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What should I do :(

69 replies

Mini1977 · 22/01/2017 16:18

New to this but I will try and explain in as short of a way I can.
I had been with my babies father for 2 years and our little one came along big shock but we got by, 1 year and a half after our baby was born I started back at work I was working long shifts and when I got home my other half was always going out so we where hardly seeing each other. I decided to leave. He continued to try and get me back but I was happy plodding along on my own. 6 months after we split he met a girl, who practically moved in with him before they were even together as she had just split from her bf and he had chucked her out! They where together for a few months and my other half told her to get her own house because he needed space she did this. In Feb last year me and my other half rekindled and it was like love at first sight again, this girl made me feel like I owed her something even though my other half had always said he only wanted his family back... I invited the girl up one night to explain that I was sorry for just appearing and taking back my family which she seemed understanding about. BUT I was wrong behind my back she was constantly messaging him sneaking up to the house when I was at work etc... it got to the point anytime we argued my other half took her to his own home for a fling! It broke my in 2 but I wasn't loosing my family again so I put it at the back of my head the girl then made up a fake facebook telling me he was cheating on me etc and tried to make out that I made the Facebook up myself and I was sending myself messages (I don't think anyone would be as sad to do so) we finally caught her out with doing that and she wasn't happy in the slightest so she called social work and made up this whole lie about how we miss treat our daughter etc... that was put to bed by the social work as they can see that we aren't perfect parents but we do the job that we need to in regards to bringing our little one up so then I found out a few months ago she had been messaging him while he was out drinking with friends he told her to leave him alone but I was so mad so I messaged the girl telling her to leave my family alone to which she replied she has her own man and doesn't want mine (another lie) I let it go but I'm now sitting here wondering what to do as my other half has went away for the weekend with a family member he called me last night and we where chatting away everything was fine I then heard a buzzing I asked what it was and he said it was my fne (it wasnt) he then said it was his and hung up straight away and then txt me saying it wasn't his fne it was the family members so in my head I kept thinking that's not adding up as he would've new straight away if it was the family members so I let it go and went to sleep with our little one. I got up today feeling sick and knew I had to ask questions! A friend of ours had the girl up lastnight and she left abruptly without saying why around the time my other half fne was buzzing so I messaged him asking of it was her! He replied yes it was she was trying to call him he said to leave him alone because it would just call arguments and she questioned how would I find out his reply was no one calls me at this time (us girls know everything) but after he said this he then started telling me he's sick of me and he thinks his time is done with me?? Was I wrong to question this? Is this way of saying he wants her after telling me for months she's "nobody" to him and he's happy with his family. I honestly don't know what to do and tbh my friends aren't much help . Does any one have any help as I feel so lost and isolated, he's due home tonight and I don't know if it's going to be an argument! I'm in the process of booking a holiday for his birthday as well so now I'm wondering was that a waste of money :( any advice would be great. Thanks for reading.

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AnyFucker · 22/01/2017 17:59

You are being a fool to yourself, love

"I'd like him to do it this time"

Jesus Christ, stop giving him all the power. He is going to continue to humiliate you. How will you feel when your daughter accepts shitty treatment from men when she grows up. After all, that is what she is witnessing.

Break the pattern, love. It ends here. Show your daughter what you were never taught.

Mini1977 · 22/01/2017 18:02

I'm 25, the OW is 29, my other half is 39.
I think he does want best of both worlds but the difference is I work full time, look after our child, own my own house, everything in the house I have worked for where as the OW doesn't have a job, lives with her parents who still ask that she is in for 11 each night unless they know she is staying at a friends (weird).
I'm not competing... if he wants her he's welcome to her, I know it will hurt but what kills me the most is knowing that my daughter will be around her (if she wasn't so twisted and making lies up to get our child taken away) then it wouldn't bother me that he had moved on I'd hope that our child got on with his OW but I know that she will try to turn my child againt me with her poison. She on the other hand is trying to compete, she tries to be like me! Dying her hair the same colour, copying everything I do when and if she can.
I just need the push and he's gone but she will always be at his beckon call.

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Costacoffeeplease · 22/01/2017 18:04

That's her problem, and to be honest it doesn't sound like he'll stay with her for long, if at all, so I wouldn't worry about her influence on your daughter

Why would you prefer to be dumped? Be the dumper, far far better

Costacoffeeplease · 22/01/2017 18:05

He's 39??? Jeez. He sounds about 18

AnyFucker · 22/01/2017 18:08

You are competing because you are still hanging onto to this crap relationship

If you weren't you would end it right now and quit the silly "he's got to do it" bollocks

Mini1977 · 22/01/2017 18:14

I left him 2 years ago and when we got back together he couldn't understand why I left. I was working long shifts getting home at tea time making our little ones tea and then he was going out to friends house like every night! I wasn't seeing him and I felt like we were distant so I thought while our little one is still young I'll leave now... he tried to get me back but it felt like it was already done as much as I loved him I just couldn't put any of us through it. When we got back everything was different he was there for us both he was more involved and in a way I was glad I took the break because I think we both needed it but he still to this day doesn't understand it and he brings it up now and again. So this time around I'd like him to do the walking away it wasn't easy for me and I think that he needs to see that he's said what he's said today and if that is the case then it should be a breeze for him! If not then heel understand what I felt... difference this time being is there is no going back 5 years down the drain. If it ends tonight then that's it. As anyfucker said I need to think of my daughter and I would never dream of her being in a relationship where she feels lost on what to do she deserves someone that is going to treat her like a princess.

