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Struggling with guilt so I wrote a list........

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pudding21 · 20/02/2017 16:46

My exOH has really done a number on me. I love him, I always will, 21 years and 2 DC's but emotionally and verbally abusive increasing in severity in the last 3 years. I feel guilty as he says he has nothing and he adores me and he is heartbroken. I feel like a shell of my formal self, and I know I need to work on myself a lot. Even after typing the list, I still feel GUILTY! My sister told me to write a list today so here it is. I am posting it so I can refer to it when I wobble again.

  1. Constant competition about who does more (I work FT, take a lot of the childcare pre and post work and weekends, cook, shop, taxi the kids around, he was a SAHD), the kids are now with me most of the time)
  2. Making me feel guilty if I spend any of my precious time with anyone but him.
  3. Constant critisism: innocuous , passive aggressive, daily comments.
  4. Jekyll and Hyde: not knowing what kind of mood he would be in. Eggshells.
  5. The constant comments have made me anxious about almost every action I do because he has questioned my motives : putting lipstick on, making dinner and making any kind of mess, stacking the dishwasher wrong, using my phone...the list goes on and on.
  6. Not feeling in the slightest bit appreciated, its all about hard life is on you. This is a kicker because he hasn't once tried to find work since we relocated overseas and have been quite content for me to push and find work. If he was happy in the role, I wouldn't give a shit.
  7. Having to modify my parenting style (I'm more relaxed, he is like a sergant major).
  8. Anytime we leave the house is always accompanied by stressing/ shouting etc
  9. Not believing me if I say I am tired or feel unwell.
10. His needs always trumped mine. 11. Talking over me, putting down my opinions. Teeling me I wear rose tinted glasses. 12. Dismissing any ideas over bettering myself as "wellness bullshit" 13. Feeling uncomfortable in my own home (inviting people over etc was a very rare occurance). 14. Feeling guilty about going to the gym (which he never wanted to me to join) or going out in general. 15. Feeling like I cannot be close to my family as his is so dysfunctional 16. Drinking to excess. 4 month driving ban earlier in the year, but continues to drink drive. 17. Showing the boys how disappointed he is in them when they are just being kids. 18. Attacking me or the boys personally in an argument. eg. you ALWAYS do this, look at your face blah blah blah. 19. Calling me a cunt, spitting at me, hands round my throat, and to fuck off repeatedly in front of the boys. 20. Projecting your lack of self worth onto me. 21. Rarely complimenting me, now I have left he has said nicer things to me than you have in the last 3 years put together. I've been gone a week. 22. Never giving a reason to doubt my faithfullness, but he still never trusted me implicitly. 23. Everything is always about him, passive aggressive ways of getting his own way. 24. I always did things to make him happy, not me. In the hope he would be in a good mood. 25. Lack of ambition and drive, leaving me to solve everything. 26. No affection outside the bedroom. Literally none. 27. Accusing me of making up reasons not to have sex (We did, at least 3 times a week so he wasn't not getting any, I have had ongoing issues with the coil) but refusal for him to wear condoms. 28. No desire to see me grow or better myself. 29. Miserable and negative about everything, always a pessimist. 30. Twisting what I say or forgetting whole conversations. 31. Making me feel guilty when I travel with work (or if I call home while I am away). 32) Sucking the joy out of every happy occasion: birthdays, weddings, christmas etc. 33) Mean with money.

And yet, I still wonder if it was the right decision....................and feel terrible for leaving him devastated.

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pudding21 · 20/02/2017 20:06

Not returning..... Typo

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RandomMess · 20/02/2017 20:44

Doesn't matter if it wasn't that bad, you don't want to be with him so you don't have to be!!!

Stop giving him money - yes give 50% of the mortgage but other than TOUGH SHIT - he has more money than you, he has his inheritance that you won't see a penny of. Detach, detach, detach, he is not your responsibility any more despite what he is telling you.

He will follow the script, the niceness will end and the nasty abusive side come out again...

Have you read about being "hovered Up"?

AnyFucker · 20/02/2017 20:50

You are confusing remorse with self pity

He is full of self pity

wheresthewine36 · 20/02/2017 20:52

OP, you have NOTHING to feel guilty about. Hus "heartbreak" is not your fault. He should be heartbroken. He has destroyed hus relationship with a fantastic, caring woman with his vile behaviour. Don't step backwards, he is in the past now, your future is ahead of you. And what a future it us. No more walking in eggshells. No more worrying about what you'll walk through the door to. No more modifying your behaviour to accommodate a partner who will never make cages for you. You are free of him and whether he sinks or swims is entirely in his hands.
Enjoy your future.xx

anxietyrus · 20/02/2017 20:58

He sounds like my dad. He was a cunt and treated my mum like shit.
Well done for breaking free but please don't go back.
I wish my mum had left years before, I used to beg her but she didn't leave until I was married myself.
Now she has an amazing partner and doing very well career wise.

refusetobeasheep · 20/02/2017 21:31

Print off your list and stick it in your bag for the wobble moments. Your life is only going to improve now. Well done!!

Kikikaakaa · 20/02/2017 21:58

You just wrote a list about my father Confused

The best thing you have ever done was get you and your kids out.

