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Toxic relationship but feel like I can't leave

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Tiggerthecat123 · 24/10/2016 13:16

I feel like I don't know where to start with this

I left my husband for another man just over a year ago. We moved in straight away.

My new partner is very good looking, charming, successful, has a good job and lots of friends.

He was all these things for me however when we moved in, he became very controlling. I was very in love so I tried to do everything he wanted and would make him feel better.
When everything is great we have a very loving relationship - he makes me feel like no other man has ever made me feel- very loved. It's very passionate and I love him like crazy.

Here's the bad bit
His behaviour over the past year has made me into a person I don't recognise and he withdraws his affection when he is upset that I just can't seem to deal with
I also feel insecure, jealous, I don't go out (I feel like I avoid doing things that could arouse suspicion (e.g. Even going to a coffee shop or generally doing something out of the ordinary for me)
I feel like he is emotionally abusive but I can't seem to summon the strength to leave

He systematically finds fault in all my friends to the point where they don't text any more, I don't go out and unless it's play dates with kids, I don't see anyone
He made me block all male friends from social media and texting, and I've ended friendships with all men I knew because he told me to
I've not met my ex husband for 9 months (handovers of children are done via 3rd person or him- my ex is not pleased about this) or so and all communication is done via email
He accuses me of looking at men in the street or restaurants or pubs - this feels soul destroying so at times I put my head down when we're out, just to avoid arguments
He asks me to not accept help carrying the buggy (we have stairs at our train station and I was doing this 4 times a day at one stage)
He doesn't let me have workmen in the house when he is not there
There are constant accusations about other men - even last night I suggested I wanted to start a hobby and go swimming today and this caused an argument because it was a hobby where I was 'basically in my underwear' so I feel like a bit of a prisoner at times
The list can go on but for some reason I feel like I don't have the strength to leave
I just don't.

I had a good job a year ago which I gave up (basically he offered to let me be a STHM which I've always wanted) but I now find myself in a situation where I don't have a job, I'll be on my own with 2 kids
The thing that is stopping me leave apart from having no confidence and a place with no family (the weight thing really contributes) is that I will be absolutely heartbroken if I left. I know it is bad but the loneliness will kill me, also I have huge guilt that my kids are so bonded with him. They adore him and see NONE of this mad behaviour. They love him to bits and I feel like an awful mother disrupting their lives again in this way if I were to leave.

I haven't even mentioned that despite insisting that I have no friendships or conversations with school dads (I blank them) in playgrounds etc etc, my phone is an open book, he is entirely the opposite. He forms inappropriate relationships with lots of women. Basically I think these start out as normal friendships but the women end up falling for him, he does a lot of entertaining for work and inevitably they will make a pass at him or they text a lot, or a drunken evening, he has anxiety so he ends up confessing. 6 weeks ago he ended up staying at another woman's house and I know nothing happened- he was drunk and slept on the sofa, but the incident upset me beyond belief as he lied about going out with her in the first place then it was my call at 6am that woke him up on her sofa. She is very good looking this woman. Then one last thing, I discovered on his phone 3 weeks ago that he had had an emotional affair with another (married) woman. About 3 months of texts - lots of texts a day. Meeting up, drinking and not telling me. I believe they didn't have sex but I spent hours reading them in the middle of the night and it makes me feel sick. I can't forget it. Pictures of her in swimwear, him telling her I didn't listen to him and she was beautiful etc 'I need to see you' etc.

I confronted him and told him I was leaving but he begged me to stay, he cut all contract with her, said it meant nothing and I believed him
NOW the situation feels further toxic because he's now convinced that IM going to cheat on him to 'revenge him' and he's accusing me of that.
I'd never do anything to him in his life. He doesn't know what he's got.
I feel like any sign of a problem he will always run into the arms of another woman.

I think I am craving affection and I feel like there is something wrong with me like I can't cope without him and on my own.

Sorry for the long post, and sorry if it sounds garbled.
It's a very difficult situation to explain. I've never posted before.

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KatharinaRosalie · 24/10/2016 15:59

He is such a classic abuser. Textbook. You really need to leave before it gets even worse.

One thing stood out for me he has anxiety so he ends up confessing.. Ha, oh no he does not confess because of his anxiety. He 'confesses' or rather brags so he can make you feel even shittier and rub it in that he could get it elsewhere.

But read this: he really follows the script. counsellingresource.com/therapy/self-help/loser/

Quich attachment and amazing lovestory? Cutting off support? Breakup panic? Will engcourage to drop your outside hobbies and relationships? Paranoid control? It's all there.

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hellsbellsmelons · 24/10/2016 16:05

I've no doubt you are an intelligent woman.
So you already know the answer to all your questions.
You just need to start believing yourself.
Womens Aid can help you with all of this.
They will put you in touch with local support services as well.
I'm not judging you on having an affair.
But I will judge you a decent mother doing the right thing for her kids if you stay!

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Dontyouknow2016 · 24/10/2016 16:15

That is scarily bad. His behaviour is quite shocking, all of it, his jealousy, his behaviour with other women, all of it.

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tonsiltennis · 24/10/2016 16:35

It doesn't matter how this relationship started, it ending right now is the important bit.

Send the kids to their dads, pack your bags and walk the fuck out. He's scarily awful. You can sort out the details now you're away from this bastard.

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Atenco · 24/10/2016 17:06

This is one of the most extreme cases of isolation I have heard of. OP, the isolation abetts your partner's plan to keep you and the longer you put of leaving, the harder it will be.

You have only been out of touch with your friends for a year at most. You will probably find they will be happy to hear from you again and forgive you this madness.

