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Is he 'just not that into me' or relaxed and forgetful?

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Midlandia · 08/10/2016 10:12

I have been seeing a lovely man I met through work for about 5 months now. He's very kind hearted and in many ways very thoughtful and generous. However, we've had a few aborted attempts at going away together for the weekend. Recently I suggested a city break (driving distance), but mid week as it fit with my son being away with his dad for October break and also my man works very hard and I thought it would be good for him to take a couple of days off.

When I suggested it he agreed, but didn't seem that keen. It then transpired that a meeting went in his diary that he had to attend (he is very senior at our work), putting the kybosh on us going away. He did seem sorry to have spoiled our plans and asked if we could reschedule. I suggested an alternative date and he agreed, saying he would book the hotel. I offered to do it, but he said he would take care of it. I asked if he would do it soon as our planned dates are coming up soon and he still hasn't done it!

He knows that I'm anxious about it, he knows that I want to get it sorted, but he keeps saying he'll take care of it, but it's still not done! I now feel like I'm badgering him, which makes me feel like crap. He tells me all the time he loves me and in other small ways shows he cares, but should going away together be this difficult? Am I being a high maintenance harpy or does this mean that he's just not that bothered about me?

I'd happily book the thing myself, but it's not the booking that's this issue. It's more an indication of what he really feels for me, which is he's not all that bothered. I find I'm obsessively thinking about when it's going to be booked and what happens if he doesn't book it and he let's me down again. Now that I write it down, I feel like I'm coming across as a nut! Do I just need a wet fish slap? (Sorry for the length if you've made it this far!)

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ViolettaValery · 08/10/2016 12:52

He's being a bit crap not expressing it, but tbh I wonder if it's the midweek thing. People have different levels of attachment to their work, and you say he is senior - that might mean going away midweek just means a massive workload when he gets back. I am in this position, nobody "picks up" my work while I'm away, it just doesn't get done. Unless going away at the weekend is completely impossible, I suggest it could be more about the work than not being bothered about going away with you.

He should still say so though! Ultimately we could all invent different reasonable accounts of his behaviour, he's the only one who knows why he is backsliding a bit on this.

ViolettaValery · 08/10/2016 12:54

Hm, sorry just noticed you've also had aborted attempts at going away for the weekend...

UnGoogleable · 08/10/2016 13:03

Do your work colleagues know that you're together? Could he be a bit reluctant to take time off during work at the same time as you because he doesn't want everyone to notice?

Midlandia · 08/10/2016 13:12

I should say that my revised suggestion for going away is a weekend (next weekend in fact) and he seemed ok with that.

He's been texting this morning about various things, still no sign he has even thought about booking and we're supposed to be going next Friday 🙁

Ungoogleable - everyone at work knows we're together and he seems fine about that.

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lizzieoak · 08/10/2016 13:13

Sorry if I'm being a bit paranoid (most likely), but you're absolutely sure he's as single as he says? That he's free to get away, I mean?

Midlandia · 08/10/2016 13:16

lizzieoak - he's definitely single.

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TurnipCake · 08/10/2016 13:16

A man that's into you will go ahead and book. You certainly wouldn't be second guessing yourself, let alone putting a thread up about it.

I've met a lot of women who question their sanity in 'throwing crumbs' relationships like this (myself included). It's not their mental state that's the problem

lizzieoak · 08/10/2016 13:24

Whew!

Madinche1sea · 08/10/2016 13:29

Hi OP - I would just act a bit aloof from here and let him take the initiative - not just on the weekend away, but in general. Let him show you what he is (or isn't). If he steps up, then great, if not, it's better to find out now. Be honest with yourself about what you're looking for and don't compromise. There's nothing worse than ending up with s man that you have to drag through life.

Good luck and hopefully he'll plan something lovely, but just leave it to him from here.

UnGoogleable · 08/10/2016 13:30

everyone at work knows we're together and he seems fine about that

Good, sorry if it seemed like I was also being a bit cynical - seen too many threads on here go the wrong way.

He said he'd book it, then you just have to step back and allow him to do it in his own time.

I used to get really wound up with DH when we were first dating, because he didn't text all day and he'd apologize and say he was busy. I really couldn't get my head around it - I thought everyone could find time if they really needed to. But then I learned just how busy he does get and of course he can't be tied to his phone all day. His job is very different to mine and it took a while to click.

So perhaps your man is just busy, he fully intends to book something, and will get to it when he can. Don't nag him, it won't achieve anything other than making you seem needy and pressuring him into it. That way, you'll never learn whether he would have done it by himself or not.

hermione2016 · 08/10/2016 13:39

Is the only issue that he won't go away when the you? It might not be a big deal at him.

On the other hand I firmly believe in instinct and something is telling you it isn't right.He could be someone who keeps emotional distance despite being outwardly friendly.

Was he previously married? If so why did it end?

Midlandia · 08/10/2016 13:41

Thank you all for your thoughtful kind responses.

Consensus seems to be to take a step back and let things unfold. Things will be resolved one way or another in the next week.

