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Do I start again?

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HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 08:29

My DP and I have been together almost 2 years and I'm 18 weeks pg, I also have 3 older children. We had a up and down start to the relationship, a relationship that no one knew about for a year so it never affected my children.

My ex husband was emotionally abusive and continues to be difficult, so when I was free of him I spent 18 months getting the 'me' back that he'd tried to kill off. I lost weight, started going out again, had friends and hobbies. I've just lost all that hard work and myself again this year.

My DP doesn't like going out to the places I feel comfortable and after a termination of a pregnancy we had in May last year I sort of lost the will to go myself. It was easier to stay in. We're a lot more stable now in general but he has a drinking problem (always has done, a highly functional alcoholic since 16, possibly younger) that he is seeing the doctor about this week to try and combat. It sounds selfish but for two years my life has revolved around his drinking, ( had too much, had too little, hungover etc) I'm bored of it. Every time we've done anything, gone anywhere, every night when we're in. It's always been about how that's his 'identity.'

Our sex life has gone downhill massively, he doesn't ever initiate or seem bothered by it. That affects me a lot as I love sex with him and miss having the closeness that gave us. He's quite emotionally cold at times so this was the only time we felt on an even playing field. I miss feeling attractive and wanted.

He poured his remaining alcohol down the sink last night and cried because he felt so emotional about it. I've never inspired that kind of response, he just turns into a martyr if I confront him over any issues I have, there's always a reason or an excuse why it's actually my fault. Just like with my ex.

After thinking for a long time, I think I've put my finger on why this is affecting me so much atm. I used to have lots of male friends ( some FB's, but still friends) and for the 18 months after my ex they built my confidence up and gave me a reason to get out of the house. Since I became the boring fat pregnant lady, obviously this doesn't happen. I miss it, I miss my friends. I miss feeling fun, confident, attractive and wanted for my company. I don't often feel like that with my DP. So I've just kinda retreated into myself. So I don't know what to do, I don't want to leave right as he's trying to fix the problem that's blighted us for so long. Neither do I want to spend next NYE with a 6m old without one text from a friend to make me feel valued, or to let myself lose another year of the life she fought for for so long. I just don't know if I can be myself with him.

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HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 11:00

I've already told him we need time apart. I'm going to my mothers.

I really don't see that I've been 'yes, but....' about the alcohol. It's shit, I hate it, always hated it, just never realised how bad it was until last night. I agree that needs to change and I can't do it for him. He's made the decision to go to the doctor, I've never asked him to.

I disagree that I've screwed my children up though due to this. I have three children who are excited about their new brother and love having someone who spends time with them, cuddles them and doesn't scream that they are idiots at them. That doesn't change anything about him and his issues. Just means that they are still going to be losing something valuable in their lives. And that is still sad.

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SheFeedsYouTeaAndOranges · 01/01/2017 11:01

Good luck, OP Flowers

SheFeedsYouTeaAndOranges · 01/01/2017 11:02

That's why I said to slow down next time. You said upthread that you didn't feel that it had been a hurry, but it was, because you hadn't had chance to see the extent of the alcohol problem, but it was always there.

Take care.

SheFeedsYouTeaAndOranges · 01/01/2017 11:04

Sorry for the little posts! But I've just re read your last few posts again.

If you'd taken more time to get to know him, waiting before having a baby together, waited before living with him and your children...

Then you would not be pregnant by an alcoholic, your children wouldn't be losing another person they'd become attached to, and none of this would have happened because, even if you hadn't realised until last night how bad his drinking was, there wouldn't be so much at stake and so much to lose.

HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 11:05

To be fair and honest, it did get better last year. He'd drink every other day, or stop for 3-4 days. Not sure how/why. It was easy to not see it when it wasn't there all the time

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RandomMcRandomer · 01/01/2017 11:08

Drying out is messy. He needs to remove himself whilst he does that. It's your house and you have kids ffs. Don't be the one to move out. This will be hard enough on you and the kids as it is.

Once he is dry you may stand a chance. I've seen people come through the other side but it's messy and unpleasant. It's also something he needs to want and do. If he is choosing to detox it's a good step but you need him out until he is through the other side. Then you take it slow and see what happens.

Good luck.

HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 11:09

I've lived with him for 4 years. It's not like I moved him in a week after finding him by the bins at the pub.