As someone else suggested, send your children to their father and then leave quietly. Then get thee to a freedom programme as fast as you can.

It will be much better for your children if you can have communication with their father, assuming he is not also a problematic person. My dd and her ex get on very well and makes bringing up a child together so much better for the child, frankly.

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IreallyKNOWiamright · 24/10/2016 21:54

Hi op. I really feel you need to leave. He doesn't love you or appreciate you because of his manipulation. I couldn't believe everything I read. Don't worry about being alone. Phone woman's aid, get an exit strategy. I don't believe for one minute he didn't sleep with those women. Start speaking to the dads again, they will know from your behaviour your relationship isn't right to cut them out. Get rid of this arse hole you deserve so much better.

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tonsiltennis · 24/10/2016 22:11

Awful posts Pasanda.

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pasanda · 24/10/2016 22:12

Why? For telling it like it is?

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tonsiltennis · 24/10/2016 22:13

For being devoid of empathy, blaming, and making out its not even real.

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Tiggerthecat123 · 24/10/2016 22:32

Thank you to every poster for their replies and to the lady who sent the link it was very helpful. They've given me more encouragement than you will know. I'm a complete stranger to you and you've given your time and the kindness of some of you has really touched me.

Pasanda, you don't know my background or anything about me and I guess all I can say is that before I entered into this relationship and found myself in this situation, I had no idea relationships could be like this, but all I can say is that when you're living with a person who has ground you down, brainwashed you, told you you are worthless, damaged goods, questioned your appearance/values, stripped away your support network and job, then slowly you start to believe it and feel pretty bloody lost and confused.

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Bob19702 · 24/10/2016 22:40

Tiger just reading your last post shows you know what he has done to you , use those thoughts to breakaway and get your life back ...I hate men that can do this to ladies they are just bullying cowards 😡

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nicenewdusters · 25/10/2016 00:31

OP. I have been you. With no children. Still took me too long to leave. Nearly destroyed me.

Very few people looking in from the outside will understand why you don't just leave. When you're out you'll look back and think why on earth did I stay? But that question can wait for another day. Today you have to decide whether you take steps to stop another person from destroying you. Or whether you stay and allow him to ruin you and your children's lives.

If you don't leave your mental health will suffer so much you may never regain yourself. Look at how you described yourself just 12 months ago. Look at you now. Head down, struggling with a pushchair 'cause you're "not allowed" to ask for help. Isolated, lonely, anxious.

The man that is doing this to you doesn't love you. He's not capable of love. He's having sex with that other woman on her sofa. He's capable of that. But he's small, weak, pathetic, scared, a coward. To survive he has to destroy somebody else, and he's targeted you.

If you walk away you won't collapse. Your heart won't break in two. You don't ever have to see him again. He'll find somebody else.

And your children will know, on some level, what he's like. What they'll definitely know is that there's something desperately wrong going on with their mum.

I promise you that you can leave him.

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winkywinkola · 25/10/2016 00:45

Is this real???

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KatharinaRosalie · 25/10/2016 09:24

Many of us have been there, OP. Mine was just a short term relationship, but in the matter of weeks he managed to change me from outgoing, confident woman to someone who was walking on eggshells and suddenly didn't seem to get anything right. I understand.

You need to get out.

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Tiggerthecat123 · 25/10/2016 12:49

Nicenewdusters your post made be weep. Thank you

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Tiggerthecat123 · 25/10/2016 13:07

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Atenco · 25/10/2016 13:30

Gosh he is a pathetic little so-and-so.

Do you really have to announce to him beforehand that you are going? He doesn't deserve any consideration

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hellsbellsmelons · 25/10/2016 13:45

You can't discuss it with him.
There is no reasoning with an abuser.
He won't suddenly realise and change his ways.
What ever you say will be turned around somehow and there you are again, doubting yourself.
What did Womens Aid say?
I bet it wasn't 'Ohhh have a nice chat with him'!!!
You need to make a silent exit plan.
Do NOT tell him or let on that you are planning to leave.
Get WA to help you with an exit plan and get away.
I honestly can't believe you are still there.
But I've never been in your situation so I honestly can't imagine what it must be like.
Get out and get out fast!
No discussion!

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IamalsoSpartacus · 25/10/2016 19:19

OP, I have also been where you are.

Please take your daughters and leave. Think about the friends you had before he made you lose touch with them. Is there any of them you could reach out to and tell them what is going on? People have become a lot more understanding of EA, with the Archers' storyline bringing it into the light.

It is nearly 10 years ago for me and I am still living in the shadow of that nightmare. Yes, loneliness is hard, but it is better than being systematicaly broken by the person who is supposed to love you.

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 25/10/2016 20:58

You've got your head on wrong about his relationship with your children. Here's what you wrote:

I have huge guilt that my kids are so bonded with him. They adore him and see NONE of this mad behaviour. They love him to bits and I feel like an awful mother disrupting their lives again in this way if I were to leave.

Here's my tweaked version:
I have huge guilt that my kids are bonding with a controlling arsehole. They adore him and see NONE of this mad behaviour yet. They love him to bits and I feel like an awful mother for letting them become close to someone who will only hurt them in the end. I will disrupt his grooming by leaving.

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tilleuls · 25/10/2016 22:32

You should read 'The Empathy Trap' by Jane McGregor, it will help with coming to terms with how this man has manipulated you. This guy sounds like a true narcissist. The best thing you can possibly do is to cut all contact or he will keep reeling you back in. You can do it FlowersFlowersFlowers

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