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Cabrinha · 08/10/2016 13:44

You are the one with the full picture.
But on this issue... I would feel badgered.
My boyfriend is the type to want to book a hotel two seconds after we decide to go anyway. Me... Well, sometimes I'm like that. Other times I want to wait for laterooms/lastminute for a bargain - especially if it's a localism city so there's no risk in waiting. Other times I want to spend lots of time finding somewhere perfect and quirky - and am having to wait until I have time to Google properly. Othertimes, I am so bloody tired that even though I have time and I really want to go, the actual booking feels like yet another chore - so I piss about on MN when I could be sorting it! Grin
In all those examples, I love my boyfriend and want to go.
And him badgering me would annoy me.

If he now pulls out, then yes - he's not into you. But if he's said he'll sort it and he does, then I don't see a problem - he's just not bothered about making the actual booking quickly. It's a hotel room - it takes 10 seconds online. Which is why it's both frustrating to leave it to the last minute, but also understandable!

Midlandia · 08/10/2016 13:47

hermione2016 - you have come very close to the bone there. He has never been married, no children. He had a very long term 'buddy' type relationship that seemed to suit his reserved emotionally distant personality. I couldn't be more different - passionate, outgoing, emotionally open.

He wants to try to be more open, but I suspect I hope more than believe he can change.

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Midlandia · 08/10/2016 13:52

Cabrinha - loved your final paragraph. That's exactly what I was wrestling with!
Me (through gritted teeth): "it'll just take two minutes to book"
Him (whistling casually): "Oh, it'll just take two minutes to book"
The frustration is real 😀

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Cabrinha · 08/10/2016 14:52

Grin you couldn't date me! (even though I'm lovely of course!)

Out of interest, as you say senior at work, has he travelled for work a lot?

I travel for work all the time. I have definitely become very blasé about hotel booking as a result.

HandyWoman · 08/10/2016 15:07

'He wants to try to be more open'

Ooh gawd. People tend not to change, fundamentally..

I think breathing space is the perfect tonic for this budding relationship.

He just may not be the right man for you, OP.

Having said this, my current bf started out a bit like this, but 4 months in he seemed to let himself believe that our relationship had potential, and since then we have felt totally on the same page.

Breathing space will allow him to get on board in the same way as you, plus will let you see if this hotel booking materialises. I hope it does, OP. And I hope you have a brilliant time.

Midlandia · 08/10/2016 15:48

Cabrinha - yes, he travels a LOT for work and can be quite last minute about these things, but that just affects him. This trip affects me too - I've had to request holidays and then cancel them (when were originally going midweek). Now, there's the lack of certainty of whether next weekend is going to happen or not.

I really wish I could be more laid back, life would be a lot easier!

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ViolettaValery · 08/10/2016 16:26

Meh, I wouldn't be too quick to make this one a fault of yours. He may not be an inattentive arse, he could just have a different style about these things. But equally your style is fine!

whimsical1975 · 08/10/2016 16:47

Ummmm, right, so he holds a very senior position at work and you're wanting to book a mid-week break? I'd bet anything that he has a lot of work on his plate and mid-week puts extra pressure on him. He may not have wanted to disappoint you as you've only been seeing each other 5 months so still very new!! Why can't you just talk to him? I certainly wouldn't leave him over this!!!! Confused

Cabrinha · 08/10/2016 23:11

It's interesting that you see it as a lack of certainty about it happening next weekend, whereas I see that he just hasn't booked it yet, but it's definitely happening. (and I hope I'm proved right!)

Are there other things about this relationship that make you feel insecure? Was it only that one midweek that he wanted to cancel and re-arrange? TBH, whilst relationships are important, work in senior positions does sometimes come first - so that cancellation would bother me beyond disappointment.

blueshoes · 08/10/2016 23:50

If he is very senior at work and not that bothered about things that are important to you, that could be the pattern of behaviour you can expect for the rest of the relationship.

I work with men who travel a lot for work and are wedded to their phones. Their work comes first. Personal calls (which they take in my presence) are around where they are and can they be somewhere at some point in time (usually no or I don't know), plans cancelled at the last minute.

Not sure if he is like this but he could consciously or subconsciously setting the stage for you to be understand that you are second fiddle.

Midlandia · 09/10/2016 00:09

blueshoes - very interesting perspective. I have wondered if it's more along the lines of him not deliberately playing games or stringing me along or trying to hurt me and more that it's circumstantial. He will always be wedded to his work, that's never going to change. I suppose I need to ask myself if I'm happy to be lower down in his list of priorities, with work taking precedence most of the time.

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Offred · 09/10/2016 00:29

What blueshoes said is essentially getting at the point I intended to make. Who actually cares why his behaviour is making you react by feeling insecure and unhappy with yourself - he may be a knob, he may not but one thing is certainly true; the way he handles things is making you feel bad about yourself (major red flag) and not happy being with him (reason to leave).

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 09/10/2016 01:41

Quite popular at work, full work agenda, travels a lot ...
He may just be exhausted and needs time off to recharge his batteries: Could it be that he is actually an introvert who has to perform as a learned extrovert? He may get his fill of travel from work obligations and not be that thrilled for more (I agree with pps that the midweek plan is bad timing regarding work load).

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