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Masturbation issues: trust, hurt feelings, confusion... what to do?

180 replies

Uni2222 · 14/02/2017 13:34

Hi. I'd like some outside input on my situation, as it's reached a point where I don't know what to do anymore and I'm really upset.

I work at home, except a couple of mornings a week, and my husband goes out to work every day. A couple of months ago, I went to do some laundry for my husband and I found that one of his handkerchiefs was totally wet - he'd clearly used it to clean up after masturbating. This really surprised me, as he's hardly ever at home on his own, so he must have waited in after I went out one morning in order to do so, before going to work himself. I would like to make it absolutely clear that I have no issue in principle with my husband masturbating - we have always talked about it in the past, and sometimes do so together. What surprised and upset me was the idea that he was waiting for me to leave some mornings simply in order to masturbate alone, and this opened up a massive trust problem in my mind.

I figured the best thing to do would be to talk to him about this, so I did. We agreed to be totally open about if and when we masturbate, so that it would definitely not be a matter of breaking the trust between us. I felt much better, and then over Christmas we had far more time for sex and used it well. Then a couple of weeks ago, he told me that he'd masturbated. My feelings went like this: 1) really happy that he'd stuck to our agreement, and that we could trust one another, 2) excited at the thought of him masturbating, 3) really upset that he'd felt the need to do this again. Thinking through all this again I got very mixed up and unhappy, and decided to talk to him about it again.

We have a pretty good sex life, but I have a pretty high sex drive and would always be up for more sex. So another thing that bothered me about this discovery was that he clearly also has an unmet need in terms of his sex life, but that rather than approaching me, he was masturbating. I found this idea really upsetting. I always thought we had quite an open, healthy relationship, and that we talked about the things that mattered, masturbation and sex life included, but this proved otherwise.

In our second discussion on the matter, I explained that I would like to have more sex, and that if he's feeling needy, I would really love it if he would just approach me and tell me so. I would find it really sexy, and be happy to make more time for sex together. I also acknowledged the fact that masturbation and sex are not mutually exclusive - sometimes it's still good to masturbate, even when you have a good sex life. So I suggested that if at any time he wants to masturbate, e.g. in bed together, that's also fine - even sexy. I just don't like this feeling that on the rare occasions when I work away from home, he waits for me to leave and then masturbates. It strikes me as secretive, closed behaviour, and it makes me unhappy and start to shut down towards him as I feel like the trust between us is broken. He agreed to all of these suggestions, and said he was sorry that I had been so upset - apparently he hadn't initially realised just how upset I was when we discussed this the first time. So I thought this was now fixed, and we were onto something really good.

Since then we've had a noticeably better sex life - more sex, more often, more open, and I've felt much happier and closer to him as a result. But today I've just found he's been masturbating again. It upset me even more this time, as I feel like somehow the awesome sex we had at the weekend was just a free masturbation pass - as if he had gone out of his way to spice up our sex on one day, simply in order that I shouldn't be able to mind him masturbating another day. I felt a lot of different things on this discovery - mostly just confusion and great unhappiness. I don't believe I should (and nor would I want to) ask him to stop masturbating, but clearly this has turned into a major issue for me by this point, and it's affecting our relationship.

What should I do to get over this? Am I being totally unreasonable here? Do any of you have experience in similar situations, and if so, how do/did you handle them? I know I need to talk to him again, but I am a bit stumped at this point, as I would have thought that the conversations we've had so far would have resolved something, and I worry that by bringing it up again that makes me look crazy AF... but maybe that's what I am.

OP posts:
SpookyPotato · 14/02/2017 13:59

Is this real? You sound very difficult.. People are allowed to masturbate, it's completely separate from sex. If you were having no sex and he was at it all the time it would be different. It's just a quick release.
My DP would laugh if I started telling him when I masturbated Grin

Waffles80 · 14/02/2017 14:00

And welcome to Mumsnet

Costacoffeeplease · 14/02/2017 14:00

Yabu, and controlling, you need to get a grip

Poor bloke

SmileEachDay · 14/02/2017 14:01

ah bum.

It's not real, is it?

Bloggybollocks · 14/02/2017 14:01

Christ, can you imagine the uproar if a man posted this about his wife?
OP you are scarily controlling, if he wants a wank, he can and should without 'declaring' it to you......if he wants sex with you he will, if he'd rather eank then guess what? That's fine! I wait til my husband is out of the house before I wax my pubes, should I be declaring this too?!

SeveredPixieBits · 14/02/2017 14:06

So you have no problem with him doing it as long as he doesn't actually do it?

