

Of course she is not clever, or important, and I don't think it is all down to her. But your anger and hatred may well fuel her feelings of loving the drama.

"I know she's sad. I just don't understand people like that." No, me neither, I'd rather be kind than cruel. Maybe she has had a very shit time of it, and maybe she will have more of a shit time in future as there are no guarantee your ex won't do to her what he did to you.

If you can find it in your heart, just feel sorry for her; you got out, she is still stuck there with him.

Just make sure you protect the kids, protect yourself and make the very best of your new home, a new start, focus, focus, focus on you, the kids, and the future - not on anyone or anything else.

[hugs] Thanks XXX

housewifedesperate · 21/02/2017 06:20

Italiangreyhound, you're a wonder and give lovely, compassionate advice.
I tried in the early days to intervene with the ex h and the children. It's been a long time since I decided that I can't do anything with a person who refuses to listen.
They're teenagers and have chosen. My oldest has said she can't wait until she's 18 (just over a year) when she can choose to not see him at all. Neither acknowledged a recent birthday of his. I do find it really sad actually.
I have to remember that he's done this by choosing to support her over them.
There has been individual incidents where she's upset them and he's taken their side. He also tried to blend them too soon when they were just wanting time with him on their own.
I think the damage has been done.

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SandyY2K · 21/02/2017 07:43

Your Ex has lost the respect of his children through his poor decision to commit adultery and I know you hate her, but if their own father doesn't have them as his priority, then how would a shameless sidepiece of a woman who has no qualms or guilt for fu*ing a MM care?

He brought her into your lives and he's the one who caused this devastation.

She's far from blameless and it's easy to hate the 'other', because you share a lot of history and good memories with your Ex, but this is all his fault.

A friend of mine was the child in your DDs position and she choose her brother to walk her down the aisle when she got married. Her dad was gutted, but he lost her respect when he left her DM and the 4 DC.

housewifedesperate · 21/02/2017 09:20

Yep, you're right sandy. I just don't like the fact she still seems to try and milk the drama out of the situation with her actions.
Agreed, he's totally at fault for apparently losing his daughters.

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