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Semi-detached husband

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MabelAllan · 05/10/2016 08:35

Hi all - I need some advice and a fresh perspective. I feel really stuck right now, and don't know either how to proceed, or even whether my anger and resentment is justified, and whether I should just get over myself.

My DH and I have been together for 8 years; we have 3 small children, aged 4, 2 and 2. He's always been a bit slapdash in the way he goes about domestic responsibilities, but over the last 14 months he's just disappeared into the clouds and is driving me up the wall.

We moved house a year ago, from a place and house that I adored, to somewhere 4 hours north where I don't know anyone, to be closer to his work and his family. I gave up my job to facilitate the move (his job is more secure) and went freelance. Despite the fact that the move was entirely in his interest, since it's been on the cards, he's just shrugged off more and more responsibility. He did literally nothing to assist with the legal or practical aspects of the move, apart from one contribution, which was to send a spare set of our house keys to some friends that were house-sitting for us - he sent the wrong keys. Once we moved, we had to do 6 months of building and renovating work, and again, he did literally nothing in terms of organising it, even answering builders' questions with 'I have no idea what's going on, tbh!'; and any decorating work he did, he fucked up so badly that I had to redo it.

In our previous existence, we used to split responsibility for paying bills etc, but here I've ended up doing all of them and managing all our finances. I feel like his housekeeper, to be honest. But he DOES do 50% of the childcare, 50% of the laundry, cooks more than I do, and does just a little less than 50% of the cleaning. It's the 'domestic management' that he doesn't do: if I delegate a job to him, he'll do it eventually, but he won't realise for himself what needs doing (ie. if another parent gives him a birthday party invitation for our eldest, it won't occur to him that she'll need to bring a present. I'll need to ask him to get something, or buy it myself). It's so tiring having to keep on top of everything: I constantly have a mental 'to do' list setting off alarms in my head.

I've talked to him twice about this, telling him that I feel exploited; and he's promised to change. But he's made no changes at all. We have an au pair coming out to us next week, and again, he's done nothing in terms of thinking about what preparations need to be made; whereas I've spent every evening for the last 3 weeks getting her room ready; contacting language schools; buying a bike for her etc etc.

What actually hurts me more, is that he seems to have stopped paying any attention to me or my life, along with detaching from how the family runs. I manage the social side of our life, as well as its practical side - I've been basically the only one to make new friends here, to organise playdates for the children, and to organise nights out for me and DH. I've said to him that I want him to take more responsibility for our relationship - so he organised a night out, but forgot it was the weekend that his sister was flying over (she lives abroad) to see him, so had to cancel it, and he hasn't done anything since. He literally has not organised a single date night, off his own back, since 2010. He doesn't believe in romance, so never makes any gestures or anything; and doesn't organise anything for our anniversary, my birthday etc. And last week, he forgot I had a job interview! I had to go away for 2 days for the interview, and he texted me saying 'where are you?!' Since I've been back, I've told him how hurt I was, and his response has been to sulk, not talk to me, and sleep in a different bed for 3 nights. He didn't even ask me how it went or whether I got it!

I honestly don't know what to do. I've talked to him three times now about this, and last time made it quite clear that it was his last chance. But now what? He hasn't changed; he's got worse. I don't have any income currently, since we've moved, so we're reliant on his income - which makes me wonder whether I'm being unfair. After all, he does contribute far more money to the family than I do currently (although this will change in January), he does 50% of childcare etc (which is more than a lot of men). I'm really unhappy and all I want to do is go back to our old house & city.

OP posts:
springydaffs · 07/10/2016 12:46

Oh no. Absolutely no to him 'taking some persuading'. He has to get what is at stake and you both have to be digging deep to get these difficulties resolved. It's the priority.

Have you told him you have lined up finances? Does he know one of your feet is already out the door? You would not be being threatening to lay it all out. It's just the reality.

Marriage courses are usually run through churches but most are not 'christian' ie pushing the christian faith; just part of christian ministry to address universal relational difficulties that can cause huge distress if not addressed.

springydaffs · 07/10/2016 12:47

IF you intend to follow through, that is. You can't be threatening if you haven't lined up options.

nagsandovalballs · 07/10/2016 12:55

I'm sorry but I don't believe in marriage etc for political/social reasons but that doesn't mean I'm not kind, affectionate and thoughtful towards my dp? He gets back rubs, lovely birthday things, etc etc.

Your dh is using politics to check out. I'm really sorry, it sounds like he just wants a housekeeper as you say. He is the kind of politico I can't stand - rails against oppression and exploitation whilst enacting both practices in his own family and with his own wife.

springydaffs · 07/10/2016 13:44

Good post, nags

MabelAllan · 07/10/2016 14:11

Yes, I do intend to follow through - and he does know that. But I also think that, if I've committed to participating in trying to improve things, then I need to invest in that with an open mind and give him (and me, and us) a chance. It's useful for me to have a deadline in mind (and a plan), and a deadline that is far enough in the distance (ie. in 9-10 months) for us to work on things in a way that either shows sustainable long-term change (ie. not just a short flurry of effort), or doesn't.

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SauvignonPlonker · 07/10/2016 20:00

He sounds highly passive-aggressive & not emotionally invested in your marriage; it's almost like he checked out a long time ago & has just gone along with the path of least resistance to get you off his case (grudgingly agreeing to get married, attend counselling).

Personally, I'd get some counselling on your own to help YOU decide if you want to invest any more in this marriage.

Mrstumbletap · 08/10/2016 14:25

Well done OP, you have had the long hard chat and set yourself a timeframe of next summer, that is a workable amount of time to actually see a difference. Don't be afraid if things go well for a few weeks to call him up on something if he becomes a bit lazy, forgetful etc. Keep reminding him everytime that when he does it makes you feel isolated or unloved.

I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic, so I think the tea and the "I love you" note is a good sign that after you saying everything and saying it's make or break that he does want to work on things. If it were me I would leave him an I love you note in a week or so in his car for example to just keep up the momentum.

Also on a practical note my DH he does pretty much all the house admin, and I do all the child admin, could you say child admin is his stuff as you say is really good with the kids? So dentist appointments, new shoes, homework etc?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/10/2016 14:34

But I also think that, if I've committed to participating in trying to improve things, then I need to invest in that with an open mind and give him (and me, and us) a chance.

That also sounds like the sunken costs fallacy and that also causes people to keep on making poor relationship decisions. How many chances have you already given him before now?.

I personally think you are setting yourself up for potentially another year of misery because he has not and will not change.

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