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Masturbation issues: trust, hurt feelings, confusion... what to do?

180 replies

Uni2222 · 14/02/2017 13:34

Hi. I'd like some outside input on my situation, as it's reached a point where I don't know what to do anymore and I'm really upset.

I work at home, except a couple of mornings a week, and my husband goes out to work every day. A couple of months ago, I went to do some laundry for my husband and I found that one of his handkerchiefs was totally wet - he'd clearly used it to clean up after masturbating. This really surprised me, as he's hardly ever at home on his own, so he must have waited in after I went out one morning in order to do so, before going to work himself. I would like to make it absolutely clear that I have no issue in principle with my husband masturbating - we have always talked about it in the past, and sometimes do so together. What surprised and upset me was the idea that he was waiting for me to leave some mornings simply in order to masturbate alone, and this opened up a massive trust problem in my mind.

I figured the best thing to do would be to talk to him about this, so I did. We agreed to be totally open about if and when we masturbate, so that it would definitely not be a matter of breaking the trust between us. I felt much better, and then over Christmas we had far more time for sex and used it well. Then a couple of weeks ago, he told me that he'd masturbated. My feelings went like this: 1) really happy that he'd stuck to our agreement, and that we could trust one another, 2) excited at the thought of him masturbating, 3) really upset that he'd felt the need to do this again. Thinking through all this again I got very mixed up and unhappy, and decided to talk to him about it again.

We have a pretty good sex life, but I have a pretty high sex drive and would always be up for more sex. So another thing that bothered me about this discovery was that he clearly also has an unmet need in terms of his sex life, but that rather than approaching me, he was masturbating. I found this idea really upsetting. I always thought we had quite an open, healthy relationship, and that we talked about the things that mattered, masturbation and sex life included, but this proved otherwise.

In our second discussion on the matter, I explained that I would like to have more sex, and that if he's feeling needy, I would really love it if he would just approach me and tell me so. I would find it really sexy, and be happy to make more time for sex together. I also acknowledged the fact that masturbation and sex are not mutually exclusive - sometimes it's still good to masturbate, even when you have a good sex life. So I suggested that if at any time he wants to masturbate, e.g. in bed together, that's also fine - even sexy. I just don't like this feeling that on the rare occasions when I work away from home, he waits for me to leave and then masturbates. It strikes me as secretive, closed behaviour, and it makes me unhappy and start to shut down towards him as I feel like the trust between us is broken. He agreed to all of these suggestions, and said he was sorry that I had been so upset - apparently he hadn't initially realised just how upset I was when we discussed this the first time. So I thought this was now fixed, and we were onto something really good.

Since then we've had a noticeably better sex life - more sex, more often, more open, and I've felt much happier and closer to him as a result. But today I've just found he's been masturbating again. It upset me even more this time, as I feel like somehow the awesome sex we had at the weekend was just a free masturbation pass - as if he had gone out of his way to spice up our sex on one day, simply in order that I shouldn't be able to mind him masturbating another day. I felt a lot of different things on this discovery - mostly just confusion and great unhappiness. I don't believe I should (and nor would I want to) ask him to stop masturbating, but clearly this has turned into a major issue for me by this point, and it's affecting our relationship.

What should I do to get over this? Am I being totally unreasonable here? Do any of you have experience in similar situations, and if so, how do/did you handle them? I know I need to talk to him again, but I am a bit stumped at this point, as I would have thought that the conversations we've had so far would have resolved something, and I worry that by bringing it up again that makes me look crazy AF... but maybe that's what I am.

OP posts:
thewideeyedpea · 14/02/2017 20:21

Anti-Wank chastity belt Grin

thegoodnameshadgone · 14/02/2017 20:23

I think people are being unnecessarily mean now

AQuietMind · 14/02/2017 20:23

thegoodnameshadgone

If this is what your worried about keys swap lives

Who brought swinging into this? Grin

thegoodnameshadgone · 14/02/2017 20:23

I never meant that lol 😂

thegoodnameshadgone · 14/02/2017 20:25

Keys was a auto correct I've had some prosecco.

PushingThru · 14/02/2017 20:29

Ridiculous! I masturbate a lot - it's nothing to do with whether I'm in a relationship or my desire for sex with anyone else.

StrawberryShortcake32 · 14/02/2017 20:30

Appreciate that you'd probably rather him come to you rather than just pleasuring himself but sometimes it's nice to go it alone not having to worry about the other person.

It's not a matter of trust, he's not cheating on you.

Ineedmorelemonpledge · 14/02/2017 20:31

Duct tape some oven gloves onto his hands op. That'll learn him.

Then there'll be no more unauthorised hanky spanking knuckle shuffles.

thegoodnameshadgone · 14/02/2017 20:35

That itch you can ever reach on your back. That's it. It's nothing. That itch you like scratching between your toes that you do best yourself cause it tickles otherwise? Well. There you go.

Redglitter · 14/02/2017 20:36

In answer to the 'what to do' in your thread title. NOTHING leave the poor man alone. Ffs i can't believe you have him tell you when he's wanking that's just wrong.

You need to look at your actions not his because your reaction is not normal

Greaterexpectations · 14/02/2017 20:57

It was worth reading this whole thread just for the 'wanky hanky' comment Grin

FourKidsNotCrazyYet · 14/02/2017 21:10

I can't decide if this is a wind up post. Your DP seriously has to come and tell you when he has a wank. Does he need permission to fart too? No DP you can't fart today, you farted Friday. Hmm

MyWineTime · 14/02/2017 22:07

Poor bloke.
You could at least come back and reply OP
Grin

Sugarlumps333 · 14/02/2017 22:08

OP won't come back - she is installing cameras in her house as we speak and making an inventory of all the handkerchief's in sight

SoMuchPain · 14/02/2017 22:16

You must have a lot of time on your hands to give the poor bloke so much hassle over a wank! Leave him alone and why not go off and do your own bit of self loving! Stop messing his head up! His body - his dick - you don't own or control him!

ddssdd · 14/02/2017 23:00
Grin
Expat38matt · 15/02/2017 07:16

Just chiming in with the same feedback as most - it's not a personal slight to u if he has a wank - you can't pile on sex until he no longer wants to do it either
It's fine it's normal don't make him feel guilty or dirty ffs !!!
I do it quite a lot actually and sure DH does too but I don't ask and don't want to know !!!

Expat38matt · 15/02/2017 07:20

Right - how does she know it wasn't snot in the hanky ?

Tinkerbec · 15/02/2017 07:43

'Right - how does she know it wasn't snot in the hanky ?'

Scratch and sniff maybe?

SmileEachDay · 15/02/2017 09:04

Ewww Tinc EWWW. Envy

Catherinebee85 · 15/02/2017 09:12

Wanking is different to sex which youve already acknowledged. You've probably now created the fear of getting caught which makes it more exciting.

Maybe he doesn't always want to get permission. Maybe he doesn't always want to do it lying next to you. You're over thinking it and trying to control things.

Breathe. Yabu!

HCantThinkOfAUsername · 15/02/2017 09:39

Op hasn't come back Hmm

SomeonesRealName · 15/02/2017 10:01

Ha ha best trolling ever surely!! Grin

Deathraystare · 15/02/2017 11:55

Only a problem surely if he ignores you totally and never wants sex with you. Why a problem if you are not there? Do you need to watch every time???

SeaShores · 15/02/2017 13:05

I think the handkerchief was the giveaway here. And he must be very 'fertile' to soak it. How does a teaspoon soak a hanky? (And how many men possess one?)

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