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Joysmum · 22/01/2017 18:18

Let me lay it on the line here as to what is normal in a loving relationship:

If your partner screws up and hurts you, they are mortified at their behaviour and go out of their way to make it up to you and jump through hoops to prove they are worth a second chance.

What a loving person doesn't do is get angry and blame you for wanting to protect yourself from the pain he's caused you.

As the others said, he could have shut this down ages ago and you yourself have admitted he wants the best of both worlds. This is natural t a man who cherishes you and his daughter as his family Sad

AnyFucker · 22/01/2017 18:25

You have got to do it your own way, of course

But every day you accept treatment like this your daughter is watching and learning

Mini1977 · 22/01/2017 18:28

Finally starting to realise that now!
It's just the fear of being alone but I've done it before I can do it again about time I saw sense.

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AnyFucker · 22/01/2017 18:33

You have a lot going for you, love

This dipshit doesn't deserve you

Send him on his way to play games with women daft enough to engage with him. You are better than that.

AnyFucker · 22/01/2017 18:35

At 25 you have the world at your feet. Sweet little daughter. Own home. Work full time and support yourself

Stop wasting your youth on this soon to be 40's manchild.

Secretlife0fbees · 22/01/2017 18:40

Listen, men like him are too spineless to end a relationship, they want you to do all the dirty work while they love playing the victim. As if he would ever do the decent thing Of ending it so you could feel justifi d and get the sympathy you deserve... never gonna happen love.
You need to sort your own life out unfortunately, don't let him take the piss for another day! I know this because my nearly ex husband is the same... wants everyone to feel sorry for him.
You know deep down that you're going to have to be the strong one here. For you and your dd xx

Secretlife0fbees · 22/01/2017 18:41

Not only can you do it on your own but your life will be 1000x better!!!!

Mini1977 · 22/01/2017 18:44

Well fate is signed and sealed he's contacted me saying he's going his way and I should go mines! The door is now locked 🖐

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Secretlife0fbees · 22/01/2017 18:48

He's done you a huge favour xx

Costacoffeeplease · 22/01/2017 18:48

Great news, you're free of the useless twat

I'd wrap a big red bow round him and send him off to her, she's welcome to him

Concentrate on you and your daughter, and showing her that you have dignity and self respect, and she should never accept this kind of relationship for herself in future

You have much more going for you than either him or his ow

AnyFucker · 22/01/2017 18:49

Thank fuck somebody took control here

Now don't let him crawling back like he did before

Joysmum · 22/01/2017 18:50

Good for you. As for your daughter, she needs to know (just as you need to fully appreciate) that she doesn't need men for n her life who don't cherish and support her in being the very best person she can be.

Her dad can continue to be his version of a dad to her, you can bring her up to be a strong and independent young lady with the world at her feet, the same as you have now your looking upwards and outwards. He was holding you back.

AnyFucker · 22/01/2017 18:52

Damn right he was holding you back

Happyinthehills · 22/01/2017 18:55

That's brilliant news for you and especially for your daughter. The less she sees of you in such a terrible position the less likely he is to end up there herself.

Mini1977 · 22/01/2017 19:08

The only thing is right now I have everything he needs! I have his car & car keys, all his clothes, footwear etc. So I hope her mum's going to put him up until he can get it all back 😂 I feel hurt but at the same time I feel free, time to be the happy go lucky person I used to be 😊

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RedastheRose · 22/01/2017 19:24

OP read up on here or online about people with narcissistic personality disorder. You will probably find loads of the stuff on there familiar. You will also probably realise that you have a lot of the traits that attract a narcissist. Basically you give a lot more than you take and have little sense of self worth due to your family history which he has eroded even further. There are lots of people on here who have experience exactly what you have been through, some of us for many many years, and we have all come out the other side knowing that we are much better off rid of the sad selfish bastards (or bitches there are women narcs too). There is a link on here for people who have to parent with narcs which you may find really useful to help you deal with him in the future. If you can access it I would suggest getting counselling to deal with your low self esteem and help you become a stronger person emotionally so that you won't ever accept being treated like this again. Btw almost all partners of narcs try again and again and put up with way more shit that they should before finally getting rid (there is almost always an 0W in the picture too) as they have been worn away emotionally and have often been distanced from friends and family so they have little in the way of a support network. Take time for you and try and make closer friends with your colleagues or other mums you meet. You will then have people in RL (real life) to talk to. Good luck, be strong and remember he has lost much more than you have he just doesn't realise it yet!

GizmoFrisby · 22/01/2017 19:46

What AnyFucker said 👍🏻
Op I think you will continue to defend him until he has you in the gutter. Been there done that got the tshirt.

Get out while you can.

Mini1977 · 22/01/2017 19:54

Thanks ks very much redastherose I shall read up about it. I've had counseling as I was a self harmer due to my childhood it helped alot I haven't self harmed since then, which was in July. But episodes like this make we feel worthless again as before this all happened today he was there calling me all the nice things, doing everything etc but when I get this low it all comes back 😭
Aw belive me I already am in the gutter, this man knows what and how to say things to me to make me feel so small and worthless and it's all started now! I was coping with it until the messages started rolling in! I now have a 3 years daughter breaking her heart crying because she isn't getting to see her dad after him promising he would be home and I'm fighting back the urge to curl up in a ball and let the tears stroll 😣😭

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Costacoffeeplease · 22/01/2017 20:19

Turn your phone off tonight and ignore him