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Would you have the same instinct as me about this?

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lottieandmia · 19/01/2017 02:51

I met a man on a dating site about 2.5 years ago. At first he wasn't very upfront about his intentions but at that time I wasn't really interested in a relationship myself. He started being quite rude though and saying he would only ever be interested in me for sex. I felt his approach was arrogant. He also told me a number of times that he doesn't like children and I have three so I felt there was little point in carrying on seeing him. I distanced myself from him. I had concerns that he may be a narcissist (captivatingly charming on first date)

Since then, however he has been trying to get back into my good books continually. Trying to arrange to meet up etc. We initially had similar interests and good conversations. I told him his behaviour initially had put me off. I am not sure if I could even like him again the way I did. I also told him I want a real relationship now and I do not want anything casual. He told me he has changed his mind, he does think he may be able to have a future with me. Apparently he also does like children Hmm

I think it seems likely he's just hoping to wear me down because what he wants is for me to be like I was at that one point (having come out of a stressful relationship) 2 and a half years ago. During a conversation he seemed to be hinting that he wanted to try to have a relationship with me but did not seem able to actually say the words. For example, 'yes I want to see if we can try something ser...'

Given that he's 36 years old and behaves like this i am suspicious of his intentions. He also said 'but nobody can be 100% certain that a relationship would work out' that surely isn't the point.

Once I've been turned off someone it's rare for me to go back and change my feelings really. My instinct is that he intends to try to manipulate me into the situation he felt he was in control of before (i.e. Try to just use me essentially). And he was put out that I abruptly started dating someone else. It did not turn out the way he expected.

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Peanutbutterrules · 19/01/2017 08:59

Sounds utterly creepy. Why would you even talk to him again? Its harassment.

Run. Now. Don't look back.

Ewwww....

lottieandmia · 19/01/2017 09:18

Ok I'll block him again. Hopefully he'll stop trying.

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Sweets101 · 19/01/2017 09:32

I've had a couple of this. I got rid of them by being extremely odd. One a sent a very long monologue about being a duck. It went on and on. He replied so i replied as said duck. Took an evening but never heard from him again.
Another suddenly took to sending lots of dick pics, i "admitted" to being a lonely truck driver from Texas and thanked him, said my lonely trucker mates were grateful too. Don't know if he believed me but he did fuck off.

Pocketsaviour · 19/01/2017 09:42

This isn't good. Ringing you from other phone numbers is really creepy.

Pocketsaviour · 19/01/2017 09:45

Check out this book The Gift of Fear
Every woman who dates should read this book. Especially so if you are not NT and may miss cues that others would pick up. It gives you very specific things to look for in others behaviour, which I find very valuable.

lottieandmia · 19/01/2017 10:12

Thank you Pocketsaviour. I am very naive - I irritate myself.

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Talkingmouse · 19/01/2017 11:31

100% he has not changed. Block him. Don't answer any unknown numbers for a good while. If it is someone/thing else important they will leave a message. If you accidentally answer and it is him, hang up immediately. Put any emails to spam. Ignore and move on.

lottieandmia · 19/01/2017 12:24

Thank you everyone for confirming what I already felt.

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SadTrombone · 19/01/2017 12:33

toptoe

People don't really change, unless the experience a life changing event. He knows you've blocked him so calls from different phones. This is bordering on harassment imo and harassment is unkind behaviour.

Kind people listen and take no for an answer. Unkind people pester. He's basically ignoring your wishes and carrying on anyway.

^this

TheMysteriousJackelope · 19/01/2017 15:47

Definitely block him again.

Write down how often he has got around the blocks in the past and what media he used.

Next time he contacts you contact the police and ask for their advice on how to handle a stalker. If they recommend it, the next time he contacts you tell him 'I have reported you to the police for stalking, do not contact me again or I will file for a restraining order against you'. But only if the police recommend this.

georgethecat · 19/01/2017 22:02

Nope. Trust your gut. Ditch him

jojo2916 · 20/01/2017 09:43

I would be cautious but I have seen men who are total commitment phobes, don't want a serious relationship etc and carry on this way for years and then fall head over heels with someone and make a really good partner to them, you sound intelligent and I expect you would notice if there were more warning signs but even the most bachelor type man can turn into a family man when they click with someone they adore. I expect your attitude made him see you as different from other women he's met and he now will go to all lengths to get you to see him as bf material, hope it works out if you decide that's what you want

lottieandmia · 21/01/2017 22:09

If he thought a relationship with me was possible I think that he would have said it in the beginning though, no?

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QuiltedAloeVera · 22/01/2017 09:31

see you as different from other women

To mean, he used to think all women were worthless and now he thinks OP is the one woman in the world who might not be worthless?

Never go out with a man who fundamentally disrespects women in general, no matter what he claims to think about any woman in particular.

OP, I think you were completely right in your first post: this man is just trying to manipulate you. That's why he went from never wanting a relationship with you to wanting a relationship, why he went from not liking children to liking children. By the age of 36 most people are fairly sure on that one. He's just going through a list of lines until he finds the one that works.

You are worth so much more than this.

lottieandmia · 22/01/2017 16:41

I'm interested in someone else now anyway. He's missed the boat well and truly. Once I go off someone I can rarely get those feelings back.

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lottieandmia · 22/01/2017 16:42

'Never go out with a man who fundamentally disrespects women in general, no matter what he claims to think about any woman in particular.'

Quite

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