Yes, you are being crazy AF. Leave the poor man alone.

SilenceIsBroken · 14/02/2017 14:08

You asked him to tell you when he's masturbated? Poor man. Let him have a private life. He must feel totally smothered.

GinIsIn · 14/02/2017 14:08

Half term....

DoItTooJulia · 14/02/2017 14:10
Hmm
InTheMoodForLove · 14/02/2017 14:10

totally unreasonable OP yep
you have good sex and good communication
don't go and spoil it all with this very childish (at best) controlling (at worse) all around off putting attitude. Don't talk about it again ! Snooping around the laundry, how sad !

MirandaWest · 14/02/2017 14:11

Masturbating is different from having sex. When I masturbate, I do it on my own - I wouldn't want to do it in bed with DH there. I wouldn't want to tell him when I have mastubated and I don't think he'd be that interested.

Viviene · 14/02/2017 14:13

This is not real, surely?
On the off- chance that it is, OP you need therapy! You sound batshit crazySmile

Henriefta007 · 14/02/2017 14:18

How very strange! You sound really controlling.

Hulaballoo · 14/02/2017 14:19

It sounds like you may be feeling like he's unsatisfied because he's masturbating... And that somehow you're linking him not telling you to disloyalty... Is he looking at porn to do it, maybe you feel insecure by this or threatened in some way? I think you need to pin point what makes you feel hurt. Personally I think that masturbating is private, yes you can do it together but other times it's a a carnal release, no emotion just physical and you yourself are there expert of your own body -quick and to the point. He may just fancy a quick release on his own without anyone knowing even his gf/wife which is totally up to him. He isn't replacing you, he's still very active with you and he's not preferring masturbation over you... It sounds like he really loves you if he's trying to tell you that he's done it but... Should need to??? Imagine your oh asking for you to tell him every time you had a snack... You can snack together, but there's no need to tell someone every time you snack... Iyswim. I hope you're able to work through your insecurity, try to see it as he'll do it, regardless, with you at work or not... And that's ok. It's almost easier if you don't tell each other when you masturbate-know that you both do and leave it at that...

needmoregin · 14/02/2017 14:21

This is the creepiest thing I have read in ages !

OFGSIsItTheWeekendYet · 14/02/2017 14:25

So he can have a wank but only with your permission, then you don't mind, however should he choose to knock a quick one out he's betraying your trust.
If he's personal choice to do it was affecting the amount of sex he was having with you I would say you have a point but that's not the case is it and therefore, yes I think you're being unreasonable.
It's his body he can play with it if he wants, he doesn't need your say so to do so.
Tbh you keep stating that you don't have a problem with it but clearly you do, if it doesn't involve you. Why should he have to tell/ask you, it's none of your business.
Don't get me wrong I occasionally text my dp to tell him I'm doing a bit of 'DIY' lol, but that's because I know it means that when he gets home from work he'll be rampant, not because I have to let him know.
If my dp reacted the way you have I would find it a huge turn off, extremely controlling, a complete overreaction to a completely normal and natural thing and I'd probably be doing it more rather than having sex with him.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 14/02/2017 14:27

You sound quite controlling.

His body, his choice.

TheNaze73 · 14/02/2017 14:29

This thread made Mumsnet Madness within the hour on Twitter. Biscuit

Normandy · 14/02/2017 14:33

Get a grip. You contradict yourself. His body.

The issues here are yours. This is controlling and insecure behaviour on your part.

picklemepopcorn · 14/02/2017 14:33

If it's to do with using porn, then YANBU. I'd want to know about that. Other than that, back off. It's like scratching an itch, blowing your nose. A purely functional process that has nothing to do with you.

Shockers · 14/02/2017 14:33

Buy him a box of tissues and then you need never know again...

Opel9 · 14/02/2017 14:33

Makes no sense. You don't have a problem with it but then list so many problems with it that make it prohibitive unless you are present.

The odd thing is why he is using items that need washing and not just loo roll then flushing, almost like he doesn't really care if you do find out. Perhaps this is his way of rebelling against the rules. Either way I think he will keep doing it and you cant really stop him. It is his body

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 14/02/2017 14:37

How weird.

Gallavich · 14/02/2017 14:39

You're being really controlling. This is not acceptable. You're displaying a sense of ownership over his body, sexuality and behaviour that is very concerning. Take a step back and really address what you're worried about, because policing his sexual behaviour when he's on his own is unacceptable.

ExitStage · 14/02/2017 14:46

Love it!

Normally when a woman posts about her husband people are queuing to call him a wanker. This one really is a wanker!

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