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Advice needed - I think this is the end of my marriage..... (long, sorry)

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OrlandoTheMarmaladeCat · 08/02/2007 21:29

I am a regular on here but have changed my name for this thread...

DH and I have been married for nearly 19 years, and have two children aged 10 and 8. DH and I have had a pretty good relationship over the years although I have always loathed his temper. (He has never hit me or the kids so that's not an issue). Until about 3.5 yrs ago, I was DH's "rock" (in his words) - I worked full-time in a very senior role, earned a damn good salary, paid for almost everything, enabling DH to go part-time and become self-employed.
And then it all came tumbling down. I had a nervous breakdown - brought on by too many years of burning the candle at both ends, an extremely stressful job, missing my children, my mother's advanced breast cancer, and various other things. About 5 months later, in the depths of severe depression, I found that I had breast cancer and had a lump removed. In the meantime, DH became very close to one of our close friends, culminating in me finding them kissing. They swore that nothing else had happened and we never really saw her again. I ended up being hospitalised for several weeks (because of the depression), and in the midst of all this, DH rings me up to tell me that I've "changed so much, [he's] not really sure [he] loves me anymore".
So after bl**dy months of my individual therapy, we go to Relate. The message seems to be we need to communicate more, cuddle more and have more sex. We stop going to Relate because DH doesn't like the therapist. We try a private counsellor but DH decides he can't do anymore talking (talking, particularly about his emotions, is not his strong point). We struggle on. My depression comes and goes. My medication gets increased. Sex, and the low frequency of it, remains an issue (ie DH wants more and I'm not attracted to him)
And gradually I become better - I start to feel like I'm human again. I begin to like myself for the first time in years. I start to enjoy things again. I pick up a paintbrush for the first time in years and realise how much I've missed it.
I've realised, and DH agrees (I think) that I cannot work again, certainly not in a pressured job. (I have tried and my depression returned with a vengeance). We have very little money. But I'm happy with that. DH, on the other hand, is having to work much harder than he used to and now has all the bread-winning responsibility on his shoulders. His "rock" is now a little bit fragile, and not quite the all-conquering superwoman he married.
The thing is (and if you've got this far, I congratulate you) I don't think I love him anymore. I mean, what is love anyway? He can barely say anything kind towards me, can barely do anything for me without me asking for it, he doesn't much like talking and often just says he's tired and goes to bed early. And yet when I want to go to bed early, he complains about us living like an old married couple. I don't 'fancy' him. I enjoy sex when it happens with him, but I'm happy to go without. I look at him and wonder why I'm still with him.
Except I know the answer (or I think I know). I don't want to upset the kids. I love our house (and we'd have to sell it if we split). I keep thinking, we'll get through this, we'll muddle on and somehow it'll be alright, we've got through so much already. But it's just the same old, same old. I want someone who can put strong, loving and dependable arms around me, who can support me (yes, both emotionally AND financially), who will understand depression or at least believe that it's not my fault I've had depression.
I've started standing up for myself much more now, and I've come to see that his moods bring me down. I don't want to be down. I want to feel happy. But he accuses me of wanting to live in la-la land, and that I'm just naive. I'm well, I'm thriving but we just seem to be growing apart.
Any ideas?

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OrlandoTheMarmaladeCat · 18/02/2007 15:17

Serenity - you can preach all you want You've got some really sensible advice for which I am hugely grateful.

I really don't know what the answer is. I guess I'll try and take things one day at a time and not look too far ahead. Who knows, maybe DH really will go for therapy and it will help him, enabling us to stay together. I just hope that that would mean my love for him would return and my desire for him would be rekindled. But I guess there are no guarantees!

Thank you again.

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domestictechnician · 18/02/2007 21:14

the grass really isn't greener on the other side- just different grass! It's incredible how quickly after a seperation, when your life seems inconceivably tricky you remember all the great things about your ex. It is a real fucker, sometimes it is just enough to continue your life with the kids under the same roof as him but containing yourself in a bubble. I mean just get on with the stuff you get on with, don't ask him for any help with anything, make plans and carry them out just you and the kids- science museum, park whatever, try and enjoy your life with them as much as possible and perhaps he may see what he is potentially missing and realise what is required to make the situation work- even if he doesn't, you get to enjoy your job as a mum without expecting anything from him which tends to end in dissapointment. Most importantly get out of the house in the evening on your own- without him, talk to other grown-ups without being interrupted by little peoples needs,i cannot stress enough how a change of scene puts an entirely new perspective on everything- that could be anything just make yourself busy in the evenings (if he's around to babysit) swimming, cinema a simple change of focus can help if you're drifting apart, when you feel confident and fulfilled nothing can stop you.

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