Survey to men particularly?!

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Just looking for a glimmer of hope in humanity (particularly the "man" part of that word:
Do ALL men hire call girls or cheat with chat lines and webcams or if you find DP does is it worth hopping on the next train only to find we're all on a merry-go-round of swapping partners in life when they get caught out?

Moral dilemma for me - I feel like many people find partners/husbands cheating and airing their heartbreak on MN so gives me little hope for even bothering trading up ...so to speak.....
Any men want to give anonymous perspective please?

Fuck it, I actually think all men who purchase a woman's consent are twats be them single or married. i can't articulate it properly but a man who happily purchases consent to have his sexual wants fulfilled creeps me out and it sounds twatty.

Maybe someone else can articulate it better but very few men who purchase consent won't know if that woman is doing it because her boyfriend made her, or if she's funding an addiction etc. I can't word it properly.

CarolDecker what is OLD....I'm still getting to know the abbreviations on here but don't know that one! 🙂

Ok got it I figured out OLD lol 😝

The bottom line is sny man who is prepared to have sex with a woman who is doing it hit money by definition doesn't care if she wants him or is enjoyingbit, and is thus a revolting piece of shit.

Not fair to call prostitutes "slappers". Some are single mothers trying to make a few extra because rents are astronomical in some cities in the UK. Also take in to consideration cuts to benefits it's no wonder some are doing it.

DadWasHere you made me chuckle, and thank you JustWoman I agree with you on the whole but unfortunately in this modern world of online access to everything and anything at your fingertips on a smartphone etc more men (and women) than we care to know are getting curious or bored and one thing leads to another.....many women who are happily married are unaware their husbands are up to something and like said on this thread already you just don't know until they are caught out and everyone's "innocent until proven guilty " right? Or, until they are caught, which appears inevitable for most. But then it's too late, lives are wrecked and self-esteem is destroyed and a whole plethora of mental health and other issues ensue ..... but I'm not bitter 😇

All I can see on here is a lot of man haters.

Such a tired line.

I don't hate men Mr I have a Dad, husband, nephew etc who I love and respect.

I do dislike cheating men, abusive men, misogyny etc.

I also dislike women who cheat, women who abuse etc.

There's not one rule for one and not for another, I assure you.

I just don't think you're looking at the issue right.

My ohs work colleage recently paid to have sex with an escort and he is married.

An old aquaintence of mine worked as an escort and she was very busy.
I have no idea how many men or women cheat but if pushed I would say at least 50%.

I have a group of about 15 mates (all in their fifties) and 12+ don't have affairs or use sex workers.

However I do have one mate, who has an OW he keeps, and one mate who treats himself (as he puts it), while away on business. Incidentaly both are company directors.

IMO it seems more prevalent among directors and prominent businessmen and politicians. Along with more cash flow than average there seems an ill-gotten notion of entitlement with these men - and/or power with an "I can have anything I want" attitude.

FFS. How many times do I have to apologise??? Yes, it is a fact the I don't rate sex workers highly, that is my opinion. I do actually feel sorry for them and the way they lead their lives.
I think even less of the perverts that use them and of men, and women who cheat on their partners.
I seems that a lot of you are focusing on one stupid word that I used to describe a small minority of women, to which I will apologise again for.
The main point that I was trying to get across is that, like women, not all men are the same.
Just like I wouldn't call all feminists lesbians, you can't class all men cheating bastards.

My eyes are rolling. Mrc you sound like a very judgemental, narrow minded person. You use the word lesbian as an insult? Lovely.

I was not using the word lesbian as an insult thank you very much.
My best mate is gay and another mates sister is a lesbian.
I am not narrow-minded, nor am I homophobic in any shape or form.

I went on a stag do a few years back, to Amsterdam. I was best man, so arranged some places to go (bars and coffee shops etc), made sure the groom to be enjoyed himself' and got good and drunk but was safe.

A couple of the guys in the group, though, decided to take advantage of the local prostitutes in the brothels by the canal. One guy went back four or five times, spend several hundred euros. Everyone else was slightly repelled by him when word got around. So that was two men from a group of a dozen.