Once mine had gone he found a new woman to do this to immediately

Harree · 20/02/2017 22:21

Wow, that's a long list!

CaraAspen · 20/02/2017 22:27

Stay strong, OP.Flowers
Your list is sad and appalling.

springydaffs · 20/02/2017 23:43

Do the Freedom Programme . Do it yesterday. It'll get your head straight in record time.

springydaffs · 20/02/2017 23:44

Go along to the group, mind. Yy you can do it online but it's much more powerful in person.

Ohyesiam · 21/02/2017 00:08

You are such a star for getting away, tell the guilty part to go to hell if it years it's head. It's the beginning of a new life for you, I didn't have my first child till I was your age, so you are entitled to feel the world is your oyster.
All the Best for your future

pudding21 · 21/02/2017 09:20

Thanks for all the replies again. It really helps.

And randomMess: that link is very helpful, makes a lot of sense.

He sent me a text this morning at 6:42 the fucker saying " I cannot stop thinking about the anger and rage that I have created in you, towards me last night. I just wanted to say how truely sorry I am. Whether you believe that is up to you".

Oh the irony, the anger and rage caused in me!! I told him when I went to pick the boys up last night I was angry with him, for only thinking he should change his behaviour now, not in the last three years. I wasn't raging or angry while I was talking to him. Just perplexed by the whole thing.

I have't replied. I actually thought "oh fuck off" when I heard my phone beep......................

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BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 21/02/2017 09:25

Pudding I feel exactly the same.Was with my DH for 25 years when I left. He was a good guy but he did have a dark side and could be verbally and very ocassionally physically abusive. Even 2.5 years later I still feel horrendous guilt because despite how awful he was to me sometimes I do feel like I have destroyed his world and he is full of regrets. I've had counselling over it and although I do know I left for a reason etc etc, I still feel terrible guilt.

meringue33 · 21/02/2017 09:36

Well done for getting away Pudding. Hope you can put a safe distance between you. He sounds like my best friend's ex; he murdered her last year. She was 38. Even low level violence can quickly escalate; don't trust him an inch 😥

pudding21 · 21/02/2017 09:50

OMG Meringue33.....that is terrible. If you met him you would think he is a nice guy.

Bettyswollocks: I am pleased you left, sad to hear you still feel guilty :(

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pudding21 · 21/02/2017 09:51

sprinydaffs: I will look at the freedom program. Thanks.

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PoorYorick · 21/02/2017 10:31

19. Calling me a cunt, spitting at me, hands round my throat, and to fuck off repeatedly in front of the boys.

This didn't get mentioned until number 19??? Not that everything else isn't also appalling.

An enormous bag of stinking, violent, destructive shit has just been removed from your life. Rise from your ashes, phoenix...whatever lies ahead, at least you won't have this thundering shitbag destroying you at every step.

PoorYorick · 21/02/2017 10:33

" I cannot stop thinking about the anger and rage that I have created in you, towards me last night. I just wanted to say how truely sorry I am. Whether you believe that is up to you".

FUCK OFF

FUCK RIGHT OFF

FUCK OFF AND THEN COME BACK SO YOU (HE) CAN FUCK OFF AGAIN

FUCKING FAUXPOLOGIES THAT MAKE IT YOUR FAULT IF YOU DON'T "BELIEVE" THIS SHITDONGLE, BECAUSE HE'S BEING SO SINCERE AND VULNERABLE YOU HORRID MEANIE

FUCK HIM

AND EVERYONE WHO LOOKS LIKE HIM

pudding21 · 21/02/2017 11:16

Hahahah poor Yorrick.

His mother (who is a cold emotionless cow bag) just sent me this message....so i am getting it from all angles today.

" Spoke to XXXX and he is very sad and misses you so much. Think we are all still in shock....are you managing ok with it all?"

Then this

" What tipped the scales to get you to this, you seemed ok when I was there...You have bickered with one another for ever".

FFS!!!!! She stayed with us for a week, he treated her like shit. She saw him drunk and incoherent. She could tell I was miserable. I know what she is thinking. She left his dad 7 years ago because he was a raging alcoholic. He died last year. They remainded friends, but in her eyes whatever I have been through doesn't compare what she went through.

This is the woman who laughed at me while she was here and said "we dont all have rose tinted glasses, wouldn't it be wonderful to think like you".

I know she is trying to support him, but honestly!

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Innerwarrior · 21/02/2017 11:20

Hi Pudding! You are doing so well. It's just proof of who you know you already are that you are still worrying more about him than you are about yourself. Save your worries - he doesn't deserve them.

Well done. You are fantastic. Keep on keeping on and have a truly wonderful life with your little men Flowers

springydaffs · 21/02/2017 11:40

Now, THAT is a prime example of a flying monkey

pudding21 · 21/02/2017 11:49

springydaffs Sad

She just sent me this " he is XXX son so I know that. But he loves you and those boys more than anything, and yes its wrong, sounds like we made a monster"

See where he gets it from. OMFG!

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springydaffs · 21/02/2017 11:52

Actually, that end bit isn't so bad??