I've never been around anyone who drinks. I was raised in an almost t total environment. I can see I fooled myself, but I honestly didn't see it was excessive because I had no benchmark. He never really acts 'drunk', never abusive or violent, just happy and sleepy. It was easy to not open my eyes. My fault, my mistake.

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HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 11:10

Oh I won't move out, house is in my name.

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mummytime · 01/01/2017 11:13

I would suggest:
Alanon so you see the truth about alcoholism.
And the freedom programme; so you can start to see your worth and function without men. ( Which you don't seem to have done during your 18 months of being single.)

HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 11:15

No I didn't to be fair.

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SheFeedsYouTeaAndOranges · 01/01/2017 11:32

Thing is HC, if you do the Freedom Programme and see how you can function without men, you might well find yourself on the "Anyone else happy to be single forever?" thread Wink

I think we've all (well, ok, a lot of us, including me) have turned a blind eye to something we probably could have seen if we'd looked hard enough, or been willing to see it.

Sometimes the responses and advice on here seems quite brutal (I've been on the receiving end of that in the past too!) but it's only because people can see themselves back in your situation, or one similar, as much as they see you there.

Really, good luck x

FantasticButtocks · 01/01/2017 11:37

There's no point dwelling on the stuff that has already happened. If he's serious about tackling his alcoholism (which is an illness) then can you ask him to leave while he does that and you can get on with your relationship once he has got it under control. You should be apart while he does the detox, but you don't need to be apart for ever. You explain to DCs that daddy has got an illness which makes him drink too much and he has had to go away until he is better.

You have been through much worse OP, and you can get through this. Best of luck Flowers

SheFeedsYouTeaAndOranges · 01/01/2017 11:43

(Sorry, very slight tangent, but I think this every time I see your name, FantasticButtocks

Do you really have fantastic buttocks?)

HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 11:47

Heck I'd like to know too.

Do you?

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SheFeedsYouTeaAndOranges · 01/01/2017 11:51
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ThirdThoughts · 01/01/2017 12:09

I agree with having him move out. I wouldn't be promising to have him back if he does become T-Total though, I think you need to end it. Partly for you, because actually its not the only thing wrong in the relationship, partly for him, because he needs to be able to do this for himself, if he does it for you and the relationship breaks down for other reasons then he could end up back at square one.

The other stuff that's wrong is working out why you lost yourself when this relationship started/became more serious. You gained so much when you were single (though watch out for finding validation through men) but then lost it in your next serious relationship. Some of this could just being passive and unobservant of what was happening and just going with whatever he was doing, you might have deliberately given up things to accomodate/impress him, or he may have been controlling about how you spent your time/who you spoke to. (even in a low key way like 'Do you have to?/'Again?'/etc where it just ends up seeming easier to spend less time on those things) Or maybe a combination.

I think you need to work on deciding what is important in your life, what make you feel good, happy, active, etc. And make sure that any future relationships add to your life rather than subtract.

HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 12:15

To be honest, he's been nothing but encouraging about me going out and seeing people. It's me that hasn't gone. Think that with the pregnancy, tiredness from my other 3, and friends drifting away I've lost my taste for it.

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HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 12:15

Just still miss being the life and soul of the party I once was.

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keepingonrunning · 01/01/2017 12:49

HC are you 28?

CupofTeaTime · 01/01/2017 12:54

You don't get to be the 'life and soul of the party' have freedom to be young and carefree etc etc when you have 4 kids. It's called being a mother

HormonalChicken · 01/01/2017 13:40

You do when you have one night out a week and for that one night you get to just let go. Still a mother, just one who gets a break.

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keepingonrunning · 01/01/2017 17:14

Just let go, when you're pregnant? To me letting go implies booze and fags.
Is DP babysitting while you go out? Is he pissed on those evenings too? What happens if DC are suddenly taken ill while you are out and he is smashed?

FantasticButtocks · 01/01/2017 17:30

Grin in answer to your enquiries as to the state of my buttocks...

My name comes from the fact I live in a very hilly place so am constantly walking up and down hills which I once said should give me fantastic buttocks! Grin So, more wishful thinking than actual fact, though I definitely think all the hill walking keeps them in fairly good nick for my age Blush

AragornsManlyStubble · 01/01/2017 18:27

I only go out when the kids are with their father. Haven't been out since May. Only 18weeks pregnant. Never smoked, and never drank when pregnant. I mean dancing, singing karaoke, seeing friends wearing ridiculous heels. That's my letting go.

AragornsManlyStubble · 01/01/2017 18:30

Sorry, name changed.

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