The one who kept going back was in his late 20s, a junior guy on the office totem pole, black, and not the smartest guy in the world. The other was slightly senior, in his early 40s, and a bit creepy. It turned out he'd also disappeared with a man in his 60s, and had hooked up on a 'date elderly men' website.

I'm not sure what conclusion you can draw from that, apart from that it was a minority of men in my group, at least, and most were fairly appalled by it.

creosote, I'm not sure how having a friend's sister being a lesbian is any kimd of comeback.

Also, saying 'how many times do I have to apologise' when you hadn't actually apologised, is a bit odd.

And yes, you were using lesbian as an insult as you compared it with calling all men cheating bastards, which is an insult.

I think if you're trying to prove the point that not all men are sexist idiots, you're really scoring a rather magnificent own goal. Kudos.

an ex friend of mines view of cheating on his wife and mother of his child (6 month emotional affair resulting in meet ups) was that he didn't think he had anything to feel guilty about if nobody, i.e. his wife, didn't know. Really shocked me.

Difficult to put a number on how many men visit sex workers - they're not going to walk around with a big sign saying 'I visit sex workers' or talk openly about it in social circles. I guess the secrecy & naughtiness is part of the appeal, seeing as men are - generally - greater risk takers than women. Men can separate love and sex better than women - again, this is a generalisation and not taking into account individual differences.

I guess many men who visit sex workers keep this part of their lives private.

Looking at adultwork and ukpunting websites suggests there are many sex workers who aren't coerced or substance abusers - depends on an individual's attitude towards sex.

A quick browse of adultwork shows a sex worker can charge as little as £60, which isn't a sum out of the reach of many men. I doubt very few men think about the morals of what they are doing once they are in the room and doing the nasty with (for example) a woman who could easily be half the age of their wife / partner.

I guess the reason men visit sex workers are wide and varied.

Cheers.

Bant. Isn't saying that I apologise an apology? Also, I have said earlier that I'm sorry, guess you must have missed that?
As for being a sexist idiot, please don't make me laugh. I am not sexist, racist, homophobic or a bigot.
Again. To everyone that I have insulted in anyway, shape or form, I am sorry. It was not my intention to insult or offend anyone.

As for being a sexist idiot, please don't make me laugh. I am not sexist, racist, homophobic or a bigot.

Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho
Is that enough of a laugh for you, you homophobic, misogynistic plank?

Oh well, I'm off to suck a dick. FOR MONEY.

Great post Bant, very entertaining

OP, although your original question was clearly rhetorical , you certainly deserve our sympathy

Tried googling a part of your question, and one estimate puts the figure at around 8% of the UK male population having ever visited a prostitute. This was the lowest of the 15 countries surveyed

prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004119

Heehee, MrC, dig up!

No creosote, what happened was :

You said you wouldn't sleep with a slapper
'yeah, but come on, they're slappers aren't they',
'Sex worker, slapper, potato, tomato. Also they're all drug addicts'
The men are bad too
Slightly sniffy 'sorry if I offended anyone' (but not for actually saying it in the first place)
Hey, I apologised. And I called men twats. Why are you all being sexist?
I told you I apologised.
Alright, I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

There is a significant difference between apologising for doing or saying something, and saying you're sorry that people were offended by it. That's a non apology, as other posters pointed out.

So no, you didn't apologise for casually saying that you were too good for 'slappers' and stop protesting that you did.

MrCreosote, there is no need to apologise to any posters who were offended with the use of the word 'slapper' to describe a prostitute etc.

As for those posters saying they hold the utmost respect for sex workers, I'll save my respect for the hardworking mothers holding down 2 jobs or more to feed their children and not involved in the sex trade. Although I don't feel all sex workers are 'bad people' alot of sex workers are funding drug habits. Also best not refer to drug dealers as 'scum' as this would probably offend the same posters who would again go on about respecting dealers as they too are only doing it to earn a living blah blah. That's their mentality.

MrC, if you are still watching this thread, I'd just unwatch it if I was you, as will I.